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yankeesouth
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Well if you wanted to be closer to your Faith then you should have refrained. Your daughter received a blessing at the end of the Mass.
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JimR-OCDS
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God is not your Lord alone, but Lord of all who are called to Him.
Your defensiveness is problematic in of itself.
The Church doesn’t need another saviour, we already have one.
Jim
Your defensiveness is problematic in of itself.
The Church doesn’t need another saviour, we already have one.
Jim
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JimR-OCDS
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Holy Communion is only for the Holy ?
Gee, excuse me if myself a sinner, chose to belong to the Church and receive Holy Communion.
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Gee, excuse me if myself a sinner, chose to belong to the Church and receive Holy Communion.
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JimR-OCDS
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Read 1 Corinthians 11:23-34.
St Paul was writing to the Church at Corinth where he learned that the Eucharistic Celebration, which was one in homes at that time, were being treated as a party with eating and drinking and where non-believers were attending and receiving the Eucharist.
It’s a far fetch to try and claim that a priest knows if a person is worthy to receive or not at a regular Mass and therefore correct in withholding Communion for this woman’s daughter.
Even Cardinal Dolan, when he was president of the USCCB, said he would never use the sacrament as a weapon to get people in line, when he was asked about refusing pro-choice Catholic politicians the sacrament,
Remember that when Jesus instituted the sacrament of the Holy Eucharist at the Last Supper, the Apostles were all sinners who had not attended any formal confession,
Jim
St Paul was writing to the Church at Corinth where he learned that the Eucharistic Celebration, which was one in homes at that time, were being treated as a party with eating and drinking and where non-believers were attending and receiving the Eucharist.
It’s a far fetch to try and claim that a priest knows if a person is worthy to receive or not at a regular Mass and therefore correct in withholding Communion for this woman’s daughter.
Even Cardinal Dolan, when he was president of the USCCB, said he would never use the sacrament as a weapon to get people in line, when he was asked about refusing pro-choice Catholic politicians the sacrament,
Remember that when Jesus instituted the sacrament of the Holy Eucharist at the Last Supper, the Apostles were all sinners who had not attended any formal confession,
Jim
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Spyridon
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I never said a Priest knows all the time.
But when he does, he should guard the Sacrament.
Are you aware martyrs have died preserving the sanctity of the Eucharist?
But when he does, he should guard the Sacrament.
Are you aware martyrs have died preserving the sanctity of the Eucharist?
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Kei
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Regardless of what you think, it is defined that it is sinful to recieve Holy Communion in a state of mortal sin.
It is grave matter and often considered one of if not the worst sins one can do.
It can be a cause for condemnation and curses, when the Eucharist should be a cause of graces, blessings, and salvation.
It is grave matter and often considered one of if not the worst sins one can do.
It can be a cause for condemnation and curses, when the Eucharist should be a cause of graces, blessings, and salvation.
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Spyridon
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@Kei
Wisdom!
Let us attend!
Wisdom!
Let us attend!
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PJM
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Here is WHY the Priest was just doing his DUTY [he was not being arbitrarily judgmental]
If the priest had information we don’t know about
1Cor.11 Verses 23 to 30
[23] For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread,
[24] and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, “This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.”
[25] In the same way also the cup, after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.”
[26] For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.
[27] Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord.
[28] Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup.
[29] For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself.
[30] That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died. [dead=spiritually]
Pray very much
PJM
If the priest had information we don’t know about
1Cor.11 Verses 23 to 30
[23] For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread,
[24] and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, “This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me.”
[25] In the same way also the cup, after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.”
[26] For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.
[27] Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord.
[28] Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup.
[29] For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself.
[30] That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died. [dead=spiritually]
Pray very much
PJM
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midori
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So-- I didn’t quite catch. When was your last confession? When was your last communion? When was your last Mass?
If you asked me those three questions, I could tell you my answers.
There’s a big difference between “I didn’t go to confession before Mass!” and “I last went to confession ten years ago!”
I’m sorry about your mother’s passing— but keep your feelings of wanting to be closer to your faith, and do things properly, in their proper order. A big part of Catholic teaching is that certain things are beneficial when used in the way they’re intended, but they’re equally harmful when misused in a way that’s not intended. I suspect the priest was trying to protect you.
If you asked me those three questions, I could tell you my answers.
There’s a big difference between “I didn’t go to confession before Mass!” and “I last went to confession ten years ago!”
I’m sorry about your mother’s passing— but keep your feelings of wanting to be closer to your faith, and do things properly, in their proper order. A big part of Catholic teaching is that certain things are beneficial when used in the way they’re intended, but they’re equally harmful when misused in a way that’s not intended. I suspect the priest was trying to protect you.
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Don_Ruggero
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The point is: a priest is not to do that in the midst of the procession for Communion.So-- I didn’t quite catch. When was your last confession? When was your last communion? When was your last Mass?
If you asked me those three questions, I could tell you my answers.
There’s a big difference between “I didn’t go to confession before Mass!” and “I last went to confession ten years ago!”
I’m sorry about your mother’s passing— but keep your feelings of wanting to be closer to your faith, and do things properly, in their proper order. A big part of Catholic teaching is that certain things are beneficial when used in the way they’re intended, but they’re equally harmful when misused in a way that’s not intended. I suspect the priest was trying to protect you.
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Don_Ruggero
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The Holy Father explains the matter quite well in Evangelii Gaudium:
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Don_Ruggero
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Not the way you are interpreting it.
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robertmidwest
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@(name removed by moderator)
I was curious about this too. Something seems fishy about the entire post.
I was curious about this too. Something seems fishy about the entire post.
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robertmidwest
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@espiishope247
Was this “service” a Mass?
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robertmidwest
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@Spyridon
I think our current pope might have said something about the church being a hospital to treat the wounded
Didn’t Jesus say something about the physician came to treat the sick not hang out with healthy.
I think our current pope might have said something about the church being a hospital to treat the wounded
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Don_Ruggero
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Precisely correct
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Spyridon
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How am I interpreting it in your opinion, Reverend Father?
What I mean by that is one must be reconciled to the Church via Sacramental Confession prior to reception of Communion.
What I mean by that is one must be reconciled to the Church via Sacramental Confession prior to reception of Communion.
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Fauken
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@Spyridon, where in her statement lead you to believe she hasn’t been to Confession in over a year? And in regards to Reconciliation, must it always be done before receiving communion?
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Xanthippe_Voorhees
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Because there are rules and there are ways to execute those rules.
As @don_ruggero has stated a Priest MUST protect the Holy Eucharist at all costs. However, the spot to do this is NOT in the Communion line, especially if a priest doesn’t know the language this person speaks.
What I’m guessing occurred is the priest followed the hearsay of a relative that he trusted and wanted to cause trouble. In this case, the priest was acting completely inappropriately to try to suss this out in the communion line as there are a number of better ways to deal with it. Perhaps the good Father could tell us how a priest could appropriately approach this…or what he would do if someone demanded that he not give Communion to a relative he did not know on hearsay.
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