Colonization for resources is Evil

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Nothing wrong with that. We should do it if it helps our human race.

 

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I don’t know much about the “coup of Mosaddegh.”

For those of you interested you can just look up wikipedia.
but the pertinent points i wish to point out from an Iranian perspective:
AIOC (anglo-Iranian-oil-company) had very harsh terms when Iranians got <10% of profits. It was also very typical British in that era where at the company they had signs on water fountains which says “not for Iranians”. [this reminds me of signs of clubs in China/HK in those days where it reads “Chinese and dogs not allowed inside”]
Mossadegh became popular and insitituted many progressive reforms. the big thing he did was nationalising the AIOC which earn the praise of many Iranians. The British retaliated by boycotting Iran’s oil. The economy became very bad for Iran and as opposition arises because of this Mossadegh became more hard-handed in crushing dissenters. He also tried to gain more power from the monarch, the Shah. The British had enough and wanted to remove him. USA was reluctant to join in on this at first but when Eisenhower became president, he ordered the CIA to overthrow Mossadegh (with the British) Rossevelt (I think this is President Roosevelt’s grandson) helped orchestrated this by paying people to protest on the streets etc.
Anyway Mossadegh was removed in a coup and was placed in house arrest until he died. USA supported the Shah and the Shah obviously in turn gave a good oil deal to the west. The Shah also became more and more brutal and less democratic and repressive but the USA kept supporting him. This then culminates in the Iranian Revolution. It was only later revealed that the CIA was involved in the coup which was i think initially denied by the US at the time.

I mean if you were an Iranian, that’s pretty bad, isn’t it? (the way the USA acted)

And these are not only on the minds of the Iranians, the rest of the world also knows of USA’s tactics in the past and it would be hard to convince people that the USA doesn’t do this anymore?

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just an example:
Hong Kong’s pro-democracy movement.

Hong Kong is enjoying unprecedented democracy in its entire history, a fact that no one can dispute. yet China is portrayed as being “tightening the grip” on democracy in HK.
Key radical pro-democracy leaders like Joshua Wong, are probably receiving money from USA’s NED. and then he is being nominated for Nobel’s Peace prize! by Americans!
Cardinal Zen received US$300,000 from a Apple Daily’s Lai whose aide had ties to the CIA. He didn’t declare this donation to the Church. He had to admit it when it was exposed. He supported and urged on the Occupy Central movement. Wikileaks also confirm a lot of previous suspicions about US meddling in Hong Kong’s politics.
I could go on and on.
Any Chinese who studies a bit of history of how USA deals with foreign countries like Iran can see through what is going on. Stories are just repeating itself, albeit in different circumstances, but the principle is the same. I must congratulate the USA for being quite successful in the case of HK, it has created unprecedented polarity in society with mob-rule culture from the so called “pro-democracy” camp where the end justify any means (including using anti-democratic tactics to acheive “democracy” - how does that make sense?)

To be honest though i don’t blame the USA. it has to protect its own interests. But just don’t think the rest of the world is stupid and don’t know what’s going on. The rest of the world is just acquiescing simply because it is still a superpower. I can’t even begin to imagine how the rest of the world will get its revenge if USA loses its superpower status. I don’t think that’s anytime soon though. all this talk of China rising to power is overrated. Just looking at the military capabilities. No country is even close to USA’s power. and with this, yes, it is more peaceful – but on USA’s terms.

 

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I think we are a mixed bag, we’ve been altruistic in some cases and completely selfish in others. Outside of humanitarian responses, I’d check both hands and under the car of any ‘gifts’ from the American Govt.

NED Activities in China

The National Endowment for Democracy (NED) was established as a conduit to disperse US Government funds for ‘promoting democracy’, allocated by Congress to its four core grantees. This blog contains details of the funds which have been dispersed by the NED for programs in China since 1994.

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With all these large sums of money USA spends (and you’re paying for it), does the USA really wants the world to believe it is just a big charity exporting lovely democracy? Afterall it’s not as if Hong Kong is a third world place. In any rate, cases like Mosaddegh shows democracy itself has got nothing to do with it.

Youth dissatisfaction - How the NDI indoctrinated and brainwashed Hong Kong’s youth

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In Chinese culture, political activism was never something that interests the Chinese. that’s why the British ruled HK without too many major issues. Chinese people are on the whole very compliant.
Not the Hong Kong youth of these days. Completely different mindset, so different, no respect. Again it looks like USA has been very successful in “brainwashing” the youths of Hong Kong.

 

[Theo520]

With all these large sums of money USA spends (and you’re paying for it), does the USA really wants the world to believe it is just a big charity exporting lovely democracy? Afterall it’s not as if Hong Kong is a third world place. In any rate, cases like Mosaddegh shows democracy itself has got nothing to do with it.

Trump proposed major cuts to the Dept of State money you refer to, and Democrats are livid.
The problem with these programs is they are measured more on spending their budgets rather than achieving real results.

 

[Churchman25]

Heres what I think. this has to do with colonialism and pretty much every other thing and that thing is power. Power is that thing that corrupts peoples minds, and
is what led to europeans colonizing african kingdoms. Its power and greed.