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JimmyDFG
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How can this be when abdu’l-baha’s knowledge was not “innate” ?
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MartinJordan
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Jesus answered by calling them out. Or did you forget that?That accusation was thrown at many in the past. Jesus knew nothing about Judaism apparently…
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worldcitizen
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Abdul-Baha spent many years with Baha’u’llah so learnt many things that no man knows. I just found it fascinating that He states Manifestations of God existed a million years ago.
Somewhere Baha’u’llah says something similar.
Its a collection of His talks and Writings before 1921.
Here is what Baha’u’llah says…
“And now regarding thy question, “How is it that no records are to be found concerning the Prophets that have preceded Adam, the Father of Mankind, or of the kings that lived in the days of those Prophets?” Know thou that the absence of any reference to them is no proof that they did not actually exist. That no records concerning them are now available, should be attributed to their extreme remoteness, as well as to the vast changes which the earth hath undergone since their time.”
Excerpt From: Bahá’u’lláh. “Gleanings from the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh.”
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JimmyDFG
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Catechism of the Catholic ChurchThat accusation was thrown at many in the past. Jesus knew nothing about Judaism apparently…
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The relationship of the Church with the Jewish People. When she delves into her own mystery, the Church, the People of God in the New Covenant, discovers her link with the Jewish People,"the first to hear the Word of God."The Jewish faith, unlike other non-Christian religions, is already a response to God’s revelation in the Old Covenant. To the Jews “belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises; to them belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ”, “for the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable.”
840 And when one considers the future, God’s People of the Old Covenant and the new People of God tend towards similar goals: expectation of the coming (or the return) of the Messiah. But one awaits the return of the Messiah who died and rose from the dead and is recognized as Lord and Son of God; the other awaits the coming of a Messiah, whose features remain hidden till the end of time; and the latter waiting is accompanied by the drama of not knowing or of misunderstanding Christ Jesus.
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JimmyDFG
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So these “manifestation of god” were preaching at the time of Homo erectus…and look what that got them
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worldcitizen
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All we is know that man was always man and always had a soul and that God educated it
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MartinJordan
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Christians are not a religious minority. Its just those that love the world and flesh over the spirit, hate us. Jesus reminded that the world hated him first so we will go through persecution no matter but we know our Joy in the Lord is fulfilled. The world will continue loving the flesh but Blessed are they that suffer persecution for justice’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
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Sorry I just meant persecuted people. Thanks for correcting me.Christians are not a religious minority. Its just that the world hates us.
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But in this day and age it shouldn’t be happening. It makes me so mad man’s inhumanity to man.
This is where unless humanity accepts its oneness it’s always going to be ‘us and them’ which is a lie. So humanity sees fellow innocent human beings being persecuted and says ‘that’s not my country’ or ‘that’s not my problem’.
This is so shameful. We are ONE humanity. ONE race. The only division is in our minds. The Christian is a human so is the Bahai and Jew and Muslim and aetheist.
That’s why accepting the oneness of all humanity is the most important teaching for humanity today… By accepting we are one family wars will cease, persecution will be forcibly stopped. The world will unite and do what is in everybody’s interests not just what is in their national, political, racial or religious interest.
We were all created by the same God and we are all one human family and that is what I want every human to accept. That our humanity comes first. Otherwise we will just continue destroying and committing senseless acts of cruelty.
Catholics can believe in the oneness of humanity and don’t have to give up their beliefs. It’s not about conversion but about a wider loyalty, the loyalty to our fellow humans.
We will all accept one day all humanity as a family but the evil today is exclusiveness and supremacy ideas of race, nation and ideology.
However there was promised one fold and one shepherd and God keeps His Promises so I keep working and trying to teach the oneness of mankind to everyone so that we do not have these nonsensical artificial invisible barriers which we created not God.
One day humanity will be one and wars will cease. Isaiah promised it. And it will happen but not without a mighty effort. We all need to spread the teaching that all men are equal under God. Only this acknowledgement of our oneness universally will end wars and religiously will see us all as brothers.
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Techno2000
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Why God couldn’t keep the Angels united ?Sorry I just meant persecuted people. Thanks for correcting me.
But in this day and age it shouldn’t be happening. It makes me so mad man’s inhumanity to man.
This is where unless humanity accepts its oneness it’s always going to be ‘us and them’ which is a lie. So humanity sees fellow innocent human beings being persecuted and says ‘that’s not my country’ or ‘that’s not my problem’.
This is so shameful. We are ONE humanity. ONE race. The only division is in our minds. The Christian is a human so is the Bahai and Jew and Muslim and aetheist.
That’s why accepting the oneness of all humanity is the most important teaching for humanity today… By accepting we are one family wars will cease, persecution will be forcibly stopped. The world will unite and do what is in everybody’s interests not just what is in their national, political, racial or religious interest.
We were all created by the same God and we are all one human family and that is what I want every human to accept. That our humanity comes first. Otherwise we will just continue destroying and committing senseless acts of cruelty.
Catholics can believe in the oneness of humanity and don’t have to give up their beliefs. It’s not about conversion but about a wider loyalty, the loyalty to our fellow humans.
We will all accept one day all humanity as a family but the evil today is exclusiveness and supremacy ideas of race, nation and ideology.
However there was promised one fold and one shepherd and God keeps His Promises so I keep working and trying to teach the oneness of mankind to everyone so that we do not have these nonsensical artificial invisible barriers which we created not God.
One day humanity will be one and wars will cease. Isaiah promised it. And it will happen but not without a mighty effort. We all need to spread the teaching that all men are equal under God. Only this acknowledgement of our oneness universally will end wars and religiously will see us all as brothers.
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Servant19
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No you didn’t slander Thornton. You slandered the Baha’i Faith as a whole.
We can leave it at that brother.
You don’t have to answer to me
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Thornton Chase was one of those who was rich who made it into heaven. He was wealthy long before he became a Baha’i anyway, but when he became a Baha’i he gave it all to the Faith.
Do you know why “it will be hard for one who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven.” Jimmy?
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Techno2000
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So, Revelation has been progressing for a Million years ?
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Techno2000
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Who is… LYING AS DEAD ON THE COUCH OF HEEDLESSNESS!
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worldcitizen
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The one fold and one shepherd is promised humanity as well as the wolf and the lamb, that is antagonistic and diametrically people, will join together in peace and there shall be no more war.
You can find these quotes if you like
I really, truly believe humanity will become one. It means we’re no longer politically opposed to each other but all nations and people working together for each other.
It means putting humanity first and not national, racial or religious issues above the well being of humanity. So if there’s starving children, all humanity unites to help them, educate them and take them out of poverty for good.
Already in some sciences and medicine and space exploration we can see humanity pool its knowledge and resources, I’m sure that one day we will all dwell in peace but we have to make the effort.
What can you do? Encourage unity amongst religions. Catholics can go and pray at mosques and Buddhist temples etc because God is everywhere and to show universal fellowship will break down the barriers between humanity that WE all have erected.
God created humans and planet earth.He loves us all. So we need to spread God’s universal love to everyone, unconditional love and unconditional acceptance. If we do this it will spread.
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If you desire with all your heart, friendship with every race on earth, your thought, spiritual and positive, will spread; it will become the desire of others, growing stronger and stronger, until it reaches the minds of all men.*
Abdul-Baha
We need to spread this universal love until it becomes the desire of all men, Muslims, Jews, everybody so that the world can become as brothers. Conversion is not needed. What is needed is to put humanity above our own personal interest.
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worldcitizen
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That is why I come here. To spread the gospel of universal brotherhood and fellowship, the teaching of our oneness, that we are all created by the one same God who loves us unconditionally whether we believe in Him or not and so we too need to love unconditionally and spread the love of humanity to all the corners of the earth.
Only love can conquer hate and only light can dissipate darkness. There is not enough love in our world that is why it is so dark.
Where are the lovers of humanity?? All these wars are based upon lesser loyalties of race, nation or religion but if we can broaden our vision to see all humanity as our nation, as our race then wars will automatically cease. When loyalty is to humanity there will be no pretext for war.
This idea must spread everywhere until we change this world into the promised Kingdom.
No conversion just broadening of our vision.
'Let your vision be world embracing rather can confined to your own selves.
“So powerful is the light of unity that it can envelop the whole world” (Baha’u’llah)
Only love can conquer hate and only light can dissipate darkness. There is not enough love in our world that is why it is so dark.
Where are the lovers of humanity?? All these wars are based upon lesser loyalties of race, nation or religion but if we can broaden our vision to see all humanity as our nation, as our race then wars will automatically cease. When loyalty is to humanity there will be no pretext for war.
This idea must spread everywhere until we change this world into the promised Kingdom.
No conversion just broadening of our vision.
'Let your vision be world embracing rather can confined to your own selves.
“So powerful is the light of unity that it can envelop the whole world” (Baha’u’llah)
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worldcitizen
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That’s what He seems to be saying. That man has never been abandoned without God’s loving guidance.
I wonder if this is not saying the same thing???
Psalm 100:5
For the LORD is good. His unfailing love continues forever, and his faithfulness continues to each generation.
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Techno2000
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Baha’u’llah may have given you a Rosy forecast of the future , but Jesus’s forecast is not so Rosy, and so far Jesus’s forecast is coming true.The one fold and one shepherd is promised humanity as well as the wolf and the lamb, that is antagonistic and diametrically people, will join together in peace and there shall be no more war.
You can find these quotes if you like
I really, truly believe humanity will become one. It means we’re no longer politically opposed to each other but all nations and people working together for each other.
It means putting humanity first and not national, racial or religious issues above the well being of humanity. So if there’s starving children, all humanity unites to help them, educate them and take them out of poverty for good.
Already in some sciences and medicine and space exploration we can see humanity pool its knowledge and resources, I’m sure that one day we will all dwell in peace but we have to make the effort.
What can you do? Encourage unity amongst religions. Catholics can go and pray at mosques and Buddhist temples etc because God is everywhere and to show universal fellowship will break down the barriers between humanity that WE all have erected.
God created humans and planet earth.He loves us all. So we need to spread God’s universal love to everyone, unconditional love and unconditional acceptance. If we do this it will spread.
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If you desire with all your heart, friendship with every race on earth, your thought, spiritual and positive, will spread; it will become the desire of others, growing stronger and stronger, until it reaches the minds of all men.*
Abdul-Baha
We need to spread this universal love until it becomes the desire of all men, Muslims, Jews, everybody so that the world can become as brothers. Conversion is not needed. What is needed is to put humanity above our own personal interest.
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Techno2000
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Who were the people that God guided a Million years ago ?
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