Communion wafers

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Has anyone ever got sick from the miniscule amount of gluten from the host?

So, why should the person who is concerned about catching something from the chalice gets to go in front of everyone else, which means your germs are okay to pass to the person behind you. What if there are 2 or 3 concerned parishoners? They all can’t go first. Do they do “paper, rock, scissors” to see who gets to go ahead?

What if I’m “alchohol intolerant”? Could that tiny sip of wine during mass send me off on a bender?

And the incence, that stuff will kill you…
 
John_Higgins said:
My sister used to say that it’s easier to believe it’s Jesus than to believe it’s bread!

John
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I can relate John, I really can.

It’s nice to see you on here. You probably don’t remember me from the Kresta board but I’ll mention it anyway. I was DianneD or DianneDli
 
ZuzuBailey said:
I just found out I have celiac disease and the Communion wafers are not allowed. I also dont drink the wine because I have a problem with drinking that cup after 100 people.

So what do I do?
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Drinking from the chalice is an easy fix – simply don’t do it.
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Mr.Bee said:
Has anyone ever got sick from the miniscule amount of gluten from the host?
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YES! To a person with celiac disease it’s like taking poison. My friend’s mom goes to communion at Christmas and Easter. Then she’s in agony for 2-3 days.
 
I have a family member with Celiac’s disease. I haven’t asked him recently (I should) but I believe he generally takes the host and has realtively few ill effects. I know others can have more severe reactions to even the small amounts of gluten in the host. Talk to your doctor about how these amounts of gluten are likely to affect you, and talk to your pastor about the low-gluten host options, receiving part of a host, etc.

That said, I just have to ask. . .does anyone else find the amount of time and energy Catholics expend on this topic just a bit ridiculous? There are a lot of non-Catholics who admire much about the beauty, truth and mystery expressed in the Catholic church but find the church too hung up on its own rules and regulations. Isn’t this a perfect example of what they’re talking about? Wouldn’t a discussion like this just make them want to run the other way as fast as they can? How many angels can dance on a miligram of gluten and will they fit on the head of a pin? Who really cares?!?

Do we REALLY believe that the wonderous mystery of our Lord’s death and resurection presented before us through his real presence in the Eucharist is limited by the gluten content of the bread? Really? That this miracle can occur when we mix wheat flour with water but not if we mix rice flour with water? That our Lord is really so limited by our rules and regulations? Even if those rules may be somewhat different in different countries? I just have a very very difficult time with this concept.
 
Phemie said:
That was my first reaction and was going to type that but then I googled it and found this from the USCCB:

usccb.org/liturgy/innews/1103.shtml

which essentially says that you don’t consider the amount in one single host but on the entire batch and that, based on this, these hosts are valid matter.
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Did you see this part;

"A. The use of gluten-free hosts and mustum
  1. Hosts that are completely gluten-free are invalid matter for the celebration of the Eucharist."
 
Phemie said:
The problem is that these hosts are being marketed as ‘gluten-free’. That makes it difficult to distinguish between the so-called ‘gluten-free’ hosts that ARE valid matter and those that are in fact free of gluten and therefore invalid matter.
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The Catholic Church has to certify that they are not gluten free, The Matter of the Sacraments ia not something the Church takes lightly, Hosts should not be purchased from any supplier unless the Church has approved them. This is why a person may NOT supply their own Host.
 
Phemie said:
I have seen no pronouncements on the topic.

You have to wonder though at the stretch of the imagination required to believe that mixing starch with water gives you bread.
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Mixing Wheat Flour and Water and then baking it produces bread.
 
ZuzuBailey said:
I just found out I have celiac disease and the Communion wafers are not allowed. I also dont drink the wine because I have a problem with drinking that cup after 100 people.

So what do I do?
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contact your pastor and explain the problem
he can order low gluten hosts, which you can take to your doctor and find out if they are acceptable, then the parish, with a little help from you, can arrange to have this available when you come to Mass, or you can receive from one of the chalices other than that in which the priest puts a particle of the host, before others, so that crumbs don’t accidentally come into contact with the precious blood.
 
Lance said:
Please read the link. The host are not really gluton free but have less than .01% gluton. We have 2 young children in our parish who have celiac disease. They receive these hosts. Our priest and bishop both agree that they are valid matter.
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Then they are Low Gluten Hosts, not Gluten Free Hosts.
 
Phemie said:
But they don’t use flour they use wheat starch.
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I am not a bread maker, however in reading some material I believe pure wheat starch contains no gluten. Therefore it would not be valid matter if made from this alone. Wheat flour contains Gluten to some degree or another. If you take pure wheat starch add back in a measured amount of wheat gluten, you then have a low gluten wheat flour, which would be valid matter.
 
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