commonly misquoted verses and narrations (from islamic texts)

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greetings.

i found this site today and thought i’d share the following article since many of those who claim islam promotes terrorism love to quote many Quranic verses and prophetic hadeeths in attempts to support their claims. this article goes through a number of the commonly misquoted “evidences” and gives their explanations.

commonly misquoted verses and narrations by ansar al-'adl.
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In our time, we find it becoming more and more common for some people to misquote verses from the Qur’an, or narrations of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), in order to support their twisted presentation of Islam as a hostile and violent religion. The majority of these verses are either mistranslated, taken out of context, or misunderstood due to lack of basic knowledge. For example, Jihad is misunderstood by many people today as a “holy war”, hence, whenever it is praised in the Qur’an, it is seen in a negative light. Jihad in reality is a positive concept, not a negative one, and for this reason, one must read about Jihad before reading the rest of this article. The explanation of Jihad can be read here: load-islam.com/c/Islam/JihadExplanation This article intends to clarify the misconception that Islam promotes violence and hatred by re-examining the misquoted verses and narrations. As we shall see, once understood properly, it becomes apparent that Islam teaches nothing but peace, harmony and tolerance for all humanity. We have selected and quoted the verses/narrations in the way that they are circulated by the Islam-haters, so that the poor translation and other deceptive tactics of the Islam-Haters may be exposed.
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Yes, there is so much misinterpretation of Arabic words because Arabic is a very imprecise language.

I would really appreciate if an Arabic speaker will tell us kafirs what jihad means in surah 9. Please tell us what each occurrence of jihad (or jahidi) in Surah 9 means - personal quest or external violence?

Thanks gonzales,
Rodrigo
 
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r.gonzales:
so says the one with little to no knowledge of the language… :rolleyes: .
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An ad-hominem attack, topped off by one of your signature overused :rolleyes: faces. You certainly showed that guy, didn’t you?

Arabic really is a very imprecise lanugage. You’ll just have to deal with it.
 
Gonzales,
Pease show how precise the Arabic word for JIHAD / JAHID is in Surah 9, gonzales.

We’re waiting for your expertise on this one, buddy.

Over to you, Maestro.

Ciubate,
Mata Moro
 
Surah: 9.5 ‘Then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them’ 9.14 ‘Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame’ 9.23 ‘O ye who believe! Take not for protectors your fathers and your brothers if they love infidelity above faith’ 9.28 ‘O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean’ 9.29 ‘Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the last day … And figh People of the Book, who do not accept the religion of truth (Islam) until they pay tribute by hand, being inferior’. Please explain were those verses revealed in a specific moment during that time or it is a legal action commanded by Muhammad for Muslims to fight kafirs. I dont intend to discus 9.29 as we already had it but wholey Surah 9 like Bivar’s request. Thanks.
 
I think the words are corrupted when the koran got translated into English. That’s why y’all misquote and misunderstand the true meaning of Islam.
 
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exoflare:
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it’s a statement pointing out a fact. one who doesn’t even understand the language can hardly make such a comment. it pretty much applies to you as well.

the word jihaad means “endeavor”, “struggle”. it comes from the root word jahada which means “to strive/struggle/endeavor”, “to put forth an effort.”

as for soorah at-tawbah (repentance), the ninth soorah of the Quran, it covers a few different topics, and much like the rest of the Quran, was not revealed as one complete soorah, but as bits and pieces over a span of time. so the verses within it carry different contexts depending on the circumstances of the times the verses were revealed.

if you want to read about jihaad and how it is to be understood according to islamic tenets, this book is one you should consider: holy wars, crusades, jihad by jalal abualrub.
 
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MugenOne:
I think the words are corrupted when the koran got translated into English. That’s why y’all misquote and misunderstand the true meaning of Islam.
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But jihad itself is arabic (??) and even american now understand what jihad means…without need to translate into englis word. a very famous word nowdays
 
I was just messing around with y’all. You know, how our Muslim brethren always like to point out the words on our corrupted “Books” aren’t worth the paper it’s printed on. The reason we misquote and misunderstand Islam because we’re also using a corrupted version of the Koran. The Koran is not pure if it’s translated.
 
Greetings!

I’m neither Arab nor Muslim, but this at least I can explain.

“Jihad” literally means “struggle.”

But the important thing to note is that Muslim doctrine states that the “greater jihad” (their term) is the struggle to control and advance the self.

The usage of jihad to mean “warfare” is known as the “lesser jihad.”

And newer religion such as the Baha’i Faith has expressly banned the warfare form of jihad…

Regards,

Bruce
 
I already know that Jihad can have two meanings; the lesser and the greater Jihad. One means internal quest/struggle and the other means…

I again humbly and respectfully ask our resident self-appointed Arabic expert to please clarify the meaning of Jihad in surah 9. It is mentioned several times. I think six: 9:24; 9:41; 9:44; 9:73; 9:81; 9:86.

However, one feels that Senor Gonzales is too busy to tell us all what Jihad in surah 9 means, even though he has never previously been shy to tell us kafirs how ignorant we are of the Arabic language and has never hesitated to set us right when we have ‘erred’.

Ciubate,
Cid
 
Play nice… This forum is moderated on TONE as well as content.

If one is being supercilious one might find themsleves on vacation and/or their posts edited for tone.

Peace,

Rachel
 
Vacation? What do you mean, Rachel?
Honestly, reading the term Jihad in Surah 9 quoted by Cyber (if I am not mistaken, the Surah was written later in Mohammed’s quest), they are the call to fight. And the surah is not related to internal struggle at all.
May be R.Gonzales can confirm for us about that, since he is knowledgeable about Islam.
 
Jihad is a call for fight on defensive and offensive acts toward kafirs. And its easy to find jihadist nowdays whether in middleast or asia. Why do you guys hardly understood the meaning of jihad?
 
Vickie, welcome back! I believe you enjoyed your vacation. Rachel loves joke and Neverland being so innocent. Pls continue to post. Its a good thread! 🙂
 
Rodrigo Bivar:
I already know that Jihad can have two meanings; the lesser and the greater Jihad. One means internal quest/struggle and the other means…
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actually, the word “jihaad” only has one meaning; struggle, striving. in islamic terminology jihaad includes any type of struggle the believer goes through for Allah’s sake. it has different levels and different types, but all of them are “struggling” and “striving”.
Rodrigo Bivar:
please clarify the meaning of Jihad in surah 9. It is mentioned several times. I think six: 9:24; 9:41; 9:44; 9:73; 9:81; 9:86.
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here are each of the verses cited by mr. bivar:
9:24 – say, "if your fathers, your sons, your brothers, your wives, your kinsfolk, wealth that you commission, business whose recession you fear and dwellings you are pleased with are more beloved to you than Allah, His messenger and jihaad in His path, then wait until Allah’s command comes. and Allah does not guide the sinful people.

9:41 – hurry lightly and heavily and strive with your wealth and yourselves in Allah’s path. that is better for you if you know.

9:44 – those who believe in Allah and the Last Day do not seek permission from you [to be excused from having] to strive with their wealth and their selves. and Allah is Knowledgeable of the pious.

9:73 – o prophet, strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be harsh against them. their abode is hell, and the outcome is wretched.

9:81 – those left behind rejoiced with their seat apart from Allah’s messenger and they hated that they strive with their wealth and their selves in Allah’s path. and they said, “we will not hurry in the heat.” say, “the fire of hell is more severe in heat,” if they would understand!

9:86 – and if a soorah were revealed that they are to believe in Allah and strive with His messenger, the possessors of might amongst them would seek permission from you [to be excused] and they would say, “leave us with the sitting ones.”

technically, of those verses cited, the actual word “jihaad” ( جهاد ) only apprears in verse 9:24. in the other verses what is found is the verb “jaahada” ( جاهد ), which means “to struggle”, “to strive”, “to endeavour” and can be taken to mean “to make ‘jihaad’”. in the one verse it appears in it includes all the types and forms of jihaad; striving against the soul, striving against the disbelievers, striving against the people of desires and innovation, etc. as well as all the various means these struggles and endeavours can be carried out by. in all the instances the word means exactly what i mentioned above; to struggle, to strive, to endeavour, all for Allah’s sake.

verses 41, 44, 81 & 86 were revealed specifically regarding the battle of tabook and are in the context of putting forth an effort in fighting or in spending wealth for the purpose of fighting against aggressive, hostile opponents. the battle of tabook was fought on account of the aggression and hostility displayed by the byzantinian romans in syria who were preparing an army to fight the muslims.

con’t…
 
verse 73 however, is a bit different. while 9:73 makes specific reference to striving against the hypocrites and the disbelievers, this striving isn’t restricted to “fighting” and “war”, but includes all the various means that struggling against the open enemies of islam can be carried out by.

in explanation of a statement from muhammad bin abdil-wahhaab, muhammad al-uthaimeen, one of our era’s top scholars mentions this verse and gives a proper explantion of jihaad against the dibelievers and hypocrites. in his book kashf ash-shubuhaat ibn abdil-wahhaab said, “so Allah’s army, they are dominant with the proof and the tongue, just as they are dominant with the sword and the spear.” in commentary to this, ibn al-uthaimeen states:
the writer, may Allah have mercy on him, indicated that Allah’s army are His believing servants who aid Allah and His messenger, striving against the people in two matters.

the first, the proof and the clarification. and this is with respect to the hypocrites who do not make their enmity of the muslims apparent. so these ones, they are strived against with the proof and the clarification.

the second is the one who is striven against with the sword and the spear. and they are those who are apparent in their enmity. they are the pure disbelievers who are known for their disbelief.

and regarding this and that which is mentioned before it, Allah says, “o prophet, endeavour against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh against them. their abode will be hell. and the outcome is wretched.” (66:9)

striving with the proof and the clarification is for the disbelievers first, then they are striven against with the sword and the spear second. and they are not striven against with the sword and the spear except after establishment of the proof against them.

the obligation upon the islamic nation is to fight every weapon directed towards islam with what befits it. so whoever wages war against islam by way of ideologies and statements, it is obligatory to clarify the falsehood of what they are upon with logical theoretical evidences linked to the legislative evidences. and those who wage war against islam from the direction of economy, it is obligatory that it be defended against, rather, it is to be attacked if possible, by the likes of what they age war against islam with. and those who wage war against islam with weapons, it is obligatory that they be opposed by what befits those weapons.

it should be noted that the verse referenced in the quote from ibn uthaimeen is the also a verse in soorah at-tawbah (ch.9), 9:73.
 
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MugenOne:
I think the words are corrupted when the koran got translated into English. That’s why y’all misquote and misunderstand the true meaning of Islam.
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No, I don’t agree. If the Qu’ran can not be successfully translated then that is a problem for the Qu’ran, not for the reader.

I do not misunderstand the true meaning of Islam, I did not gain my understanding of it from the Qu’ran, but rather from those who practice it.
 
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