I agree wholeheartedly with the first half of this post…thanks James. However, if I see someone self-communicate I wonder why would one be so disobedient and presumptious? (That is literally what goes through my head.)
As do I. Since the 1950s
I can understand feeling that way, because I sometimes do also,
So I guess it really depends what side you are on as to what is presumptious and disobedient.
Well Spoken, I often think I feel the Mass differently in general than some. I feel an interaction with God occuring, for an everlasting moment time enters into eternity, and eternity into time. So yes I agree.
Pius XII simply declared that something is not good simply because it was used in ancient times. This is an argument against those who claim that the TLM is the only acceptable form of the Mass, because it is ancient. Pius XII was the pope of innovation, not the conservation by every means.I don’t like to see communion in the hand, because I have SEEN that the priest and the extraordinary ministers of holy communion (who happen to be quite ordinary and really unnecessary) not even check to see that the person consumes the host in their presence, something that HAS to happen: Last Christmas, they found SIX Consecrated hosts stuffed between the leaves of the music issue! People went up to receive in the hand just to save face!
I know people who have seen women try and put the host in their purse, and that just throws me off on a satanist tangent I won’t even go into…
It’s not intrinsically wrong, but it TENDS toward abuse. Satan isn’t dealing in outright heresies these days, he is dealing in TENDENCIES, things that aren’t really BAD, but definitely lend themselves to greater abuse. If Anything could even be conceived of as less than what our Lord deserves, why do it? And if the Church in its past history developed AWAY from this process, what are we doing trying to bring back the ancient church in an INORGANIC method? Pope Pius XII Condemned this kind of patchwork quilt theology and ecclesiology in Mediator Dei. Explicitly:
That’s how it makes me feel
- “The same reasoning holds in the case of some persons who are bent on the restoration of all the ancient rites and ceremonies indiscriminately. The liturgy of the early ages is most certainly worthy of all veneration. But ancient usage must not be esteemed more suitable and proper, either in its own right or in its significance for later times and new situations, on the simple ground that it carries the savor and aroma of antiquity.”
The only reason such topic gets contentious is when someone comes in and says, “I receive COTT and anyone who receives CITH displeases the Lord.” If we all recognize that the Church herself gave us the option to choose and we can freely choose either and everything is in accordance with Church teaching, including all gestures of reverence (genuflection, profound bowing, etc.) then there shouldn’t be any problem.
You are talking about two separate things, COTT and kneeling. COTT is an expected behavior. The thing that catches the eye is the rare person who kneels in the line when the expectation is that the person will stand. It would not catch the eye if kneeling were the norm for the parish/area/country.
I appreciate the hand sanitizers. After all, I wash my hands before I eat, and my hands are not usually filthy before I wash them. It only makes sense to have someone cleanse their hands before they put the host in my mouth.
All in all I am not a fan of the EMHC distributing the Sacrament but I have no real choice in most places.Call me naive, but I feel that I would not contact any disease through the Consecrated Eucharist. I just do not feel that the Body of Christ would become a host for anything impure.
The only kneeling people I’ve encountered in the standing communion lines have been fast about it. As the person behind them, I just have to pay attention to their movements to avoid them. That is what I find distracting. I haven’t noticed that the ones who kneel are in any danger of ploughing into the cup line. If I knelt, I *would *be a risk to others. I assume anyone like myself refuses to kneel, lest they endanger the Eucharist by careening about.I read here someone that said they always kneel and receive regardless of where they receive. I was wondering how that would work in a communion line, one would have to wait for the person before them to move and then kneel down and receive then get up and move on, this would seemingly take some time in all but the most fit persons, and would most likely not be an option in a crowded setting as in many parishes where there is a priest with an EMHC beside him and two lines in front of the altar and several other lines for reception of the Sacrament. The norm any more is as I said both the priest and EMHC in front of the altar and then to the right and left of the pews on each side another EMHC, and often a few more dispersed with a chalice offering the Blood Species, seems like a good chance of tripping another communicant as you usually have to turn around and proceed back the way you came up to receive as the other lines that have formed.
Has anyone ever seen really young EMHC’s, I have seen some that I feel like asking to see their ID as they look to young to drive.
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I believe that if you want to see it done on something of a regular basis, just watch the Mass on EWTN. I don’t watch it often but I seem to recall seeing people kneel to receive several times on there. Granted it is a small service in the Chapel, but…
Well - Due to my wife’s infirmaty we sit tin the very first pew now and I can tell you that I have seen many collisions and near collisions at communion - And nobody is kneeling to receive…It’s usually just because everybody is in too big of a hurry or not looking. If kneeling is seen as too much of a distraction, how much more so is the free-for-all that constitutes the normal, run of the mill communion distribution at most parishes I’ve seen.
No - I have never seen an EHMC that seemed, or looked, too young. I try not to consider this since The pastor is in charge of these people and I trust the pastor.Has anyone ever seen really young EMHC’s, I have seen some that I feel like asking to see their ID as they look to young to drive.
), but now, I choose to receive on the tongue. It just feels right for me. I’m a more traditional person.I agree, it just that i personally has grown a sense that it feels wrong to recieve it standing in the hand, as i feel constantly rude and respectless. But i need some directions so i can do this correctly without making apperance like som mars-a-like creature causing long communion lines…Hi everyone,
I was taught to receive on the hand (I’m 32, and attended a very liberal parish. Felt banners n’ guitars.
As far as others, it doesn’t affect me either way. The Church permits both forms at the moment, so I don’t really think it’s my business to pass judgment on other people.
God Bless.
Padraig,
Actually, I have never seen anyone receive kneeling while in the line, as opposed to in the pew. There is one lady who genuflects just before she gets to the priest, but she stands up again to receive COTT.