Comparing 2018 and 1918...Are we happier?

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Are you proposing that pornography was as rampant in 1918 as today?
Are you proposing that differences in pornography viewership are due to unhappiness rather than simple availability and technological advancement?
 
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It’s rarely prescribed as a first line antianxiolytic, which was what it was designed as when it came out in the 1970s. Trust me - and it’s due to the side effects. It basically stones people, has a very long half life, and interacts with a great number of other drugs.
 
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How do you want to measure happiness?
I don’t know that you can measure happiness. I’m primarily concerned with freedom and opportunity, which at least allows for the pursuit of happiness.
is a dead person free? How are the millions of children that were aborted free to choose medical care and vote?
Are despairng suicidal people free?
How about drug addicted? Are they free?

The Church even mitigates the culpability of the addicted and despairing,as those things limit the freedom of the person.
 
Longer hours spent working, fewer social connections… Is it really likely that these problems would have been the same 100 years ago?
15 hour days in factories, outrageous cost of telephones, people unable to afford travel…yes. Different modes doesn’t mean the problems weren’t the same.

Most folks I know aren’t working 15 hour days in traditionally 8 hour a day jobs with no overtime or compensation. We passed laws against that - and those laws didn’t exist 100 years ago.

The whole social media and locking ourselves into computers as socialization is 100% our fault. It wasn’t theirs back then.
 
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> > The fact is: we do not even know what happiness is in this age.
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> I worked with stats from the early 1900s regarding child pornography and sex traffic. Really, it was as weird back then as today.

as weird as…

How do you measure that? Sure there is always objectification going on.
Are you proposing that pornography was as rampant in 1918 as today? I’m sorry , that assertion just fails badly.
Objectification? I talk about sex traffic rings and abuse, not oversexualisation on TV you can skip.
I can only say I did research on this during my job - it´s not that I studied for nothing.I don´t say this without background, I remeber the huge numbers were shocking.
 
is a dead person free? How are the millions of children that were aborted free to choose medical care and vote?
Are despairng suicidal people free?
How about drug addicted? Are they free?
Again, not specific to the 21st century.
 
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Are you proposing that pornography was as rampant in 1918 as today?
Are you proposing that differences in pornography viewership are due to unhappiness rather than simple availability and technological advancement?
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Pandemic consumption of pornography is not symptomatic of unhappiness?
Really?
Do you deny that consumption of pornography is a pandemic, by definition? Even the medical establishment is beginning to recognize this.
 
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Pandemic consumption of pornography is not symptomatic of unhappiness?
Really?
Do you deny that consumption of pornography is a pandemic, by definition? Even the medical establishment is beginning to recognize this.
You think it was differnet in 1918? With no back up, I have to say. No Internet and TV doesn´t mean no pornography.
 
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Pandemic consumption of pornography is not symptomatic of unhappiness?
Really?
Do you deny that consumption of pornography is a pandemic, by definition? Even the medical establishment is beginning to recognize this.
You’re deflecting. That’s not what I said at all.

You’re saying we use more pornography now than in 1918 because we’re more unhappy now than we were then. My question is, how do you know that any difference is due to unhappiness rather than availability?
 
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Pandemic consumption of pornography is not symptomatic of unhappiness?
Really?
Do you deny that consumption of pornography is a pandemic, by definition? Even the medical establishment is beginning to recognize this.
You think it was differnet in 1918? With no back up, I have to say. No Internet and TV doesn´t mean no pornography.
Please be serious. There is no comparison.
 
We’re discussing life 100 years ago vs. life today. Who woulda thunk that this topic would drive so much anger? 😧

Whole lotta right fighting going on here…
 
Not sure you’re clear on when the 8-hour workday was established throughout large parts of the US.
Not sure you’re clear on when labor laws were actually enforced or to whom they were enforced.

Modern laws:


That law was passed by Roosevelt in 1938. It wasn’t Federal law or Federally required until that time. Trust me, 15 hour days in factories were not unheard of in 1918 in the United States.

 
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8-hour labor laws were in place in many areas by the end of the 19th-century. They were a cornerstone of Teddy Roosevelt’s presidential campaign…in 1912.
 
8-hour labor laws were in place in many areas by the end of the 19th-century. They were a cornerstone of Teddy Roosevelt’s presidential campaign…in 1912.
For railroad workers.

Did you read the link? You’re not correct. They were NOT guaranteed or codified until 1938. Just because TR believed in them doesn’t mean they were actually passed as law for every single worker in the US.

Another fact: it was actually signed by Grant…but wasn’t law until 1938 when the Fair Labor Standards Act was passed. Most didn’t see an 8 hour day until that time.
 
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