Comparative Religion and General Faith Discussion

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But the Jews got it wrong. Jesus was just reiterating/prophesying that they would get it wrong. But they still got it wrong.
The Jews Are the Chosen People no matter what. Jesus came to fulfill the Law. Don’t forget he said “Forgive them Father for they know not what they do”.

MJ
 
The Baha’i Faith is the fulfillment of that important teaching…

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Ok, you all try and straighten out those other religions just leave Catholicism out, because you Baha’is don’t have a clue about it.
 
Just one question?? Maybe more than one.

Where in the Bible does Jesus Christ name by name that Krishna, Buddha, Zoroaster, Muhammad, the Bab and Baha’u’llah were false prophets??

Or didn’t He know of Them??

If He knew, and I’m positive He did, I want a condemnation of each by name that they are false.

False prophets is not the same as naming Muhammad or Baha’u’llah by Name. Anyone can be accused of being a false prophet. Proof please that Jesus actually stated these names and not to follow them.

Otherwise if you don’t have an infallible source saying They are false.

Verses please not interpretations.
 
Thankyou for finally answering this.

So unless you ae Divine, you cannot know God completely, meaning humans can NEVER know God completely since we are not Jesus, who was Divine, correct?

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Yes the Divine Son can know the Divine Father completely and vice versa .
 
Where in the Bible does Jesus Christ name by name that Krishna, Buddha, Zoroaster, Muhammad, the Bab and Baha’u’llah were false prophets??

Or didn’t He know of Them??.
Jesus came because the Father sent him, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, to redeem the human race. Neither, Krishna, Buddha, Zoroaster, Mohammed, the Bab and Baha’u’llah had anything to do with it. However, they all have to bow down to the Author of Life.

MJ
 
Just one question?? Maybe more than one.

Where in the Bible does Jesus Christ name by name that Krishna, Buddha, Zoroaster, Muhammad, the Bab and Baha’u’llah were false prophets??

Or didn’t He know of Them??

If He knew, and I’m positive He did, I want a condemnation of each by name that they are false.

False prophets is not the same as naming Muhammad or Baha’u’llah by Name. Anyone can be accused of being a false prophet. Proof please that Jesus actually stated these names and not to follow them.

Otherwise if you don’t have an infallible source saying They are false.

Verses please not interpretations.
He doesn’t have to name anybody all he has to do is say this, and we know exactly what he means…
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Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

John 14:6 **
 
Indeed, therefore, to us mere human beings, God is unknowable in His essence 🙂

I hope that this is a chapter closed…

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No, Jesus is of the same essence of his Father (God) so we know the essence of God… through Jesus.
 
:rolleyes:

Contradiction of your own Church’s teachings…

:rolleyes:

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The Blessed in Heaven possess an immediate intuitive knowledge of the Divine Essence. (De Fide)

The Divine Attributes are really identical among themselves and with the Divine Essence. (De Fide)
 
The Blessed in Heaven possess an immediate intuitive knowledge of the Divine Essence. (De Fide)

The Divine Attributes are really identical among themselves and with the Divine Essence. (De Fide)
Conveniently missed the important one 👍

Love your work lol

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Jesus came because the Father sent him, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, to redeem the human race.

MJ
Yes I know that. But it has always been maintained the above Manifestations were false Proohets so where does Jesus state this as He knew of them as He had all knowledge.

Where does He say Buddha is false? Buddha came 500 years before. Muhammad was soon to come yet nothing. No telling everyone that a Person named Muhammad would come and not to accept Him??

If Jesus said something exactly we must follow it but where exactly did He say it? So humanity won’t go astray Jesus must say specifically not to follow Muhammad The Bab and Baha’u’llah when They come. He would have known.
 
Conveniently missed the important one 👍

Love your work lol

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It means mere people can’t comprehend the Divine Essence with human reason, God has to give the Blessed in Heaven “intuitive knowledge” for them to understand.
 
It means mere people can’t comprehend the Divine Essence with human reason, God has to give the Blessed in Heaven “intuitive knowledge” for them to understand.
Exactly, so calling Him “King of Kings” is a reference to His majesty which appeals to human reason, right? God has majesty. That’s reasonable. But no, that’s not Gods essence, Gods essence is beyond human descriptions which appeal to human reason.

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Yes I know that. But it has always been maintained the above Manifestations were false Proohets so where does Jesus state this as He knew of them as He had all knowledge.

Where does He say Buddha is false? Buddha came 500 years before. Muhammad was soon to come yet nothing. No telling everyone that a Person named Muhammad would come and not to accept Him??

If Jesus said something exactly we must follow it but where exactly did He say it? So humanity won’t go astray Jesus must say specifically not to follow Muhammad The Bab and Baha’u’llah when They come. He would have known.
Heres a list of about 35 other people who claimed they were God or Jesus should he have made a list of them too in the Bible…en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_claimed_to_be_Jesus
 
Heres a list of about 35 other people who claimed they were God or Jesus should he have made a list of them too in the Bible…en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_claimed_to_be_Jesus
The major religions yes most definitely because their influence is upon entire civilisations not just a group of people but They changed and directed the course of human history and gave birth to new eras.

Let’s start with Muhammad. No mention in the Bible? Islam has had a very major influence on humanity. Yet no mention by Christ or the bible that it is false? So with all the verses in the Bible all God had to add was ‘when a person named Muhammad appears don’t accept Him’ that’s all. Is God incapable of that?

Cannot God write one verse in the Bble - a man called Baha’u’llah will come reject Him?? The actual Word of God must name Baha’u’llah and Muhammad as false by name otherwise one is adding to the Bible something that is not therein.

I believe in Baha’u’llah and Muhammad. Please show me where the actual Word of God names Them as false prophets by their names.

So please show me which verse of the Bible condemns Muhammad by NAME. Bahaullah by name.

A large percent of humanity believes in these Manifestations that people say are false according to the Bible so the Bible must actually name them as false. Where? Buddha, Krishna all of them where are They named by name as false in the Holy Word of God???
 
Going back a bit earlier today what “eddie too” wrote:

“…Baha’u’llah, unlike Jesus, lived out a natural life. the Baha’i say that RCs reject Baha’u’llah just as the jews rejected Jesus. that is not true. this is a complete misunderstanding of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Baha’u’llah was not a member of the RC faith…”

I believe when most Baha’is think of a “comparison” to Jesus in the Baha’i Faith they think of Siyyid Ali Muhammad, the Bab… Whose ministry was brief…some six years compared to around three years for His Holiness the Christ. The Bab was also about twenty five years old when He began His ministry as Jesus was also young.

I don’t say as a Baha’i that “RCs reject Baha’u’llah”.

We have former Catholics in our community that are Baha’is today. In a nearby community I know a former Roman Catholic priest that became a Baha’i about ten years ago.

Neither the Bab or Baha’u’llah were members of the “RC faith”. They were raised in Shiah Islam in Persia. The correct comparison I believe would be if we compared say the way the Baha’i Faith emerged from Islam is similar to the way Christianity emerged from Judaism.

The Qur’an for us Baha’is is somewhat the way Christians regard the Old Testament…an inspired Holy Scripture but having laws and ordinances that no longer apply in the New Covenant.

But I would say that the way to have discussions of comparative religions is to meet on a forum where each participant respects the other and we are not trying to attack or belittle the fine contributions made by the other religions.👍
 
The major religions yes most definitely because their influence is upon entire civilisations not just a group of people but They changed and directed the course of human history and gave birth to new eras.

Let’s start with Muhammad. No mention in the Bible? Islam has had a very major influence on humanity. Yet no mention by Christ or the bible that it is false? So with all the verses in the Bible all God had to add was ‘when a person named Muhammad appears don’t accept Him’ that’s all. Is God incapable of that?

Cannot God write one verse in the Bble - a man called Baha’u’llah will come reject Him?? The actual Word of God must name Baha’u’llah and Muhammad as false by name otherwise one is adding to the Bible something that is not therein.

I believe in Baha’u’llah and Muhammad. Please show me where the actual Word of God names Them as false prophets by their names.

So please show me which verse of the Bible condemns Muhammad by NAME. Bahaullah by name.

A large percent of humanity believes in these Manifestations that people say are false according to the Bible so the Bible must actually name them as false. Where? Buddha, Krishna all of them where are They named by name as false in the Holy Word of God???
Since the bible was written 2000 years ago we need to know all their birthdays and Locations too.
 
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