Concerning Amoris Laetitia

[calinorth86]

Is Amoris Laetitia infallible teaching ? If it is not then why is there a dubia? Also does it really teach that the divorced and remarried can participate in holy communion?

 

[BlackFriar]

You joined in 2014 but somehow missed the 108 different threads on AL last year and before?

CAF google is your friend.
The rest of us are still exhausted on this topic…I hope.

 

[thistle]

The rest of us are still exhausted on this topic…I hope.

Don’t include me!!

 

[angel12]

Also does it really teach that the divorced and remarried can participate in holy communion?

You’re going to get answers that go both ways. Best thing to do is to read it for yourself. You can find it free at the vatican website:

https://www.vatican.va/content/dam/francesco/pdf/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20160319_amoris-laetitia_en.pdf

 

[KMG]

No, Amoris Laetitia is most certainly not infallible.

 

[twf]

Yes, AL and the Pope’s personal affirmation of its intent (I.e. his letter to the Argentine Bishops), has been used as the basis for changing the Church’s discipline in a number of regions / dioceses throughout the world, including Rome itself. In these regions / dioceses, there are now in place pastoral norms that do indeed envision divorced and remarried couples receiving holy communion under certain limited circumstances.

 

[Maximilian75]

Best answer I have heard yet concerning this.

 

[Tulitas]

AL is the largest tool for those who dislike Pope Francis to get on a rant about him.
I have no desire to debate this any further.

 

[Edward_H]

If it has any infallible parts, those parts are those that conform to prior to teaching.

No flipping of truths or teaching.

 

[BlackFriar]

I think AL is the largest piece of evidence showing that Pope Francis does not have the Church’s best interest at heart ,

Flagged as inappropriate.
Denigrating the Clergy is strictly prohibited on CAF

 

[MCH1]

Is Amoris Laetitia infallible teaching ?

No. See here: Papal infallibility - Wikipedia

If it is not then why is there a dubia?

Because certain parts were unclear.

Also does it really teach that the divorced and remarried can participate in holy communion?

Depends on who you ask…

Spoiler

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The teaching of the Church is that those living in adultery can not receive Holy Communion without repentance and the resolve never to sin again. AL is irrelevant in this regard, as the matter is already settled.

 

[joeybaggz]

Infallible teaching, a doctrine or dogma of the church that is proclaimed by either the Bishop of Rome in his capacity as supreme teacher of the RCC, from the chair of Peter. Teaching infallibly, the gift of God that allows that on matters of faith and morals, the church will not teach error. Is the teaching wrong, no, is it absolutely right, hmmm, maybe, maybe not.

 

[LittleFlower378]

No it AL never says that divorced and remarried can participate in Holy Communion.

 

[steve-b]

Is Amoris Laetitia infallible teaching ?

No

calinorth86:

If it is not then why is there a dubia? Also does it really teach that the divorced and remarried can participate in holy communion?

Some links on this from Canon law

Divorced Catholics and the Eucharist many internal links

Annulment questions:
Marriage and annulment
why do annulments take so long
what if the other spouse doesn’t want the annulment
why can a parish priest annul this marriage
can one get an annulment if there spouse refuses
why can’t he get married in the Church if he has an annulment
how can a spouse get remarried in the Church if there was no annulment

 

[pnewton]

It is Church teaching (infallible is not really the question.) The dubia that was mentioned did not address any teaching, but instruction in the letter, so the idea of infallibility would not apply anyway.

I would say if one does not know, just read the thing. It is good teaching.

 

[pnewton]

There are all sorts of places on the internet where one’s unvarnished opinion may be expressed without moderation. This place is different. It used to be more heavily moderated. Nonetheless, as a Catholic website, there are limits. For example, attacks on the Catholic Church are not permitted. That is why attacks on the clergy, by name, are not permitted, even if it is your opinion. I know it can be frustrating at times for those used to the Wild West of the internet, but this place is different. Opinions about ideas are fine. Judging the Pope’s heart, which your post did, is not okay.

Also, one is not allowed to attack other posters here, just their posts and ideas.

 

[KevinK]

Then what is the point of it?

 

[godisgood77]

Amoris Laetitia, besides being a beautiful written document, is part of the ordinary magisterium and is binding on the faithful.

Thank-you Pope Francis!

 

[MCH1]

Only blind obedience, even if that obedience comes to supporting error, as is the case with Amoris Laetitia.

Oh no, you are not required to support error. AL has no bearing on anything concerning Communion for the divorced and remarried, as the matter is already settled, they must go to confession and resolve never sin again before receiving Holy Communion.

 

[KMG]

Doubtful laws do not bind, and Amoris Laetitia is certainly not a binding document in any case.