Communion in the hand

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well, i’m man enough to say that if the mother theresa quote is wrong, then i stand corrected on quoting her. however, my opinion of communion in the hand is not swayed. i think it has lent itself to many abuses, and i would not be upset if the indult allowing this practice was revoked (just like BXVI revoked the indult to allow EMHCs to purify vessels after Mass).
I agree with many points in your post, I leave it to you to decide which ones they may be;)
but then that is just my humble opinion
 
That blog is incorrect. First off where can he cite proof that Mother Theresa denounced that. Secondly regarding to alleged private revelations where Our Lady speaks against communion on the hand, he says, *nor Our Lady would council disobedience to the Magisterium of the Church. As for the claims of apparitions concerning this practice, this is in fact one of the first thing the Church looks at when verifying apparitions and it make perfect sense. After all, if the apparition encourages disobedience to the Church then it is obviously not genuine. *

It is NOT the Magisterial teachings of the faith that Communion on the hand is mandated. To say that one should receive communion on the tongue is NOT encouraging disobedience.

If that were so then any apparition that says to pray the rosary daily is encouraging disobedience as no one is obliged to pray the rosary daily.
Where can anyone cite credible proof that she said it?

Of course, it’s not magisterial teaching that one must receive in the hand. It is, however, a discipline of the Church that is protected by a negative infallibility, ie, the Church cannot approve a discipline that will lead the faithful into impiety.

As for the rosary, that’s two seperate things. “You should say the rosary daily” (a prayer commended by the Church to the faithful) and “you should only receive on the tongue” (regarding a practice permitted by the Church, a liberty she grants) are distinctly different. The former is just commending a particular devotion, the latter is an attempt to constrain the conscience of the faithful where the Church has given them the liberty to choose. The latter implies that the Church is wrong.

There’s one way to settle this: recieve on the tongue if it pleases you to do so. I do, as an act of reparation for the disunity among the faithful. But I don’t believe Mother Teresa said it (I’ve never seen it reported by a credible source, ie, outside radical traditionalist sites) and I don’t believe the Blessed Mother of God opposes it (indeed, several sites that come up when you google “Mother Teresa and communion in the hand” mention the Bayside apparitions, which are NOT approved by the Church).
 
several sites that come up when you google “Mother Teresa and communion in the hand” mention the Bayside apparitions, which are NOT approved by the Church).
Oh please, you’re making me whoosy this morning.
You know how much I DETEST those unapproved apparitions!!!

If I heard one more of those “When I was in Conyers, GA” or “In Medjugorje they…” stories one more time from my hubby’s RCIA class, I was going to give the Good Deacon running it a piece of my mind!!!

Yipes!
 
Oh please, you’re making me whoosy this morning.
You know how much I DETEST those unapproved apparitions!!!

If I heard one more of those “When I was in Conyers, GA” or “In Medjugorje they…” stories one more time from my hubby’s RCIA class, I was going to give the Good Deacon running it a piece of my mind!!!

Yipes!
Yes, ya gotta be careful.

The Holy Father recently extended the indult for Communion in the hand to Poland.

rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2007/01/before-wielgus.html
 
The Mother T. quote was referenced by Fr. George William Rutler, Good Friday, 1989, sermon at St. Agnes Church, New York City.

catholic-pages.com/mass/inhand.asp

But it’s the only one I could find that was not connected with one of THOSE sites.
 
Perhaps it was never requested by the conference of bishop’s there. Indults are usually only granted after being requested by the local bishop’s.
Yikes!
I hope it wasn’t the Bishop that had to step down!
 
Can someone please supply me with a VATICAN link (not some blokes website …) that states Poland was given an indult to recieve in the hand…
I am having a hard time finding a verifiable copy of this document!
Or did I miss something and this is all a BIG JOKE?!
 
Can someone please supply me with a VATICAN link (not some blokes website …) that states Poland was given an indult to recieve in the hand…
I am having a hard time finding a verifiable copy of this document!
Or did I miss something and this is all a BIG JOKE?!
I just did a Google search myself and can’t find anything but this blog.
Can someone else help?

Off to Gym then we are having the Garage Door fixed so it will be a while!
 
Can someone please supply me with a VATICAN link (not some blokes website …) that states Poland was given an indult to recieve in the hand…
I am having a hard time finding a verifiable copy of this document!
Or did I miss something and this is all a BIG JOKE?!
The blog is a “traditionalist” blog. It is routinely cited on these forums by Catholics who self-identify as “traditionalists.” It provides the document in full. Look at the title, then take the title to the Vatican search engine if you have any doubts.
 
The blog is a “traditionalist” blog. It is routinely cited on these forums by Catholics who self-identify as “traditionalists.” It provides the document in full. Look at the title, then take the title to the Vatican search engine if you have any doubts.
I tried that…I can not seem to find it still:o
 
Where can anyone cite credible proof that she said it?

Of course, it’s not magisterial teaching that one must receive in the hand. It is, however, a discipline of the Church that is protected by a negative infallibility, ie, the Church cannot approve a discipline that will lead the faithful into impiety.

As for the rosary, that’s two seperate things. “You should say the rosary daily” (a prayer commended by the Church to the faithful) and “you should only receive on the tongue” (regarding a practice permitted by the Church, a liberty she grants) are distinctly different. The former is just commending a particular devotion, the latter is an attempt to constrain the conscience of the faithful where the Church has given them the liberty to choose. The latter implies that the Church is wrong.

There’s one way to settle this: recieve on the tongue if it pleases you to do so. I do, as an act of reparation for the disunity among the faithful. But I don’t believe Mother Teresa said it (I’ve never seen it reported by a credible source, ie, outside radical traditionalist sites) and I don’t believe the Blessed Mother of God opposes it (indeed, several sites that come up when you google “Mother Teresa and communion in the hand” mention the Bayside apparitions, which are NOT approved by the Church).
I can’t find a credible source as of yet that indicated Mother Theresa had said that.

However in the Church approved apparitions Our Lady has said “Pray the rosary daily”. Now to some people that suggestion can be very easily interpreted a commandment. I mean anything that Our Lady says is really coming from God and if God would appear to us and ask us to pray the rosary how many of us would not do it?

Communion on the hand has a very dubious history. First off its an indult and considering it was done very disobediently and is now mainstream in the church it has a bad feel to it.
 
Here is the documentation from 350 AD:

catholicfaithandreason.org/fathersoneucharist.htm

scroll down to the second to last paragraph on the first page.

I am interested in everyone’s thoughts. I hope we all remain true to Christ’s Sacred Heart by having a rational and respectful conversation about His Most Blessed Sacrament!!!

Let His Peace Reign Over Us,

maurin
Yet another rationalization of the receiving in the hand practice being true to the erlay church and thus more deserving. So once again, I will delve into my bag of little known and les publicized secrets and hope as always that someone pays attention.

Yes, they did receive in the hand in the early church. No doubt, they did it. TA DA

They did it because the Host was taken home for consumption during the week. A small piece might be consumed at the altar or at the meeting place but the bulk was taken home, wrapped in white cloth usually so mice would not eat it and eaten during the week. What was received was normally a loaf, not an individual size portion for lack of a better word. The faithful brought bread, it was communally consecrated and then distributed to one and all. Gradually the faithful stopped bringing bread and gave cash instead and the Deacons would buy the bread. With an eye towards economy perhaps, portions being distributed got smaller and smaller.

Perhaps for that reason or maybe because of the many heresies floating around that denied the Real Presence, the Church went to having the faithful receive on the tongue in an effort to re-enforce in the minds of the faithful the reality of the Real Presence. Interesting huh?

So the early church had a valid reason for receiving in the hand. A valid, logical reason that made perfect sense… I do not think we have the same situation today. But if we ever do go back to bringing the Host home, I’ll make a killing with all the white cloth I’ve bought up for just that purpose.
 
What makes me sad that when I go to a Roman Mass (novus ordo) the “extra ordinary” minister barely gets on target when I take by the mouth. This last Christmas I went to take by the mouth and the woman not sure what to do, put the host on the very very tip of my lip so of course Christ fell on the floor :eek: . I imidiatly picked It up - the woman offered another one (as if the one in my hand was bad:mad: ) I said no and ate It. After that little horror show I think when at Latin churches in the future I will take by the hand to avoid the potential of desecration.
 
When I was still in my country, Vietnam, we received the communion only by tongue. When I came here, at first I received by tongue, then later adapted the method of using hand - I personally thought it was convenient".

Ten years later, I switch back to using tongue only. It is more sacred this way.
 
One does have to wonder why all the “allowances” surrounding licit disciplines? What does the Church or others gain by allowing communion in the hand? What was the motivation for this? I recieve in the hand primarily because it’s what I’ve been taught and no one recieves on the tongue in my Parish and I’m afraid I would scare the EMHC. But I would just assume have everyone recieve on the tongue for the sake of unity. You don’t have all these differences and changes going on in the Eastern Churches.

I’ve been to other Churches in the past, where some people bow before recieveing, some genuflect, some recieve on their knees, some take it in the hand etc… It’s like why can’t there simply be one way of recieving for clarity?
 
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