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Not surprising…but still an abuse!The last 4 Metropolitans haven’t had a problem with it…![]()
Not surprising…but still an abuse!The last 4 Metropolitans haven’t had a problem with it…![]()
Can you elaborate on this pleaseThat is not and has not been the Kyivan tradition.
You don’t need the bread to give the Precious Blood since there is a spoon anyway. I mean, if it works for babies…If we are talking about the presanctified liturgy, a portion of the Lamb is put into unconsecrated wine.
Apart from the practical purpose, I found several opinions. One is that the unconsecrated wine is consecrated by comingling. Others maintain the wine keep on unconsecrated.
Regarding adding more bread to the chalice, is the bread considered become consecrated or is it done for practical purpose (that is to distributed the consecrated wine more easily by let it absorbed by the bread)?
The older tradition, preserved in the Byzantine Catholic Church, is to receive only the body of Christ during Lent (at the Presanctified), rather than using intinction. According Light for Life (Part II) the addition of the consecrated Body to the wine, by those that use intinction, may stem from the belief that the wine is sanctified by doing so.If we are talking about the presanctified liturgy, a portion of the Lamb is put into unconsecrated wine.
Apart from the practical purpose, I found several opinions. One is that the unconsecrated wine is consecrated by comingling. Others maintain the wine keep on unconsecrated.
Regarding adding more bread to the chalice, is the bread considered become consecrated or is it done for practical purpose (that is to distributed the consecrated wine more easily by let it absorbed by the bread)?
How does the Priest lift that Chalice?Here’s one solution to that problem:
http://orthocath.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/lamb-and-chalice-in-kiev-ukraine.jpg
(from orthocuban.com/2010/08/very-large-chalice-and-diskos/)
Two priests will lift it. I believe a table of some sort will be placed where Communion will be given to put down the chalice.How does the Priest lift that Chalice?
I have been at Liturgies where a chalice of that size have been used. 2 priests will carry it in the Great Entrance, for communion the Precious Blood is ladled out into regular sized chalices. The large chalice remains on the altar.Two priests will lift it. I believe a table of some sort will be placed where Communion will be given to put down the chalice.
And how would they clean a chalice that big?Here’s one solution to that problem:
http://orthocath.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/lamb-and-chalice-in-kiev-ukraine.jpg
(from orthocuban.com/2010/08/very-large-chalice-and-diskos/)
With the altar clothAnd how would they clean a chalice that big?