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Brain
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well, you know its just bread…
really, just bread.
but i guess its a bit of a no-no if they ae doing it just to mock us.
really, just bread.
but i guess its a bit of a no-no if they ae doing it just to mock us.
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Catholic29
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Thats what I figured, anyone should admit it is in bad taste.
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BlestOne
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Let’s be charitable and just say; They are sublimating, perhaps for a lack(of the real presence) in their lives. We should be praying for them…
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mikew262
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As long as they are not consecrated, who cares?
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IanS
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I afraid I must disagree. I don’t want to start a debate, but this is just my observation. What I look at is “intent”. Would these snacks exist if the Holy Eucharist did not exist? Would they be a big seller in spite of the fact that there is not much taste to them? Do you really think that it never crosses anyone’s mind that these look just like consecrated hosts as they are shoveling them in their face wile drinking a Molson and watching TV?
I see this as a general attempt to dilute the belief in the “real presence” for Catholics and reaffirm the protestant view of “just bread” while making a few bucks in the process.
My family is from Canada. This is something I used to be proud of, however, lately I try to avoid even mentioning it. Canada is a far different country than what I remember as a child. I have visited there a couple times in the last five years and have come home very disappointed both times. I think the large secular European influence on Canada is taking a seroius toll on the country’s morality.
I remember once driving by a strip mall in a Toronto suburb and I saw a restaurant, a children’s clothing store, a XXX Adult video store, and a shoe store all attached together.
Now with gay marriage run amuck and group sex allowed in public places, I don’t know what to think of that place anymore. I just hope the US takes a close look at what happening up there and learns a few lessons.
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MusicMan
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Are you sure that this isn’t actually from The Onion?
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IanS
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I don’t know about “The Onion”, but here is another link:
theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20051227/WAFERS27/TPNational/TopStories
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Catholic_Dude
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Actually the Onion is MORE reliable than any news source I can think of.
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edward_george
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Catholic Dude:
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Well, I tend to use the same philosophy for evaluating The Onion and the liberal American media–believe the opposite of what they say. You win both ways–the Onion isn’t meant to be true, and the American media really isn’t either…
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MusicMan
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This just smacks of a story that The Onion would come up with. After last year’s eBay Eucharist Consecrated by JPII fiasco, this is the kind of story they would come up with as a response.
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palmas85
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I could be wrong, but if they are not consecrated then they are just pieces of bread or crackers right? Who cares if people eat bread and crackers? I will tell you a dirty little secret though, ready…
Back in the old days, altar boys, such as me
, would actually manage to get into the sacramental wine on occasion :bigyikes: We thought it was kind of risky, but we knew it wasn’t the Precious Blood yet so it really didn’t matter. It sure mattered to Father Mike though. I guess he didn’t want a bunch of drunk 12 year olds spoiling his Mass.
Back in the old days, altar boys, such as me
, would actually manage to get into the sacramental wine on occasion :bigyikes: We thought it was kind of risky, but we knew it wasn’t the Precious Blood yet so it really didn’t matter. It sure mattered to Father Mike though. I guess he didn’t want a bunch of drunk 12 year olds spoiling his Mass.
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mikew262
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I think most altar boys did that in the old days (mid 60s for me). I know I did.I could be wrong, but if they are not consecrated then they are just pieces of bread or crackers right? Who cares if people eat bread and crackers? I will tell you a dirty little secret though, ready…
Back in the old days, altar boys, such as me
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batteddy
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Yes. They’re bread. Unleavened bread prepared in a certain way.
The wine would exist even without communion. So would the bread.
If the elements were not TRUE FOOD, they would not be used for the Eucharist, there would be no banquet symbolism to it.
Jesus made the Eucharist FROM bread and wine, he did not invent bread and wine FOR the Eucharist.
Though I admit motives must be investigated, and one must be cautious…it is not necessarily bad.
Perhaps it will immerse people in the idea again that what is recieved in Church is consecrated from true food…that Transubstantiation does take place in the context of the Breaking of the Bread…
Because traditionally, even the unconsecrated host was so far removed from ordinary food…it became practically unrecognizable…and maybe lost some of its original humility.
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lyoncoeur
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I agree, this sounds just like an ‘Onion’ article, right down to the converting Churches to Condos…we need to research this one further.
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Lapsed
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Nope, not from The Onion. This is in today’s Toronto Globe and Mail, the e-version of which has already been linked to. The G&M article has a little more depth to it than the UP one.
I agree that it all comes down to motivation. If someone is intending sacrilege, that’s a problem. But if there is no intent of sacrilege, it is simply unleavened bread unless consecrated.
(Yes, I’m aware it wouldn’t really be sacrilege unless the bread has been consecrated. Talking about intent here.)
I agree that it all comes down to motivation. If someone is intending sacrilege, that’s a problem. But if there is no intent of sacrilege, it is simply unleavened bread unless consecrated.
(Yes, I’m aware it wouldn’t really be sacrilege unless the bread has been consecrated. Talking about intent here.)
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