Communion in the Hand

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This is truly beating a dead horse. I’ve received communion both ways and I truly can say I do not think one way is any more reverant than the other. This is a truly subjective debate. I’ve seen the Blessed Sacrament dropped when the priest attempted to put it on someone’s tongue but I haven’t seen it dropped when placed in someone’s hand. I’m not saying that it couldn’t happen either way. I’ve just seen it dropped once in my 27 years of receiving the Eucharist and it was while placing it on the tongue. I believe people lose the sense of the Real Presence because of a lack of catechesis. You can’t convince me that you are more reverant and have a deeper appreciation for the Blessed Sacrament than I do just because you receive on your tongue and I choose to receive the Blessed Sacrament in my hand.
 
Just as one has the right to receive Communion into one’s hand, so have they equally the right to receive on the tongue. Personally I would rather see everyone choosing the latter method. I think that if there is any danger of Christ falling to the floor - even the most minute particle of the host - this danger must be omitted, insofar as this is possible. The fact is that the more people who receive in the hand, the likelihood of particles being lost is increased. It is only in the last seven months that I have begun receiving Communion onto my tongue - I told the reason why in another similar discussion, but maybe it’s worth mentioning again: It was All-Saints Day last year, and that morning I went to Mass. At Communion-time I went and knelt at the altar rail, and then received the Body of Christ into my hands. Having consumed the Lord, I went back to my pew, and as I knelt to pray, I noticed that there was at least one tiny particle of the host on my hand. I ate this piece too, but I was greatly troubled by the thought that had I not noticed that little piece, I would have carelessly let Christ fall to the floor to be trampled upon. Moreover, I was troubled by the thought that this could have happend every single time I received my First Holy Communion 17 years ago. From that day, I have felt it best to receive Communion directly onto my tongue.
Strictly speaking, according to the Holy See, there is not a right to receive in the hand. And yes, it is a very important part of catechesis to emphasize that every particle received that is still large enough to be recognized as having the appearance of bread is the Blessed Sacrament.

As a EMHC, I have this to ask, though…please, brothers and sisters, when you receive directly on the tongue, open your mouths wide enough to receive our Lord easily and don’t snap your mouth shut quickly, particularly when there isn’t a server with a paten present. Practice in front of a mirror, if necessary, so you know what “wide enough” feels like. You are not the only one whose thoughts might be troubled when you receive!
 
Strictly speaking, according to the Holy See, there is not a right to receive in the hand. And yes, it is a very important part of catechesis to emphasize that every particle received that is still large enough to be recognized as having the appearance of bread is the Blessed Sacrament.

As a EMHC, I have this to ask, though…please, brothers and sisters, when you receive directly on the tongue, open your mouths wide enough to receive our Lord easily and don’t snap your mouth shut quickly, particularly when there isn’t a server with a paten present. Practice in front of a mirror, if necessary, so you know what “wide enough” feels like. You are not the only one whose thoughts might be troubled when you receive!
Please provide the source for your statement concerning the Holy See and there is not a right to receive in the hand. When he was in New York at the Mass he celebrated the Mass and gave communion in the hand and most of the recipients were clergy or nuns.

Also, if you read through this thread, please note some of those promoting receiving on the tongue as opposed to in the hand also promote that only the ordained should be giving communion. Or am I reading that wrong?

May the peace of the Lord be with you,
Prodigal Son1
 
All,
I was baptized when I was still a baby. And my first communion, I had been taught to receive it by my right hand but after that I should look carefully whether there’s crumbs and if it did then I should lick with my tongue. And here in my country, we always receive communion with our hands. But I read something about the reason why we receive with our tongue, then since that time, I receive communion with my tongue although I felt uncomfortable at the first time. But now I’m very comfortable receiving it with my tongue and better than with my hand.
 
And Jesus placed the bread in the Apostles mouth?? Don’t think so. Did Jesus give instructions on cleaning up the crumbs that dropped so his body wouldn’t be on the floor? Don’t think so.
The Apostles were not lay people like you and I so the placing the “bread” as you heretically call “Him” into their mouths argument is destroyed.

In fact I will argue no further since your belief is questionable.

Ken
 
Please provide the source. I would be interested in reading it and am curious as to the context. For my own assurance. 🙂
Thanks!
God Is Near Us”, written by Cardinal Ratzinger in 2001.
“Well, first of all, I would like to say that both attitudes are possible, and I would like therefore, to ask all priests to exercise tolerance and to recognize the decision of each person; and I would further like to ask you to exercise the same tolerance and not to cast aspersions on anyone who may have opted for this or that way of doing it…”
“But you will ask: is tolerance the proper answer here? Or is it not misplaced with respect to this most holy thing? Well, here again we know that until the nineth century Communion was received in the hand standing… the Church could not have possibly been celebrating the Eucharist unworthily for nine hundred years.”
Anyone who reflects on this will recognize that on this point it is quite wrong to argue about this or that form of behavior. We should be concerned only to argue in favor of what the Church’s efforts were directed toward, both before and after the ninth century, that is a reverence in the heart, an inner submission before the mystery of God that puts himself into our hands. Thus we should not forget that not only our hands are impure but also our tongue and also our heart and that we often sin more with the tongue than with the hands. God takes an enormous risk–and at the same time this is an expression of his merciful goodness–in allowing not only our hand and our tongue but even our heart to come into contact with him.
What do these excerpts mean to you? Maybe I’m reading more into it than I should.:hmmm:

May the peace of the Lord be with you,
Prodigal Son1
 
Please provide the source. I am interested in reading into that more. Was he specifically talking about receiving Communion? How early was that quote from?

Luke
Was that a question about my post. I can’t tell since you didn’t quote it. It is always best to quote the post you are addressing to avoid confusion.

Just in case it was, here’s some more info. It turns out it was actually St. Cyril of Jerusalem’s work, Mystagogical Catechesis:

”When you approach, do not present your hands spread out nor your fingers separated, but make a throne with your left hand for your right hand since it has to receive the King, and receive the body of Christ in the hollow of your hand, saing, ‘Amen.’ Take care then to hallow your eyes by the touch of the sacred body, then consume it, and make sure you do not lose any portion of it. So after having received the body of Christ in Communion, approach also the chalice of his blood. Do not stretch your hands out, but bowing in an attitude of respect and adoration saying, ‘Amen,’ hallow yourself by taking also the blood of Christ. And while your lips are still wet, brush them with your hands and hallow also your eyes, your forehead and your other senses.”

Here’s some additional information on St. Cyril: newadvent.org/cathen/04595b.htm
 
The Apostles were not lay people like you and I so the placing the “bread” as you heretically call “Him” into their mouths argument is destroyed.

In fact I will argue no further since your belief is questionable.

Ken
St Paul himself calls ‘Him’ in the form of the Eucharist ‘bread’ so no need to get on your high horse and wrongly declare it as heresy.
 
Please provide the source for your statement concerning the Holy See and there is not a right to receive in the hand. When he was in New York at the Mass he celebrated the Mass and gave communion in the hand and most of the recipients were clergy or nuns.

Also, if you read through this thread, please note some of those promoting receiving on the tongue as opposed to in the hand also promote that only the ordained should be giving communion. Or am I reading that wrong?

May the peace of the Lord be with you,
Prodigal Son1
The Vatican has Redemptionis Sacramentum posted on its website. The URL is long; Google will get you there. It is not that individual priests have the right to arbitrarily deny to administer Holy Communion in the hand. It is that there are valid reasons that Holy Communion might not be administered in the hand, while reception on the tongue is stated to be a right of the faithful.

These are a few passages that will be of interest (italics mine):

[92.] Although each of the faithful always has the right to receive Holy Communion on the tongue, at his choice,[178] if any communicant should wish to receive the Sacrament in the hand, in areas where the Bishops’ Conference with the recognitio of the Apostolic See has given permission, the sacred host is to be administered to him or her. However, special care should be taken to ensure that the host is consumed by the communicant in the presence of the minister, so that no one goes away carrying the Eucharistic species in his hand. If there is a risk of profanation, then Holy Communion should not be given in the hand to the faithful.[179]

[157.] If there is usually present a sufficient number of sacred ministers for the distribution of Holy Communion, extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion may not be appointed. Indeed, in such circumstances, those who may have already been appointed to this ministry should not exercise it. The practice of those Priests is reprobated who, even though present at the celebration, abstain from distributing Communion and hand this function over to laypersons.[258]

[158.] Indeed, the extraordinary minister of Holy Communion may administer Communion only when the Priest and Deacon are lacking, when the Priest is prevented by weakness or advanced age or some other genuine reason, or when the number of faithful coming to Communion is so great that the very celebration of Mass would be unduly prolonged.[259] This, however, is to be understood in such a way that a brief prolongation, considering the circumstances and culture of the place, is not at all a sufficient reason.

I don’t have this on authority, but it is my impression that, in practice, the greater strain placed on a priest who is doing three or four Masses in a weekend would be a factor in favor of more EMHCs than would be the case if the priest were only doing one Mass. The extra ten or fifteen minutes it would take to do without EMHCs might not seem like much in terms of getting the parking lot emptied in time for the next Mass, but it adds up in terms of how exhausted he is by the time he finishes the last Mass of each weekend.
 
I don’t really know why this would be such a big deal.

To me, it’s the kneeling that’s important, i.e. the submission, though I don’t have a problem with people standing.

They could probably just solve all the problems by universally declaring intinction.
 
Regarding the Last Supper, considering all the Apostles were bishops even if Communion was distributed in the hand it was all still consecrated hands.

Regarding Cyril of Jerusalem’s quote, I believe Father Z addressed this once. It was a localized custom- in Rome as early as the 100’s there were writings that suggested laity were not even allowed to touch the vessels that carried communion.
 
Please provide the source for your statement concerning the Holy See and there is not a right to receive in the hand. When he was in New York at the Mass he celebrated the Mass and gave communion in the hand and most of the recipients were clergy or nuns.
Redemptionis Sacramentum
[92.] Although each of the faithful always has the right to receive Holy Communion on the tongue, at his choice,[178] if any communicant should wish to receive the Sacrament in the hand, in areas where the Bishops’ Conference with the recognitio of the Apostolic See has given permission, the sacred host is to be administered to him or her.
Note that Communion in the hand requires both the consent of the local bishops conference AND a recognitio by the Vatican. It is an Indult, and as such, it can be denied for several reasons.

In addition, the majority of bishop’s conferences in the world have chosen not to adopt it, so if you travel internaltionally, especially to Latin American, don’t assume you can recieve in the hand. In fact, assume otherwise.

So in other words, you are allowed to recieve in the hand in the US and several other countries under particular circumstances. You have no right to do so.
 
It was evident it was allowed in the US by the Pope’s distribution of the host when he celebrated Mass in New York. This to me, means there are two acceptable forms of receiving.

I think Cardinal Ratzinger provided some insight on this in his quote below.
“But you will ask: is tolerance the proper answer here? Or is it not misplaced with respect to this most holy thing? Well, here again we know that until the nineth century Communion was received in the hand standing… the Church could not have possibly been celebrating the Eucharist unworthily for nine hundred years.”
The Pope, as everyone, has a right to change his mind. If he decrees one form over the other, I and I’m sure all Catholics will conform.

Until such a time, I believe Cardinal Ratzinger’s statement as quoted below correctly states our obligation not to argue one way over the other.
Anyone who reflects on this will recognize that on this point it is quite wrong to argue about this or that form of behavior. We should be concerned only to argue in favor of what the Church’s efforts were directed toward, both before and after the ninth century, that is a reverence in the heart, an inner submission before the mystery of God that puts himself into our hands. Thus we should not forget that not only our hands are impure but also our tongue and also our heart and that we often sin more with the tongue than with the hands. God takes an enormous risk–and at the same time this is an expression of his merciful goodness–in allowing not only our hand and our tongue but even our heart to come into contact with him.
Maybe I’m wrong, but it seems to me that with what I’ve bolded and underlined above, Cardinal Ratzinger saw these arguments as divisive and we all know from the Holy Father’s message of unity and schisms of the past, that we should be working to bring us closer together in our faith.

It really saddens me to see multiple posts on this subject with some posts deriding one form or the other. Those type posts remind me of the story of the publican and the Pharisee.

Luk 18:10 Two men went up into the temple to pray: the one a Pharisee and the other a publican.
Luk 18:11 The Pharisee standing, prayed thus with himself: O God, I give thee thanks that I am not as the rest of men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, as also is this publican.
Luk 18:12 I fast twice in a week: I give tithes of all that I possess.
Luk 18:13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not so much as lift up his eyes towards heaven; but struck his breast, saying: O God, be merciful to me a sinner.
Luk 18:14 I say to you, this man went down into his house justified rather than the other: because every one that exalteth himself shall be humbled: and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

Reverence towards our Lord is not measured by outward actions but with what is in one’s heart. We, as men, are not to judge one another nor should we presuppose we can think like God. What I’m saying is, we as men cannot see in to another’s heart.

Whether people believe it or not, we belong to a hierarchal Church. In my opinion, we the laity, should submit to the Magisterium and quit trying to impose our private interpretations of faith upon them. To trust in them is trusting in the Church, which is trusting in Christ.

I just returned from the Shrine that Mother Angelica built in Hanceville, Alabama. We attended Mass in the Chapel below the Shrine and received communion at the rail. We also attended a Mass at the Sacred Heart Church in Cullman, Alabama where we received communion standing and on the tongue. The day we left, we attended Mass at a very small Catholic Church in Hanceville, Alabama. Again, we received communion standing and on the tongue. I’d normally receive in the hand but would like to explain that which made me receive on the tongue. In those three Masses, the priest and deacons held up a paten below the host. In my Church at home, the priest or Eucharistic ministers do not offer up a paten to catch any possible “crumbs”.

Personally, out of all the experiences I have shared above, I do not see one way as more reverent over the other as my heart is focused on the Lord coming to abide in me as He states in scriptures. It is very rarely that I notice what someone else is doing in their reception of host and then I feel somewhat guilty over allowing myself to be distracted.

I feel it’s safe to say, when in Rome, do as the Romans do, with the caveat that you are giving yourself fully and trusting in the Lord and your actions are allowed by our Holy Spirit protected Church.

I am about to receive Eucharist Minister training for the purposes of taking the host to shut-ins. I would defer this to the ordained but our area does not have the luxury of multiple ordained. Our Church has one priest and no deacons.

God Bless
 
Tell me Prodigal Son1, do you have a deep and thorough understanding of the EF?
 
It was evident it was allowed in the US by the Pope’s distribution of the host when he celebrated Mass in New York. This to me, means there are two acceptable forms of receiving.
Yes, in the United States, under certain circumstances, there are two forms that are allowed.

My post did not deny that, in fact, I specifically said so.

But it would be erronous for someone to think that they have a Canonical RIGHT to recieve the Eucharist in the hand. It is an indult specifically granted to certain countries, under certain circumstances.

That is all I am saying.
 
Tell me Prodigal Son1, do you have a deep and thorough understanding of the EF?
I would not consider my understanding as deep and thorough. I only get to experience the Tridentine Mass once a year in my own parish and other times when I travel to more populated areas. (I live in such a remote country area deep in the Bible belt, I often joke I am Southern Catholic. 🙂 )

I have been unemployed for a year now and have been studying everything I possibly can (and stay married ;)).

What in particular do you wish to educate me on?

May the peace of the Lord be with you,
Prodigal Son1
 
Regarding the Last Supper, considering all the Apostles were bishops even if Communion was distributed in the hand it was all still consecrated hands.
At what point did the Apostles become Bishops and their hands conscecrated?
 
At what point did the Apostles become Bishops and their hands conscecrated?
Presumably when they were TOLD to prepare the table and when they washed their hands before the meal (no self-respecting Jew would fail to wash his hands before the Passover meal!).

But seriously, I personally see nothing wrong with taking communion in the hand. In the Traditional Anglican church most parishoners choose to receive in the hand. The only requirement is that it be placed into the hands of a baptized, confirmed believer who acknowledges the Real Presence. After all, we’re not touching Christ, He is touching us! If my hands weren’t clean before the wafer touches them, they BECOME CLEAN at that moment anyway! See Matt. 8:3, Mark 1:41, Luke 5:13.

We also ALWAYS kneel at communion rails. It IS faster. And as for the idea that an old priest might have difficulty walking up and down the rail… well our priest is in his late 80’s and he has no trouble at all.
 
I would not consider my understanding as deep and thorough. I only get to experience the Tridentine Mass once a year in my own parish and other times when I travel to more populated areas. (I live in such a remote country area deep in the Bible belt, I often joke I am Southern Catholic. 🙂 )

I have been unemployed for a year now and have been studying everything I possibly can (and stay married ;)).

What in particular do you wish to educate me on?

May the peace of the Lord be with you,
Prodigal Son1
I used to feel the exact same way you do. Then, I get a glimpse of the past through the Tridentine Mass. I started to study it. I serve at one every week now. I still go to a Novus Ordo Mass with my wife. I have no quarrels with that Mass itself. I look at the Catholic attitude of the past. It has changed so drastically. You have to know the Tridentine Mass inimately to understand this. The Catholic attitude of the past that indured so long cannot be wrong. This is an attitude from the time of at least the Council of Trent, which interestingly enough, 90% of our modern catachism is quoting. You begin to wonder how, in the span of not even a decade the Catholic attitude toward the Blessed Sacrament can change so drastically after organically growing in one direction for centuries.

Luke
 
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