Communion Patens

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When are they used? Just for regular Masses or only for Latin Masses?
 
Yes, they can be used any time, and should be!

By the way, it’s better to use another term besides “Latin” for the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite, since the Novus Ordo can be and always could be celebrated in Latin (actually that’s the norm, officially speaking, even though it’s rare in this country).
 
Where I am they are no longer used. Taking Eucharist in the hand means that the palm replaces it inasmuch as under normal circumstances the Host cannot be dropped excvept in the cupped hand.
 
White_Peony said:
When are they used? Just for regular Masses or only for Latin Masses?
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They are used so that no crumb of the consecrated host can fall to the ground. They are always used at the EF of Mass and should be used at the OF. At the ablution the priest carefully brushes the surface of the paten and deposits any crumbs into the chalice from which he drinks them. One of the problems with communion in the hand is that any crumbs are also deposited on the hand and are usually, although unintentionally brushed away and wind up on clothing or the floor.
 
My Parish always uses the Communion Patens. We have an Altar Rail.
 
Ideally they should be used at all masses. They are mandatory at EF masses and “should be retained” at OF masses. Essentially, however, that wording makes them entirely optional in OF masses. That needs to change, IMO.
 
When I receive in my hands, I always inspect my palm for small crumbs of the Host before I proceed to the Chalice. I also am in the habit of kissing the part of the palm of my hand that the Host had touched.
 
Communion on the tongue is the proper way to receive.

2 Cor 13:13
Eddy Barry
 
btw, I wasn’t aware that Communion pates were specifically “traditional” so I think it’s a bit odd to have this thread in the Trad forum.
 
Steady_Eddy said:
Communion on the tongue is the proper way to receive.

2 Cor 13:13
Eddy Barry
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You could switch the article from “the” to “a” and then you would be aligned with the list of the Church’s licit disciplines.
 
paduard said:
Where I am they are no longer used. Taking Eucharist in the hand means that the palm replaces it inasmuch as under normal circumstances the Host cannot be dropped excvept in the cupped hand.
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We still use them anyway in my parish.
 
YoungTradCath said:
Ideally they should be used at all masses. They are mandatory at EF masses
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I don’t believe that’s precisely true. I serve at EF Mass, and we use the book How to Serve by Dom Matthew Britt, OSB, re-published by TAN Books in partnership with the Canons Regular of St. John Cantius. According to Fr. Britt:
a) When It Is Held by the Communicants. According to an Instruction issued by the Congregation of the Sacraments (Mar. 26, 1929), the faithful are to use a metal plate which they hold under their chin while receiving Holy Communion. They pass the plate from hand to hand themselves. The server is not directed to have anything to do with it.
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**b) When It Is Held by the Server. **It has long been a custom in this country and apparently others, for the server to hold an unconsecrated paten under the chin of the person receiving Holy Communion…
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In answer to a question, the Congregation of the Sacraments (Oct., 1930) declared that the use of the paten as described above is in no way prohibited by the decree regarding the use of the communion plate.
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So, it is not required in the EF, however if a paten is not used, then the faithful must pass a communion plate instead. Using the paten is a wonderful local custom though, as it’s much easier – and safer – to have one server holding it the entire time. I’m always pleased to see it used at the OF Masses at our local Cathedral Parish as well!
 
IesumPerMariam said:
I don’t believe that’s precisely true. I serve at EF Mass, and we use the book How to Serve by Dom Matthew Britt, OSB, re-published by TAN Books in partnership with the Canons Regular of St. John Cantius. According to Fr. Britt:

So, it is not required in the EF, however if a paten is not used, then the faithful must pass a communion plate instead. Using the paten is a wonderful local custom though, as it’s much easier – and safer – to have one server holding it the entire time. I’m always pleased to see it used at the OF Masses at our local Cathedral Parish as well!
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Well, yes. But in practice the “Communion plate” is the same as a Communion paten. You can see one passed around between the altar boys at Communion in lots of EF videos on Youtube or in pics on the FSSP seminary website. I never really knew there was a physical difference between a Communion plate and a Communion paten in practice.
 
YoungTradCath said:
Well, yes. But in practice the “Communion plate” is the same as a Communion paten. You can see one passed around between the altar boys at Communion in lots of EF videos on Youtube or in pics on the FSSP seminary website. I never really knew there was a physical difference between a Communion plate and a Communion paten in practice.
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I must admit, I’ve never seen the “communion plate” method actually done. To my imagination, it would be far too chaotic, with everyone passing along the plate containing particles of Our Lord – too many chances for someone to drop it. Regardless, one way or the other, there must be something there to catch the particles. So, in that sense, yes you are absolutely correct then. It would be preferable if there were always a paten there to catch the particles in the OF as well (and as Summorum Pontificum spreads, the communion paten seems to spread as well – if it’s already available right there in the sacristy, why not use it?).
 
IesumPerMariam said:
I must admit, I’ve never seen the “communion plate” method actually done. To my imagination, it would be far too chaotic, with everyone passing along the plate containing particles of Our Lord – too many chances for someone to drop it. Regardless, one way or the other, there must be something there to catch the particles. So, in that sense, yes you are absolutely correct then. It would be preferable if there were always a paten there to catch the particles in the OF as well (and as Summorum Pontificum spreads, the communion paten seems to spread as well – if it’s already available right there in the sacristy, why not use it?).
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Because ideology often gets in the way of practicality!
 
Leon_Bloy said:
Yes, they can be used any time, and should be!

By the way, it’s better to use another term besides “Latin” for the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite, since the Novus Ordo can be and always could be celebrated in Latin (actually that’s the norm, officially speaking, even though it’s rare in this country).
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Yes, Ordinary Form (or OF) Mass and Extraordinary Form (or EF) Mass.
 
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