Comment by Hizbollah

[Cluny]

The cult of death, Islam, is marching forward under its battle cry: “We love death, the infidels love life,” says Hassan Nasrullah, leader of Lebanon Hizbollah. <<

This quote was taken from Brigette Gabriel’s American Congress for Truth site.

Of course, they love death. That’s because they hate God.

As God said through the mouth of the Prophet Solomon:

Proverbs 8:36
But whoever fails to find me harms himself; all who hate me love death."

What do you think?

 

[inJESUS]

We don;t call them a culture of death for no reason.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace

…Of course, they love death. That’s because they hate God.

We all came from God & surely will be back to Him. We must give more importance on
hereafter than the temporary earthy life.

To kill any innocent , commit suicide --these are considered as sins in Islalm . But to fight
in the path of God , it does not mean one hates God . One must not be afraid to fight to establish justice .

And what is wrong with you that you fight not in the Cause of Allah, and for those weak, illtreated and oppressed among men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Rescue us from this town whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from You one who will protect, and raise for us from You one who will help."
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #75)

 

[Among_Strangers]

What do I think?

I am not a proponent of Islam.

I’d like to see this quote in context. “Give me liberty or give me death,” sounds pretty extreme but Americans find Patrick Henry’s words patriotic and not a sound bit for the “Culture of Death” rearing its ugly head in 1775.

St. Paul tells us that, “For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain,” (Phil 1:21) was St. Paul part of the culture of death?

Is Hezbollah the standard for followers of Islam? I don’t know maybe it is, maybe not. Maybe the followers of Islam are more independent than that. Maybe each one holds to his own accountability outside of any sort of communal relationship to God. Maybe I don’t know.

Is Islam part of this Culture of Death? I guess it depends on who you ask and how you make up your own mind about it.

So, I think this quote it plucked out of context and I’d like to see the whole thing. And I think that referring to a whole faith group as a “cult of death” is pretty risky.

 

[nohamaria]

In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful
.

To kill any innocent , commit suicide --these are considered as sins in Islalm . But to fight
in the path of God , it does not mean one hates God . One must not be afraid to fight to establish justice .
And what is wrong with you that you fight not in the Cause of Allah, and for those weak, illtreated and oppressed among men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Rescue us from this town whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from You one who will protect, and raise for us from You one who will help."
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #75)

May God Have Mercy on us all.

Nohamaria

 

[imasinner]

nohamaria:
May God Have Mercy on us all.

Nohamaria

Second that

 

[josie_L]

In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

Salaam/peace

We all came from God & surely will be back to Him. We must give more importance on
hereafter than the temporary earthy life.

To kill any innocent , commit suicide --these are considered as sins in Islalm . But to fight
in the path of God , it does not mean one hates God . One must not be afraid to fight to establish justice .

And what is wrong with you that you fight not in the Cause of Allah, and for those weak, illtreated and oppressed among men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Rescue us from this town whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from You one who will protect, and raise for us from You one who will help."
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #75)

And who are the oppressors MuslimWoman?

 

[nohamaria]

The cult of death, Islam, is marching forward under its battle cry: “We love death, the infidels love life,” says Hassan Nasrullah, leader of Lebanon Hizbollah. <<

What do you think?

God has an angel for death and he is doing his job
quite well and in time as Gods Intention.
God doesn’t need Hassan Nesrallah help for killing people
and send them to him.
Loving death seems to me worshipping The Angel Of Death
not God. This preaching of Hassan Nesrallah is against
Islam itself and God who is life giving.

May God Have Mercy on them

That is my humble opinion.

Nohamaria ( OFS member)

 

[Cluny]

**To kill any innocent , commit suicide --these are considered as sins in Islalm . But to fight
in the path of God , it does not mean one hates God . One must not be afraid to fight to establish justice .
**

According to this member of Hisbollah, they love death.

The corollary, if the wise prophet Solomon is to be believed, is that they hate God.

But what do you expect from a religion founded by a pedophile?

 

[chrisse]

What do I think?

I am not a proponent of Islam.

I’d like to see this quote in context. “Give me liberty or give me death,” sounds pretty extreme but Americans find Patrick Henry’s words patriotic and not a sound bit for the “Culture of Death” rearing its ugly head in 1775.

St. Paul tells us that, “For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain,” (Phil 1:21) was St. Paul part of the culture of death?

Is Hezbollah the standard for followers of Islam? I don’t know maybe it is, maybe not. Maybe the followers of Islam are more independent than that. Maybe each one holds to his own accountability outside of any sort of communal relationship to God. Maybe I don’t know.

Is Islam part of this Culture of Death? I guess it depends on who you ask and how you make up your own mind about it.

So, I think this quote it plucked out of context and I’d like to see the whole thing. And I think that referring to a whole faith group as a “cult of death” is pretty risky.

I think you need to become more aware of what is going on in the world. I subscribe to MEMRI TV, and recommend others to do so, for what is being propagated in the ME. It is clear why there will be no peace.

We have from Hamas and Al Azhar scholars in Egypt, amongst other things, direct threats to the Vatican (please note mohammet has already, apparently, sent a letter to Rome 1400 years ago).

We have a former Hezb’Allah member admitting, amongst other things, of going to Damascus to “prostitutes” where he entered into muta (pleasure) marriage contracts with 9 year old girls.

We have HAMAS in fine form here and here.

And lastly, but certainly not the last of the millions of examples, we have the very treatment non-muslims can expect to receive from muslims, being taught explicity as here, or implicitly in mosques in the WEST as well as in the Islamic countries.

These are NOT exceptions. And don’t get confused with the animosity between Sunni and Shia. They join together and fight each other inter-changeably.

 

[chrisse]

nohamaria:
May God Have Mercy on us all.

Nohamaria
Amen

 

[R_not]

We all came from God & surely will be back to Him. We must give more importance on
hereafter than the temporary earthy life.

To kill any innocent , commit suicide --these are considered as sins in Islalm . But to fight
in the path of God , it does not mean one hates God . One must not be afraid to fight to establish justice .

And what is wrong with you that you fight not in the Cause of Allah, and for those weak, illtreated and oppressed among men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Rescue us from this town whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from You one who will protect, and raise for us from You one who will help."

Be more clear in your post.

Define these terms:

• innocent
• suicide
• oppressed

Because what you are saying goes directly against what muslims do after another muslim blows themself up, or die in other ways, while killing women and children - they celebrate as a whole community. If it is a direct family member they are hoping the killer names them as one of the saved so they get to go to the orgy in the sky.

And the only ones doing any oppressing are muslims against non-muslims in their lands, or when they are a majority in other’s lands.

Your words do not ring true and this is why this same nonsense that was spouted out of muslim’s mouths after 9/11 made me do research into islam - because what is said does not ring true. And only to find out that it isn’t true.

here is are the definitions to those words you so easily use:

innocent - only muslims are innocent. No unbeliever is innocent, not even civilians, women or children.

suicide - the person is a martyr if they die while trying to kill unbelievers. Suicide is a sin only if they take their own life without killing unbelievers.

oppressors - infidels are oppressors if muslims are not able to practice their ‘religion’ fully - and that means the political, and every other aspect of their ‘religion’. And that means infidels are not allowing themselves to be subjugated to sharia laws, or dying or converting for islam.

And do you see how easily it is for muslims to write their junk? They know that we will misinterpret those words to mean what we have been taught since we were born not realizing that in islam the world is made up of believers and unbelievers and the unbelievers are nothing but apes, pigs and feces/urine.

 

[Cluny]

We all came from God & surely will be back to Him. We must give more importance on
hereafter than the temporary earthy life.

So does Christianity.

But this is not the same thing as “loving death.”

 

[R_not]

I don’t know if you heard of this from the Israelis - ‘we will have peace when the muslims love their children more than death’.

Here is the problem with that statement and I am surprised they haven’t learned about their enemy by now: Those muslims do love their children. But they have love/hate, war/peace, truth/deception, etc all mixed up due to what islam teaches.

I am sure they are just as intimidated by death as anyone else. It is a normal human thing. They have this thing called, predestination in islam. And basically no one has really defined other than, killing/dying for allah, waging jihad (deception, da’wa, violence, etc), always saying PBUH, and a thing such as after one of their own dies while killing infidels - they are hoping that they are named as one of the 70 who are saved will bypass that predestination.

Iit is like they are ‘covering their bases’. Yes, it is a sick thought, but so is so much else in islam. With an agenda of making islam the dominant religion with everyone else either converted or subjugated (or dead), that in itself is a sick religion.

(Just in case anyone hasn’t seen this or is new to islam - here is a former muslim PLO who talks about the 70 named by their ‘martyrs’ or shahid - those who die while killing infidels. Walid Shoebat Shoebat’s experiences with what he was taught in islam..
Select the program that says, Talking It Over, PART 1 December 13, 2008.)

 

[neploho]

**To kill any innocent , commit suicide --these are considered as sins in Islalm . But to fight
in the path of God , it does not mean one hates God . One must not be afraid to fight to establish justice .
**

According to this member of Hisbollah, they love death.

The corollary, if the wise prophet Solomon is to be believed, is that they hate God.

But what do you expect from a religion founded by a pedophile?

Aside from your sophomoric, not to mention simply rude, polemic you have committed a fairly basic logical fallacy. Solomon’s proverb has as its antecedent “‘x’ hates God” consequently “‘x’ loves death”.

(x)(Hx—>Lx)

You are attempting to supply the consequent and there by claim the antecedent.

I believe the actual name of your logical fallacy is “affirming the consequent”.

They say, “Coat your words with honey in case you have to eat them”.

You may wish to keep this in mind.

 

[jakasaki]

Aside from your sophomoric, not to mention simply rude, polemic you have committed a fairly basic logical fallacy. Solomon’s proverb has as its antecedent “‘x’ hates God” consequently “‘x’ loves death”.

(x)(Hx—>Lx)

You are attempting to supply the consequent and there by claim the antecedent.

I believe the actual name of your logical fallacy is “affirming the consequent”.

They say, “Coat your words with honey in case you have to eat them”.

You may wish to keep this in mind.

Ahhhh… I see after a long departure from the forum and having browsed through your previous posts, you’ve come back to “grace” us with your “wisdom” /sarc…

Originally Posted by Cluny
**To kill any innocent , commit suicide --these are considered as sins in Islalm . But to fight
in the path of God , it does not mean one hates God . One must not be afraid to fight to establish justice .
**

According to this member of Hisbollah, they love death.

The corollary, if the wise prophet Solomon is to be believed, is that they hate God.

But what do you expect from a religion founded by a pedophile?

Since you “quoted” and responded to the above “quote”, perhaps you can spend your wisdom energy in explain to the user/poster/member your statement as opposed to sarcasm.

That would be the “charitable” thing to do… In my opinion…!!

 

[neploho]

Ahhhh… I see after a long departure from the forum and having browsed through your previous posts, you’ve come back to “grace” us with your “wisdom” /sarc…

Yes.

Since you “quoted” and responded to the above “quote”, perhaps you can spend your wisdom energy in explain to the user/poster/member your statement as opposed to sarcasm.

That would be the “charitable” thing to do… In my opinion…!!

I did not put sarcasm into my post. I don’t know what more needs explaining about my point.