Comparing Slavery to Abortion & Prolife Conquers All

[Claire091166]

I am staunchly prolife, but can’t understand why the prolife movement continuously compares abortion to slavery?

In my mind, the 1st thing that pops up when I consider abortion is the Holocaust. Are pro life folks afraid of being labelled, “anti Semitic”? Is that why they hesitate to make the Holocaust comparison?

Another thing I’ve noticed about prolifers: As long as one is against abortion, they can do all manner of bad deeds, but would still be hailed as saints, only because they oppose abortion.

Am I off base?

 

[Viki63]

People make the comparison to the Holocaust all the time. More often than to slavery, in my experience,.
They both work. Maybe slavery more so in the US, since it happened here. Some pro-abortion advocates think that a fetus is not a human being, because it doesn’t look an adult; some pro-slavery advocates felt that blacks were not human beings either. so it’s a reasonable comparison.
Of course a fetus is what a human being looks like before birth. But a lot of people don’t stop to think to far about abortion. I know I didn’t before the Holy Spirit woke me up.

 

[Convert2013]

I am staunchly prolife, but can’t understand why the prolife movement continuously compares abortion to slavery?

In my mind, the 1st thing that pops up when I consider abortion is the Holocaust. Are pro life folks afraid of being labelled, “anti Semitic”? Is that why they hesitate to make the Holocaust comparison?

Another thing I’ve noticed about prolifers: As long as one is against abortion, they can do all manner of bad deeds, but would still be hailed as saints, only because they oppose abortion.

Am I off base?

So are you including yourself in generalizing prolifers being hypocrites who are hailed as saints as you describe?

 

[Joe_5859]

My experience is the same as Vicki’s. I see people make the comparison to the Holocaust all the time. I’ve never counted which one is used more, but I’ve never been particularly struck that one is used much more than the other.

I think there are general points of comparison. With slavery, there was written into the law that one whole segment of the population was not a full person under the law. And many people who were immersed in that culture saw nothing wrong with it at the time. It’s always been my hope that people “wake up” to the horror of abortion the same way people did with regards to slavery.

With the Holocaust, there is the obvious comparison that millions of people are being killed simply for being part of a certain segment of the population.

I do think we need to be careful about how and when we make these comparisons. We don’t want the comparison we choose to use to distract from the main point. Sometimes comparisons to the Holocaust (or Nazis or Hitler) are summarily ignored simply because they get used so much. We shouldn’t use the comparisons as handy little emotionally-charged bullet points to make all our points for us and end any discussion just so we can “win” the argument. We need to explain why the comparisons are apt.

 

[GEddie]

People make the comparison to the Holocaust all the time. More often than to slavery, in my experience,.
They both work. Maybe slavery more so in the US, since it happened here. Some pro-abortion advocates think that a fetus is not a human being, because it doesn’t look an adult; some pro-slavery advocates felt that blacks were not human beings either. so it’s a reasonable comparison.
Of course a fetus is what a human being looks like before birth. But a lot of people don’t stop to think to far about abortion. I know I didn’t before the Holy Spirit woke me up.​

• 1. Slavery happened here.

And because it did, battles were fought over it using the same court system, state legislatures, USSC rulings, etc, that the abortion battles are taking place in now.

A 1900s cartoon shows a winged black woman in Heaven holding a haloed little baby and saying, during slavery, “the courts didn’t think she was human either.”

ICXC NIKA

 

[Joe_5859]

• 1. Slavery happened here.

And because it did, battles were fought over it using the same court system, state legislatures, USSC rulings, etc, that the abortion battles are taking place in now.

A 1900s cartoon shows a winged black woman in Heaven holding a haloed little baby and saying, during slavery, “the courts didn’t think she was human either.”

ICXC NIKA

Yes that’s another point of comparison. Slavery was enshrined into constitutional law. And yet it was overturned because it was an unjust an immoral law. Abortion is the same. It was decided by the Supreme Court. But it must be overruled because it is unjust and immoral.

 

[Brendan]

I am staunchly prolife, but can’t understand why the prolife movement continuously compares abortion to slavery?

In my mind, the 1st thing that pops up when I consider abortion is the Holocaust. Are pro life folks afraid of being labelled, “anti Semitic”? Is that why they hesitate to make the Holocaust comparison?

Both comparisons are valid, in that all three have the same root cause, a denial of the very humanity of the victims.

 

[Claire091166]

So are you including yourself in generalizing prolifers being hypocrites who are hailed as saints as you describe?

"How did the last president run the country into the ground? That’s your opinion and you have the right to it, but it doesn’t necessarily make it true. Did he himself do it single handedly? What about our current president relative to his promoting the killing of babies and forcing all of us to pay for it? How do you view him with respect to running this country …elevating it or running it into the ground, and why?

Non comprende the hypocrite inference in your first paragraph - explique, s’il vous plait! But exaggerating to make my point and this may be totally disingenuous: It seems that if even Hitler were alive today and he was against abortion, some in Catholic Radio would sing his praises.

Last prez inherited a surplus but by the time he left office, there was a huge economic meltdown. Tons lost jobs, homes, livelihood and with that there families. Plus there were 2 wars…

Yet, all I heard in Catholic circles in response was that the dude was prolife. There was hardly a discussion on how to address the sad economic state. Sure, I agreed with his faith based initiatives, prolife stance and compassionate conservatism and I would always vote for the one who upheld these believes, but I can certainly understand why people voted for our current prez. If one is losing their house and the first thing you want to talk about is abortion, who’s gonna listen to you?

And yes, I hate the current health care mandate.