Common Atheist Argument!

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What can I refute to claims from atheists that if you were born in Saudi Arabia, for example, you would be just as convinced that Allah was the true God, as you would be living in a Catholic country and believing that Jehovah is the true God. How do I refute this claim?
 
The claim may well be true. What exactly is it supposed to prove? If I taught one person 2+2=5 and another 2+2=4, does the fact that the person who believes 2+2=5 believes more sincerely then the other person, does that alter which statement is true? Objective truth is not determined by how sincerely it is believed, but, instead, by fact. Does that help?
 
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What can I refute to claims from atheists that if you were born in Saudi Arabia, for example, you would be just as convinced that Allah was the true God, as you would be living in a Catholic country and believing that Jehovah is the true God. How do I refute this claim?
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I don’t think you can refute this claim without accidently proving it. Imagine two religious people were debating who’s God was the true son of God: Krishna or Jesus?

You say Jesus, the Hindu says Krishna.

That’s a stalemate, right there because the argument will just go on and on and on wihout anybody wanting to give up their post–and even winning the argument (whether it’d be the Hindu or the Catholic) won’t convince the other. Everyone is convinced that their God is the true God. You just have to look at it in different perspectives. 🤷

Ironically Yours, Blade and Blood
 
Technically Allah is true God.

Abraham had three sons…

All three sons worship the God of abraham.

Your God and My God is the God of Abraham, we all worship in the Eternal God, where we differ is in Christ.

Offer a hand at this “I don’t Judge those peoples beliefs. I know that My Christ was born into poverty, never comitted sin, was condemed a death of a murder, burried in a borrowed tomb.” Christ Said, “We do not know the ways of the Father” Therefore we cannot know what God’s store is for those who do not worship christ, we know he is a very foregiving Father and it is his place not ours to Judge the faith of those who were not born into Christ.

Leave it at that if you do not get the response in which you were looking for, It wasnt in God’s will for you to be the instrument of conversion in that persons life.

Be strong in you own personal belief in Christ do not worry about winning arguments Christ has already been the answer to everything.
 
lemonbeam said:
What can I refute to claims from atheists that if you were born in Saudi Arabia, for example, you would be just as convinced that Allah was the true God, as you would be living in a Catholic country and believing that Jehovah is the true God. How do I refute this claim?
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What is there to refute? As noted above, the truth of this rather unremarkable claim has no bearing at all on the truth of any particular religion. IOW, it isn’t really an argument at all. Perhaps the best initial response is, “So?”

– Mark L. Chance.
 
Aquinas326 said:
The claim may well be true. What exactly is it supposed to prove? If I taught one person 2+2=5 and another 2+2=4, does the fact that the person who believes 2+2=5 believes more sincerely then the other person, does that alter which statement is true? Objective truth is not determined by how sincerely it is believed, but, instead, by fact. Does that help?
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Math is math. In every country, it’s about the same. If someone gives you the wrong answer, it can be proved and corrected.

Religion is different in every culture. Belief is not quite opinion, nor is it completely fact; it’s just there. A mixture of many characteristics–one of them being literature. When you interpret literature, there’s never really wrong or right answer. Everyone’s interpretations are different.

Ironically Yours. ❤️
 
Ask the person if truth is determined by consensus. If that is the case, than you simply cannot disaprove of anything.

And if that is the case, why are they arguing with you?
 
Good grief! I would just extend the argument and say that if one was born in the Soviet Union or China or Berkeley, CA, they would be just as convinced that atheism was true. Have I just proven that atheism isn’t true?!

(yes, I know the USSR no longer exists, and that religious belief is making a comeback in the former USSR).
 
lemonbeam said:
What can I refute to claims from atheists that if you were born in Saudi Arabia, for example, you would be just as convinced that Allah was the true God, as you would be living in a Catholic country and believing that Jehovah is the true God. How do I refute this claim?
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Since when is Jehovah God’s “name”? I thought it was an incorrect combination of YHWH and something else.
 
catholic1seeks said:
Since when is Jehovah God’s “name”? I thought it was an incorrect combination of YHWH and something else.
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It’s an incorrect mixing of YWHW and “Adoni” (Which I belive means “lord” or “master”) which was formulated by a 16th century German monk (this is all if I remember correctly).
He took the vowels from Adoni and spaced them between YHWH. He got Yahoweh or, alternately, “Jehova”. This is really besides the point, though…
 
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