Communion in the Hand

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The obvious solution for you is to keep your hands clasped in front of you, open wide, and stick out your tongue. If you pay attention, you’ll figure out the traffic pattern and can sit in the section that lines up for the priest, if you have a problem with EMHCs.

It will shock and amaze the people who vilify Cardinal Mahony and criticize the Raj Mahal, but at the Cathedral in Los Angeles, probably 20-25% of the communicants receive on the tongue. I’ve even, on a few occasions, seen someone drop to his knees to receive. There was no scene; no scoldings; the EMHC didn’t even blink.

Now, for the OP: what happens if SSPX gets regularized with Rome? Will the OF still be sinful? Or will you jump to the SSPX- SO? Or as one friend of mine posted on his blog:
At some point we might see an SSPX of the Even Stricter Observance, shortly before the foundation of the SSPX of the Much Stricter than the Others Observance, from whose ranks will emerge in due course the founder of the Strictest Ever SSPX: Accept No Substitutes Observance.
 
Ok, so I believe that receiving on the tongue from the priest is the most reverent way to receive the precious Body of Christ. However, as Catholics we are to be obedient to the Pope and the Magisterium. If the Pope has deemed it acceptable for those in America to receive in the hand, then why are so many here and elsewhere judging those who choose to do so???
I don’t see people judging people who receive CITH. I see people making sound objective statements against CITH, which started out as an abuse. The Holy Father, and many of the higher ups in the Church have said that the most proper way of receiving communion is on the tongue. Those who argue that in the past communion was received in the hand, neglect to mention that it was not directly received in the hand, but rather on a special cloth that was only used to receive communion and the fragments were collected into it. Those who don’t believe that the hosts leave fragments should observe the communion paten that the altar boy places under the chin of the communicant. Every one I’ve seen has had significant fragments on it. They’re difficult to see on the floor or in your hand because of the lack of color contrast, but it’s blatantly obvious on a gold paten.
 
Hello.
I’m being received into the Catholic Church shortly, but I’m having very grave difficulties with ‘communion in the hand’. I’d describe myself as a traditionalist & I’d attend the Tridentine Mass, increasingly strongly the SSPX, whom I have a great deal of sympathy for, but the nearest SSPX chapel is four hours drive away, the nearest Tridentine Mass is about three hours and two ferry trips away. Both of these are practically impossible as I can’t drive! The Novus Ordo parish, which I presently attend though of course do not receive, I am told, is a thoroughly reverent one as they go (no EMHC, no guitars, no liturgical abuses save communion in the hand).

I know the SSPX considers the Novus Ordo an objective sacrilege and a sin that ought to be confessed (vide their American website). I do not know about this - I’d have surely to fulfill the obligation on Sundays?, but I have grave difficulties with the practice of ‘communion in the hand’. I cannot shake a very strong suspicion it is sacrilegeous. I’ve asked; and been given what I am told is the official defence of the practice, that it was the practice of the Primitive Church, or more accurately of the Apostles. I cannot quiet my conscience in this regard - knowing I am having doubts about whether the Novus Ordo is a sacrilege (that is, they teach it is valid but displeasing to God) as the SSPX teach; and having grievous doubts about Communion in the Hand, what should I do? My instruction has been very orthodox, I’m very lucky, but I am still gravely, gravely concerned.
Communion in the hand is a licit and reverant way to receive communion and the OF (Ordinary Form of the Mass) is a licit and valid form of the Mass just as the EF is. Communion in the Hand is not sacrilegious, nor is it a liturgical abuse.

That’s essentially the end of discussion because the Magisterium of the Church has spoken so. The SSPX does not have any authority to suggest otherwise because they do not have a canonical place in the Church. It’s a pretty simple answer in this case: the Church is right, and the SSPX is wrong.
Stick your tongue out. That is the correct way to do it - our blessed Lord’s body is too sacred to touch our unconsecrated hands (unless absolutely necessary).
This is not, and has never been, Catholic doctrine. Deacons are ordinary minister of Holy Communion (they distribute the Body as ordinary, not extraordinary, ministers) and their hands are not consecrated.

I realize that some people have read this from the Summa, but there something important to realize: Angelic Doctor though he was, not everything that St. Thomas Aquinas ever uttered was sacred infallible doctrine. In this case he was simply mistaken; the Church never accepted this position as doctrine.
Yes you can tell. And of course not even a saint can touch it, you’re right. Saint Thomas Aquinas taught that “out of reverence for this Sacrament, nothing touches it but what is consecrated.” Thus, he said the sacred vessels of the altar are consecrated for this holy purpose, but also, the priest’s hands are consecrated for touching this Sacrament. And St. Thomas said that it is therefore not lawful for anyone else to touch it, except to save it from desecration. (Summa, III, Q. 82. Art. 3)
And as I have said, this position was never accepted by the Church as doctrine, so your appeal is simply to a pious theological opinion, nothing more. And one that was explicitly rejected at that.
Every fragment of the Host, no matter how minuscule, contains Jesus Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity.
How can we be sure that there are not particles of our Lord left on our hands after receiving? (This has been discussed on these forums in the past.)
It’s pretty simple actually: If you can’t see bread (the accidents of), then there’s no Jesus. A small spec that is indistinguishable from dust is not bread, it is dust, and thus not Jesus.
I am deeply ashamed for daring to question the Pope and for how I am thinking - although I was quoting the SSPX position on the NO being sacriligeous, which I have not firmly decided upon myself - the doubts and being tossed about by it are a bit of a torture for my conscience. I started my instruction with submission and I do try to be obedient, but as I read more and more I am wracked with doubt - simply, taking only one rather egregious example, how can the Church in 1961 be the same as that of Assisi? Would any of the Popes from Saint Peter to now have permitted pagans and heretics to ‘pray’ in a Catholic church?
Ok, we’ll move to being blunt.

The question is very, extremely simple: Do you believe that Jesus Christ founded the Catholic Church on the foundation of the Pope and promised to send the Holy Spirit to protect Her until the end of time? Or do you believe that Jesus was a liar, and would allow His Bride, founded on Peter as the visible Head of the Body (to stand in for, to be the Vicar for, the Invisible Head) to be led into heresy?

Where did Jesus ever say or where does Tradition ever say that the Holy Spirit would ever deceive people by first appointing Peter as the foundation and then abandoning him and appointing some small group as the “real” Church? That’s not Jesus, that’s not Tradition, and that’s not Catholicism: that’s Protestantism (and I say that because you will see the exact same argument from Evangelicals. How ironic that the SSPX accuses the Church of borrowing from Protestantism when they’ve borrowed almost their entire M.O. from them). And that’s borderline Gnosticism.
 
And here is Francis Cardinal Arinze, who knows a little bit about the subject:
youtube.com/watch?v=Ap1KL2D5ae4

I say re-install the altar rails whenever and wherever possible. Whether EF or OF, have the congregration receive kneeling, at the altar, thereby eliminating the EMHC’s altogether. Administering the Eucharist in this manner may take a bit longer- though I’m not even sure about that, because most priests and the people quickly become very efficient with moving it along. And even if it does keep people at Mass a few minutes longer, so what? Does anyone have somewhere better to be?
 
And here is Francis Cardinal Arinze, who knows a little bit about the subject:
youtube.com/watch?v=Ap1KL2D5ae4

I say re-install the altar rails whenever and wherever possible. Whether EF or OF, have the congregration receive kneeling, at the altar, thereby eliminating the EMHC’s altogether. Administering the Eucharist in this manner may take a bit longer- though I’m not even sure about that, because most priests and the people quickly become very efficient with moving it along. And even if it does keep people at Mass a few minutes longer, so what? Does anyone have somewhere better to be?
I agree with everything that you say here. It wish it were so in every parish. But this is not about what you or I would like to see. This is about what the Magisterium has deemed acceptable in the U.S. So again I ask, why do so many who are supposed to be obedient Catholics have a problem with those who are doing what the Magisterium has deemed acceptable?
 
I agree with everything that you say here. It wish it were so in every parish. But this is not about what you or I would like to see. This is about what the Magisterium has deemed acceptable in the U.S. So again I ask, why do so many who are supposed to be obedient Catholics have a problem with those who are doing what the Magisterium has deemed acceptable?
I wish I had an answer.
 
And here is Francis Cardinal Arinze, who knows a little bit about the subject:
youtube.com/watch?v=Ap1KL2D5ae4

I say re-install the altar rails whenever and wherever possible. Whether EF or OF, have the congregration receive kneeling, at the altar, thereby eliminating the EMHC’s altogether. Administering the Eucharist in this manner may take a bit longer- though I’m not even sure about that, because most priests and the people quickly become very efficient with moving it along. And even if it does keep people at Mass a few minutes longer, so what? Does anyone have somewhere better to be?
I wish I had an answer.
And I wish things were like they used to be, even though that was before my time, but if we believe that Benedict XVI is our legitimate Pope, and I certainly do, then I thought that it was our obligation as “good Catholics” to respect the decisions that he and his fellow bishops make. If not, we will become like the Protestants, accepting every wind of teaching that suits our personal dispositions. So while Communion in the hand is not my personal preference,as a “good Catholic” I am obligated to respect the decision of the those who decide that this is how they choose to receive Holy Communion (in the USA of course). This obedience is a large part of what it means to be Catholic!
 
fisheaters is a dangerous site if one is new to to the Church and an occasion of sin for some others . they present the faith in a very crude and and i would say borderline pornographic manner .they seem very proud of allowing the use of the F-bomb and racist language .
:rotfl:
 
To the OP:

Never receive in the hand. It is an absolutely shameful practice and will almost certainly be reversed in the future 🙂
 
To the OP:

Never receive in the hand. It is an absolutely shameful practice and will almost certainly be reversed in the future 🙂
who are you to condemn what the Church allows?
 
who are you to condemn what the Church allows?
The Church condemned it for centuries. It has been allowed in a few locales by way of indult, and even then only because people had begun the practice in disobedience to their bishops.

I simply await a return to normalcy.
 
want to let us know whats so funny?
Your caricature of a post. Vox, the site owner, tries to clamp down on any unnecessary swearing and certainly any racism. I’ve yet to see a more disingenuous description of FE. And so I laughed.
 
And I wish things were like they used to be, even though that was before my time, but if we believe that Benedict XVI is our legitimate Pope, and I certainly do, then I thought that it was our obligation as “good Catholics” to respect the decisions that he and his fellow bishops make. If not, we will become like the Protestants, accepting every wind of teaching that suits our personal dispositions. So while Communion in the hand is not my personal preference,as a “good Catholic” I am obligated to respect the decision of the those who decide that this is how they choose to receive Holy Communion (in the USA of course). This obedience is a large part of what it means to be Catholic!
I have read, anecdotally, that a return to altar rails is on the rise in some areas. They are certainly not forbidden, it’s more up to the parish and perhaps, ocal bishop. If you watch the clip with Cardinal Arinze, he makes it clear that it is not disobedient to receive on the tongue, or to kneel while receiving. No priest or bishop can forbid you to do so, in the USA or anywhere else.
 
The Church condemned it for centuries. It has been allowed in a few locales by way of indult, and even then only because people had begun the practice in disobedience to their bishops.

I simply await a return to normalcy.
so all we have to do is disobey our Bishops and and the Church will allow it with a indult ,fascinating .
 
Against the idea that communion in the hand is a novelty, I would quote Cyril of Jerusalem, Catechetical Lecture 23:

“In approaching therefore, come not with your wrists extended, or your fingers spread; but make your left hand a throne for the right, as for that which is to receive a King. And having hollowed your palm, receive the Body of Christ, saying over it, Amen. So then after having carefully hallowed your eyes by the touch of the Holy Body, partake of it; giving heed lest you lose any portion thereof ; for whatever you lose, is evidently a loss to you as it were from one of your own members.”

However, it is clear that the modern practice has led to abuses and has helped diminish faith in the reality of the Eucharist. We should also remember that communion in the hand is an indult and not the normal practice of the Church. Because of this I believe that bishops should prohibit communion in the hand.
 
Vox didn’t post that. She is also one person and doesn’t read every post made on the website.

If you want to describe individual members a certain way, go ahead. For example, there are unabashed heretics here on CAF. That doesn’t make the whole forum heretical.

Glad I could clarify that for you :tiphat:
 
It will shock and amaze the people who vilify Cardinal Mahony and criticize the Raj Mahal, but at the Cathedral in Los Angeles, probably 20-25% of the communicants receive on the tongue. I’ve even, on a few occasions, seen someone drop to his knees to receive. There was no scene; no scoldings; the EMHC didn’t even blink.
Raj Mahal?😉 Hadn’t heard that one before!

Personally, I’m a big fan of the OLA Cathedral. You just got me wondering, however- has an EF Mass ever been celebrated there? I suppose they could set up for one, they would just have to rope off the side and behind seating areas.
 
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