Come and know the Lord...Seriously???

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So I was sitting in my recliner and watching a spring baseball game when there was a knock. I am usually very charitable toward other faiths when they knock on my door. I always answer with a smile. I get the questions like…“Are you saved…Yes…Do you go to church…Yes” A knew question was asked and when I answered “Yes” I got an odd look and then an odd reply. Here goes…

Protestant Pastor- Good afternoon. I am sharing the Lord with people today and I am wondering if you know the Lord Jesus Christ?

Me- Yes, very much so! I see him every Sunday at Mass and through His Body and Blood, my soul is nourished. (I wanted to give a simple answer to keep the confusion down)

PP- :confused: You see him?

Me- Yes in the Holy Eucharist sir

PP- I will pray that you come to know the Lord in a personal way rather than a pagan idol way (walks away)

???

Is that how Evangelical Fundamentalist really think? I believe he was Baptist in the General Baptist Conference. Do they believe we cannot, as Catholics, form a personal relationship with Christ?
 
I’ve never had such an encounter. Aren’t there Bible verses for that sort of thing?
 
Some do see it that way, yes. One of my best friends honestly thought all of that when we first met - thought that if Catholics had any sort of relationship with God it was in spite of Catholicism and all of that. It took about four years of arguing to convince him that Catholicism wasn’t inherently idolatrous - now he just thinks it’s wrong. (But it’s a step)

You’d be amazed at the misconceptions many people have about Catholicism. You might find it interesting though, if you run into a similar situation later, that much of the early opposition to the doctrine of the real presence was from pagans. They didn’t like it all, and accused Christians of being cannibals.
 
Well, when Jesus told his followers that “Unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood, you shall not have eternal life”, a bunch of them thought he was crazy and walked away.

So…means you’re in good company. 👍
 
That is pretty much what happened, isn’t it?
PP- I will pray that you come to know the Lord in a personal way rather than a pagan idol way **(walks away)
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So a real-life “hit-and-run”. Wow.
 
TarkanAttila said:
I’ve never had such an encounter. Aren’t there Bible verses for that sort of thing?
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YES! Next time read him this verse, John 6:53, Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.” Ask them, Can you be “saved” if you have not life within you? No! sounds like they need the Catholic Church to me. 🙂
 
And even His disciples didn’t “get” it at first:

John 6:60 When many of his disciples heard it, they said, “This is a hard saying; who can listen to it?”
 
Stilldreamn said:
And even His disciples didn’t “get” it at first:

John 6:60 When many of his disciples heard it, they said, “This is a hard saying; who can listen to it?”
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And they even walked away…

John 6:66
From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.
 
Stilldreamn said:
And even His disciples didn’t “get” it at first:

John 6:60 When many of his disciples heard it, they said, “This is a hard saying; who can listen to it?”
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peace2u2 said:
And they even walked away…

John 6:66
From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.
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Regina_Love said:
YES! Next time read him this verse, John 6:53, Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.” Ask them, Can you be “saved” if you have not life within you? No! sounds like they need the Catholic Church to me. 🙂
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👍
 
aidanbradypop said:
So I was sitting in my recliner and watching a spring baseball game when there was a knock. I am usually very charitable toward other faiths when they knock on my door. I always answer with a smile. I get the questions like…“Are you saved…Yes…Do you go to church…Yes” A knew question was asked and when I answered “Yes” I got an odd look and then an odd reply. Here goes…

Protestant Pastor- Good afternoon. I am sharing the Lord with people today and I am wondering if you know the Lord Jesus Christ?

Me- Yes, very much so! I see him every Sunday at Mass and through His Body and Blood, my soul is nourished. (I wanted to give a simple answer to keep the confusion down)

PP- :confused: You see him?

Me- Yes in the Holy Eucharist sir

PP- I will pray that you come to know the Lord in a personal way rather than a pagan idol way (walks away)

???

Is that how Evangelical Fundamentalist really think? I believe he was Baptist in the General Baptist Conference. Do they believe we cannot, as Catholics, form a personal relationship with Christ?
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My first final response would have been:

Where does Jesus teach a “personal” relationship with Him? I do not buy into the whole “personal” relationship position. Seems rather selfish.
 
Think about exactly what you said:

“I see [Christ] every Sunday at Mass and through His Body and Blood”

From his perspective it sounds like you’re literally worshiping a cracker and wine. I’m not going to debate the Eucharist, but the idea that you can “experience” Christ through physical objects (the host, relics, anything) is foreign to many Protestants.

That’s why he mentioned “personal”. Many Protestants see the “injection” (for lack of a better word) of physical objects into the communication between Christ and believers as “wrong”. Conceptually, it’s very similar to Protestant objections to intercession of the saints or clergy absolving people of sin. To the Protestant, these all represent barriers to direct communication with Christ.
 
rtechie said:
Think about exactly what you said:

“I see [Christ] every Sunday at Mass and through His Body and Blood”

From his perspective it sounds like you’re literally worshiping a cracker and wine. I’m not going to debate the Eucharist, but the idea that you can “experience” Christ through physical objects (the host, relics, anything) is foreign to many Protestants.

That’s why he mentioned “personal”. Many Protestants see the “injection” (for lack of a better word) of physical objects into the communication between Christ and believers as “wrong”. Conceptually, it’s very similar to Protestant objections to intercession of the saints or clergy absolving people of sin. To the Protestant, these all represent barriers to direct communication with Christ.
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And the ide one can “experience” God via “personal” relationship is a bit odd too. They give the impression God is mine and mine alone since it is “personal”
 
rtechie said:
Think about exactly what you said:

“I see [Christ] every Sunday at Mass and through His Body and Blood”

From his perspective it sounds like you’re literally worshiping a cracker and wine. I’m not going to debate the Eucharist, but the idea that you can “experience” Christ through physical objects (the host, relics, anything) is foreign to many Protestants.

That’s why he mentioned “personal”. Many Protestants see the “injection” (for lack of a better word) of physical objects into the communication between Christ and believers as “wrong”. Conceptually, it’s very similar to Protestant objections to intercession of the saints or clergy absolving people of sin. To the Protestant, these all represent barriers to direct communication with Christ.
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I do not see them as barriers nor did I when I was a Protestant. I see them as a means that I can draw closer to Christ. 😉
 
rtechie said:
Think about exactly what you said:

“I see [Christ] every Sunday at Mass and through His Body and Blood”
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It’s also known as The Real Presence of Christ. To which we believe :signofcross:

We take Jesus at His Word. However, for some Protestants it is strange to take Jesus at His Word but not when it comes to see it as a personal relationship… How much more personal can you get? It just baffles me…

Either you fully believe in Him or you don’t. There is no middle ground.
 
In this situation I would’ve been *sorely *tempted to shout after him: “I pray to the Blessed Virgin too! Quick! Run! It might be catching!!” 😃
 
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