Composing a Latin prayer, help?

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Hey,

I’m trying to translate this prayer into Latin. I’m not sure where the errors might be:

Blessed be God the Father
Blessed be God the Son
Blessed be God the Holy Spirit.
Blessed be the one, living and holy God. May all glory be to God forever through our Lord Jesus Christ.

*Beatus est Deus Pater
Beatus est Deus Filius
Beatus est Deus Spiritus Sanctus
Beatus est unus, vitens et sanctus Deus.

Omnem gloriam sit semper Dei per Christum Nostrum Dominum. *
  • I have in the last line esse in the jussive subjunctive, so that it reads “let all glory be”, is it proper to have the other invocations in the nominative?
Thanks for any help!
 
Jordan_Francis said:
Hey,

I’m trying to translate this prayer into Latin. I’m not sure where the errors might be:

Blessed be God the Father
Blessed be God the Son
Blessed be God the Holy Spirit.
Blessed be the one, living and holy God. May all glory be to God forever through our Lord Jesus Christ.

*Beatus est Deus Pater
Beatus est Deus Filius
Beatus est Deus Spiritus Sanctus
Beatus est unus, vitens et sanctus Deus.

Omnem gloriam sit semper Dei per Christum Nostrum Dominum. *
  • I have in the last line esse in the jussive subjunctive, so that it reads “let all glory be”, is it proper to have the other invocations in the nominative?
Thanks for any help!
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I would also put the other invocations into the subjunctive, rather than indicative, if *esse *is explicit. Better IMHO would be to leave it as understood, and take a tip from the Divine Praises.
(Also: Correct the spelling of *vivens *and invoke DNIC, in the word order I am accustomed to. “All glory” should be nominative, not accusative)
*Benedictus Deus Pater
Benedictus Deus Filius
Benedictus Deus Spiritus Sanctus
Benedictus unus, vivens et sanctus Deus.

Omnis gloria sit semper Dei per Dominum Nostrum Iesum Christum.*
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tee
 
Thanks! I should have caught the gloria case error. I am accustomed to thinking that the thing “given to” is necessarily in the accusative because it is being acted upon. But looking at it again I see that “all glory” is the subject.
Correct the spelling of vivens
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lol. I guess what I had was “blessed be the one, holy and *shunning *God.”
 
tee not quite right! (mea culpa)
tee_eff_em said:
Omnis gloria sit semper Dei per Dominum Nostrum Iesum Christum.
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In the last line, *Deus *should be cast in the dative. :ouch:
*Omnis gloria sit semper
Code: 
Deo
per Dominum Nostrum Iesum Christum.*

tee
 
Thanks Tee,

I’ve made that mistake before- I started learning Greek first, and in Greek the dative is marked by an iota subscript. I tend to associate a vowel + i as dative, even in Latin.
 
Deo omnis gloria was one of Saint Josemaria Escriva’s mottoes.

The structure of your prayer reminds me a bit of the canticle of the three young men, which starts:

Benedictus es, Domine Deus patrum nostrorum :
et laudabilis, et gloriosus, et superexaltatus in sæcula.

Et benedictum nomen gloriæ tuæ sanctum :
et laudabile, et superexaltatum in omnibus sæculis.

Benedictus es in templo sancto gloriæ tuæ :
et superlaudabilis, et supergloriosus in sæcula.

Benedictus es in throno regni tui :
et superlaudabilis, et superexaltatus in sæcula.
 
Maybe I’m getting a bit picky here, but your phrase:

May all glory be to God forever through our Lord Jesus Christ.

means giving glory to God, through God. I’m not sure if that’s theologically sound.

In liturgical prayer it’s usual to ask the Father through the Son, of course. But here you are not asking for Christ’s intercession.
 
I suppose what I had in mind was that, because Christ is our intercessor and the in-person union of heaven and earth, those of us who are in a right relationship with God give him his due via our relationship with Christ.
 
The usual syntax for “through our Lord Jesus Christ” is per Christum Dominum nostrum.

Adddressing the Father, at the minor elevation in the Mass, the priest says:

Per ipsum, et cum ipso, et in ipso, est tibi Deo Patri omnipotenti, in unitate Spiritus Sancti, omnis honor et gloria per omnia saecula saeculorum.

Through him, with him, in him, in the unity of the Holy Spirit, all glory and honor is yours, almighty Father, for ever and ever.

Since your prayer praises the Trinity, if you wanted, you could echo the prayer from the Mass, and recapitulate, with something like:

Omnis gloria et honor Deo Patri in unitate Spiritus Sancti per Christum Dominum nostrum.

Okay, I’m done being overly particular. You’ll have to forgive me: I’m a linguist by training and pay close attention to semantics and syntax (it’s an ingrained habit). I do like your prayer. 👍
 
In the EF, when the phrase is used, it’s always as I put it (I think).

I had forgotten all about that innovation in the Novus Ordo…😉
 
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