Communion in Non-Roman Rites

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Can a Roman-Rite Catholic take communion in other rites such as the Byzantine, Maronite, Ukranian rites, etc.
 
BListon said:
Can a Roman-Rite Catholic take communion in other rites such as the Byzantine, Maronite, Ukranian rites, etc.
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So long as those Churches are in communion with Rome, yes! The Maronites are always a “yes” because they have no Orthodox counterpart. As for the other Eastern Churches, you will have to make sure that they are Eastern Catholic Churches and not Eastern Orthodox if you intend to receive Communion.

Attending Divine Liturgy/Qurbono/Mass at one of the Eastern Catholic Churches will also fulfill your Sunday obligations.

Incidentally, it is important to note that these are Eastern Catholic Churches. The word “rite” refers to their ritual/liturgical/sacramental traditions. So, for example, there is the Byzantine Rite (i.e. liturgical form) which is used by the Melkite, Russian, Ukrainian, Ruthenian, Romanian, etc. Eastern Catholic “sui iuris” Churches. 👍
 
Phillip_Rolfes said:
So long as those Churches are in communion with Rome, yes! The Maronites are always a “yes” because they have no Orthodox counterpart. As for the other Eastern Churches, you will have to make sure that they are Eastern Catholic Churches and not Eastern Orthodox if you intend to receive Communion.

Attending Divine Liturgy/Qurbono/Mass at one of the Eastern Catholic Churches will also fulfill your Sunday obligations.

Incidentally, it is important to note that these are Eastern Catholic Churches. The word “rite” refers to their ritual/liturgical/sacramental traditions. So, for example, there is the Byzantine Rite (i.e. liturgical form) which is used by the Melkite, Russian, Ukrainian, Ruthenian, Romanian, etc. Eastern Catholic “sui iuris” Churches. 👍
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This answer seems complete enough for the question but no accurate independent of the question. For example according to canon 822 S 2 gives expression to UR from Vatican II, to state: "Whenever necessity requires it or true spiritual advantage suggests it, and provided that danger of error or of indifferentism is avoided, the Christian faithful for whom it is physically or morally impossible to approach a Catholic minister are permitted to receive the sacraments of penance, Eucharist, and anointing of the sick from non-Catholic ministers in whose Churches these sacraments are valid [e.g. various Orthodox churches].

Note all 4 conditions must be met.
a. necessity or genuine spiritual advantage
b. when the danger of error or indifferentism is avoided
c. it is physically or morally impossible to approach a Catholic minister
d. a church which has valid sacraments (This rules out reformation churches, or pretty much is limited to most orthodox churches).
 
couponfit said:
Note all 4 conditions must be met.
a. necessity or genuine spiritual advantage
b. when the danger of error or indifferentism is avoided
c. it is physically or morally impossible to approach a Catholic minister
d. a church which has valid sacraments (This rules out reformation churches, or pretty much is limited to most orthodox churches).
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What would “morally impossible” mean?

Does this also mean that I can’t take the Eucharist of an Orthodox Church (not that they’d offer it to me, anyway)?

Or that participating in an Orthodox Liturgy is… er… not OK?
 
TarkanAttila said:
What would “morally impossible” mean?

Does this also mean that I can’t take the Eucharist of an Orthodox Church (not that they’d offer it to me, anyway)?

Or that participating in an Orthodox Liturgy is… er… not OK?
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I’ll let someone else answer this one who can give a clear and precise answer.
 
couponfit said:
This answer seems complete enough for the question but no accurate independent of the question. For example according to canon 822 S 2 gives expression to UR from Vatican II, to state: "Whenever necessity requires it or true spiritual advantage suggests it, and provided that danger of error or of indifferentism is avoided, the Christian faithful for whom it is physically or morally impossible to approach a Catholic minister are permitted to receive the sacraments of penance, Eucharist, and anointing of the sick from non-Catholic ministers in whose Churches these sacraments are valid [e.g. various Orthodox churches].

Note all 4 conditions must be met.
a. necessity or genuine spiritual advantage
b. when the danger of error or indifferentism is avoided
c. it is physically or morally impossible to approach a Catholic minister
d. a church which has valid sacraments (This rules out reformation churches, or pretty much is limited to most orthodox churches).
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Of course, from a Catholic standpoint it is permissible for Catholics to receive Communion at an Orthodox parish in cases of necessity; I’m well aware of that. But it would really be up to the discretion of the Orthodox priest as to whether or not he would permit the Catholic to receive. Out of charity any Catholic ought to make his Catholicity known to the Orthodox priest before approaching the chalice. Otherwise one runs the risk of causing scandal.

My point was simply that the OP should make sure they are in an Eastern Catholic Church and not an Orthodox Church before attempting to receive.
 
couponfit said:
I’ll let someone else answer this one who can give a clear and precise answer.
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Moral impossibility means circumstances where observance of the law would require heroism beyond the call of duty, that i.e., extreme inconvenience, or action that is extraordinarily burdensome. The moral order is responsible to the natural law judged by conscience.

The Latin Catholic Church and the 22 eastern Catholic Churches are all Catholic since they are in full communion with the Pope. Apart from them are the non-Catholic churches, which are the Assyrian Church of the East, Oriental Orthodox, and Eastern Orthodox churches, all with valid Apostolic succession. For those non-Catholic churches the following applies:

***Sharing in Sacramental Life, especially the Eucharist

*** *a) Sharing in Sacramental Life with members of the various Eastern Churches
    1. Between the Catholic Church and the Eastern Churches not in full communion with it, there is still a very close communion in matters of faith.125 Moreover, “through the celebration of the Eucharist of the Lord in each of these Churches, the Church of God is built up and grows in stature” and “although separated from us, these Churches still possess true sacraments, above all—by apostolic succession—the priesthood and the Eucharist…”.126 This offers ecclesiological and sacramental grounds, according to the understanding of the Catholic Church, for allowing and even encouraging some sharing in liturgical worship, even of the Eucharist, with these Churches, “given suitable circumstances and the approval of church authorities”.127 It is recognized, however, that Eastern Churches, on the basis of their own ecclesiological understanding, may have more restrictive disciplines in this matter, which others should respect. Pastors should carefully instruct the faithful so that they will be clearly aware of the proper reasons for this kind of sharing in liturgical worship and of the variety of discipline which may exist in this connection.
  1. Whenever necessity requires or a genuine spiritual advantage suggests, and provided that the danger of error or indifferentism is avoided, it is lawful for any Catholic for whom it is physically or morally impossible to approach a Catholic minister, to receive the sacraments of penance, Eucharist and anointing of the sick from a minister of an Eastern Church.128
  2. Since practice differs between Catholics and Eastern Christians in the matter of frequent communion, confession before communion and the Eucharistic fast, care must be taken to avoid scandal and suspicion among Eastern Christians through Catholics not following the Eastern usage. A Catholic who legitimately wishes to communicate with Eastern Christians must respect the Eastern discipline as much as possible and refrain from communicating if that Church restricts sacramental communion to its own members to the exclusion of others.
Vatican reference:
vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/general-docs/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_19930325_directory_en.html
 
Vico said:
Moral impossibility means circumstances where observance of the law would require heroism beyond the call of duty, that i.e., extreme inconvenience, or action that is extraordinarily burdensome. The moral order is responsible to the natural law judged by conscience.

The Latin Catholic Church and the 22 eastern Catholic Churches are all Catholic since they are in full communion with the Pope. Apart from them are the non-Catholic churches, which are the Assyrian Church of the East, Oriental Orthodox, and Eastern Orthodox churches, all with valid Apostolic succession. For those non-Catholic churches the following applies:

***Sharing in Sacramental Life, especially the Eucharist

*** *a) Sharing in Sacramental Life with members of the various Eastern Churches
    1. Between the Catholic Church and the Eastern Churches not in full communion with it, there is still a very close communion in matters of faith.125 Moreover, “through the celebration of the Eucharist of the Lord in each of these Churches, the Church of God is built up and grows in stature” and “although separated from us, these Churches still possess true sacraments, above all—by apostolic succession—the priesthood and the Eucharist…”.126 This offers ecclesiological and sacramental grounds, according to the understanding of the Catholic Church, for allowing and even encouraging some sharing in liturgical worship, even of the Eucharist, with these Churches, “given suitable circumstances and the approval of church authorities”.127 It is recognized, however, that Eastern Churches, on the basis of their own ecclesiological understanding, may have more restrictive disciplines in this matter, which others should respect. Pastors should carefully instruct the faithful so that they will be clearly aware of the proper reasons for this kind of sharing in liturgical worship and of the variety of discipline which may exist in this connection.
  1. Whenever necessity requires or a genuine spiritual advantage suggests, and provided that the danger of error or indifferentism is avoided, it is lawful for any Catholic for whom it is physically or morally impossible to approach a Catholic minister, to receive the sacraments of penance, Eucharist and anointing of the sick from a minister of an Eastern Church.128
  2. Since practice differs between Catholics and Eastern Christians in the matter of frequent communion, confession before communion and the Eucharistic fast, care must be taken to avoid scandal and suspicion among Eastern Christians through Catholics not following the Eastern usage. A Catholic who legitimately wishes to communicate with Eastern Christians must respect the Eastern discipline as much as possible and refrain from communicating if that Church restricts sacramental communion to its own members to the exclusion of others.
Vatican reference:
vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/general-docs/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_19930325_directory_en.html
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good answer
 
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