Communion Bread wafers

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I was reading a site today about them. Said the Catholic round one and the little square ones Protestants in some denominations use are NOT baked and vegetable oil is used as an ingredient. I wont post the link cause it was not a Catholic friendly site. Is it correct on these points?
 
Syele said:
I was reading a site today about them. Said the Catholic round one and the little square ones Protestants in some denominations use are NOT baked and vegetable oil is used as an ingredient. I wont post the link cause it was not a Catholic friendly site. Is it correct on these points?
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I’m not “completely” sure what constitutes “baking”, but Catholic Communion wafers are composed of flour and water, and then baked using fire heat. I don’t think vegetable oil is used.
 
Syele said:
I was reading a site today about them. Said the Catholic round one and the little square ones Protestants in some denominations use are NOT baked and vegetable oil is used as an ingredient. I wont post the link cause it was not a Catholic friendly site. Is it correct on these points?
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***Catholic communion wafers are composed of gluten containing wheat flour and water only.

The size or shape of the host is immaterial.

Look here to see several types of hosts used by Catholics.***

cavanaghco.com/index.html
 
Syele said:
I was reading a site today about them. Said the Catholic round one and the little square ones Protestants in some denominations use are NOT baked and vegetable oil is used as an ingredient. I wont post the link cause it was not a Catholic friendly site. Is it correct on these points?
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Also Cathloics use wine and not grape juice
 
Some hosts are more or less fried, not baked, but either means is acceptable (study how flat bread can be made in the Middle East).

Most of the convents that make hosts use a small amout of bees wax on the pan to prevent sticking. It does not enter the host nor does it effect anything.

The addition of vegitable oil, sugar, etc. messes it up.

Wheat flour only. IN the East, yeast is added, so it is acceptable, but only a small amount.

If non-Catholics use valid matter, it is fine. There is no requirement on where the hosts come from
 
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Also Cathloics use wine and not grape juice
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I don’t agree with using Grape Juice, Only that is completely off topic. Its the Host I want to learn more about.
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 Some hosts are more or less fried, not baked, but either means is acceptable (study how flat bread can be made in the Middle East).
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Fried in water? That does sound odd.
Most of the convents that make hosts use a small amout of bees wax on the pan to prevent sticking. It does not enter the host nor does it effect anything.
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Sounds reasonable
If non-Catholics use valid matter, it is fine. There is no requirement on where the hosts come from
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That is a weird thing to say. Did you mean invalid? Cause Im positive many Protestants DO have such requirements.
 
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***Grape wine.

Blackberry wine or other types of wine are not acceptable matter.***
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We’ve always used white wine. I don’t care if it was green wine, it doesn’t matter once it turns into the Blood of Christ.
 
OneTrueCathApos said:
We’ve always used white wine. I don’t care if it was green wine, it doesn’t matter once it turns into the Blood of Christ.
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I’d be a bit concerned if a Priest was trying to consecrate green wine. Course it wouldn’t be the first time I was concerned about stuff a Priest did.
 
Syele said:
I’d be a bit concerned if a Priest was trying to consecrate green wine. Course it wouldn’t be the first time I was concerned about stuff a Priest did.
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And why the last dig? Typical anti-Catholic…again…it gets tiring and old after a while.
 
Syele said:
I was reading a site today about them. Said the Catholic round one and the little square ones Protestants in some denominations use are NOT baked and vegetable oil is used as an ingredient. I wont post the link cause it was not a Catholic friendly site. Is it correct on these points?
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If vegetable oil were used, it would not be valid matter for the Catholic Eucharist. Only wheat flour and water can be used to make the host. I don’t know what Protestants use.
 
PaulDupre said:
If vegetable oil were used, it would not be valid matter for the Catholic Eucharist. Only wheat flour and water can be used to make the host. I don’t know what Protestants use.
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Someone told me that wheat thins were used…:eek:
 
Those Protestants that don’t use a host use all kinds of things. At a non-denom I once attended, they used saltine crackers and grape juice. Yet, one must understand that these groups see the Lord’s supper as only a symbolic remembrance so they would not be as stringent in the choice of matter. Lutherans, who believe in the Real Presence, use hosts similar to ours.
 
PaulDupre said:
Those Protestants that don’t use a host use all kinds of things. At a non-denom I once attended, they used saltine crackers and grape juice. Yet, one must understand that these groups see the Lord’s supper as only a symbolic remembrance so they would not be as stringent in the choice of matter.
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Paul You are right the non-cathloic churchs I have been to had saltine crackers and grape juice also one was non-denomination and the other was baptist
 
As for what protestants use, it varies by denomination.
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And why the last dig? Typical anti-Catholic…again…it gets tiring and old after a while.
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I was feeling overly defensive. Im sorry, it should not have been directed at you or priests in general. I can say the same about Protestant pastors and others as well, lots and lots of them do lots of things I disagree with. Maybe Im just generally disagreeable.

Really now though, green? I think there are real reasons for what is used in the Holy Communion and changing it to green would not be cool.
 
Syele said:
I don’t agree with using Grape Juice, Only that is completely off topic. Its the Host I want to learn more about.

Fried in water? That does sound odd.

Sounds reasonable

That is a weird thing to say. Did you mean invalid? Cause Im positive many Protestants DO have such requirements.
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No, the water and flour mixture is more or less fried. IN other words, the pan is heated, the mixture added, and it is so thin it cooks almost instantly.

No, I mean that it is fine if the matter is valid. It does not mean, from a Catholic point of view, that they are actually consecrating.
 
thanks for everyone posting the Catholic rules about it. Is there a Church document that tells the whys behind the rules?
 
Syele said:
thanks for everyone posting the Catholic rules about it. Is there a Church document that tells the whys behind the rules?
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I am sure there are multiple ones, but I do not know which. Google the GIRM or Rubrix for the Catholic Church. That may help. I am sure that the Sacramental part of this board will, as might ask a apologist and the catholic.com site.

Long and short, the bread is to be as close to passover bread as it can. The wine must be grape wine. That is what Jesus used.
 
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