Communion only once a yeat before reformation

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Vince1022 said:
Really? Can you say more? My wife’s family is Lutheran, and I know many Lutherans, and none of them deny Martin Luther was Catholic. Thanks.
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In fact, Lutherans such as myself consider ourselves evangelical catholic. Catholic, but not currently in communion with Rome. This is why the OP’s story regarding the pamphlet was disturbing to me. We have some issues with the sacrifice of the Mass, and Luther had issues with private masses, etc. But I can’t imagine Luther referring to the celebration of the Mass as a “performance”.

Jon
 
JonNC said:
If in fact that pamphlet used the term “performance”, 2 comments;
  1. I would not consider it either respectful or accurate of what a Catholic priest does at the celebration of Mass. That terminology is crass at best.
  2. I, as a Lutheran, apologize to you that you were subjected to that pamphlet, prepared by the hands of people ostensibly Lutheran.
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Jon No prob man! Half of my family is Lutheran and I respect their beliefs and I LOVE the ZEAL they have for Christ. Either way its cool just wanted to clarify. Even though we may have our disagreements we love each other in Christ. peace be with you!
 
PLAT said:
I suppose there is no reason not to recieve the body of Christ nowadays, unless you are not a weekly Catholic. (wait… does anyone not go to church at least once a week?) Or if you know you have an unreonciled mortal sin…
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Also one should not receive if not observing the communion fast, or having the wrong attitude, which shold be for the purpose of pleasing God, or being more closely united with Him by charity, and of seeking this divine remedy for weaknesses and defects with the purpose of never sinning in future.
 
PLAT said:
I suppose there is no reason not to recieve the body of Christ nowadays, unless you are not a weekly Catholic. (wait… does anyone not go to church at least once a week?) Or if you know you have an unreonciled mortal sin.

The real presence thing is tricky though. Catholics believe in it, and almost all liturgal Christian denominations do (Wikipedia: Lutherean, Methodist, Anglican…). To me it only seems like the modern “reformed” protestants don’t.

How do you deal with accidental drops of the eucharist though? Some stories…
  1. A piece of consecrated bread is dropped. The EM took it, put it on my plate, and ate it afterwards.
  2. A EM told the MC there is a fly in the wine (I am not sure whether it has been consecrated), dead in the liquid (forgot to put the cover apparently…). The MC figured that it is alcohol, so it would kill the germs. He drank it. Nothing bad happened afterwards.
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I am not sure of the practice if the Host is dropped, but im an EMHC and we are told that if we even suspect we have spilt some of the Precious Blood of Christ, we must alert our Priest immediately, so he can use one of the purifiers (one of the wipes that you see the Priest or EMHC holding with the Chalice) to wipe the Precious Blood off the floor, and do it respectfully, so noone can tread in it.

Forgive me if my wording is wrong, but you get the jist

God Bless you
 
Sherry_G said:
Most Lutherans today will deny that Martin Luther was a Catholic brother.
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Wasn’t he a priest and not a brother? I wasn’t aware that he belonged to a religious community. Then again, I do not know much about him except that he began the reformation.
 
ConstantineTG said:
Wasn’t he a priest and not a brother? I wasn’t aware that he belonged to a religious community. Then again, I do not know much about him except that he began the reformation.
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Augustinian monk 1505
Ordained as a priest in 1507
Taught theology University of Wittenburg 1508
Doctor of Theology 1512
Excommunicated 1521
 
JonNC said:
In fact, Lutherans such as myself consider ourselves evangelical catholic. Catholic, but not currently in communion with Rome. This is why the OP’s story regarding the pamphlet was disturbing to me. We have some issues with the sacrifice of the Mass, and Luther had issues with private masses, etc. But I can’t imagine Luther referring to the celebration of the Mass as a “performance”.

Jon
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Thanks! Appreciate your comments.

But the question I asked was whether Lutherans consider Luther “Catholic” as you commented upon. You claimed most Lutherans would deny Luther was a “Catholic brother.”

In one sense, I could agree with that, as he was a Catholic priest, not a Catholic brother.

But I still don’t know what you meant by your comment, and all the Lutherans I know of course acknowledge the historical fact that Luther was a Catholic priest.
 
Vince1022 said:
Thanks! Appreciate your comments.

But the question I asked was whether Lutherans consider Luther “Catholic” as you commented upon. You claimed most Lutherans would deny Luther was a “Catholic brother.”

In one sense, I could agree with that, as he was a Catholic priest, not a Catholic brother.

But I still don’t know what you meant by your comment, and all the Lutherans I know of course acknowledge the historical fact that Luther was a Catholic priest.
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Actually, it was Sherry G who made that claim.
Originally Posted by Sherry G
Most Lutherans today will deny that Martin Luther was a Catholic brother.
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I guess I would need to know in what sense she means “brother”. He was an Augustinian friar. Beyond that, I would deny any of the catholicity of Fr. Martin.

Jon
 
JonNC said:
Actually, it was Sherry G who made that claim.

I guess I would need to know in what sense she means “brother”. He was an Augustinian friar. Beyond that, I would deny any of the catholicity of Fr. Martin.

Jon
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Thanks. Sorry for any misunderstanding. Guess we need to hear from Sherry.
 
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