Condoms OK sometimes?

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Siena said:
She is not sinning.

This is from the** Pontifical Council for the Family**. The document is titled "Vademecum for Confessors concerning Some Aspects of the Morality of Conjugal Life" and was issued Feb. 12, 1997.

You can read the entire document here:

cin.org/vatcong/vademec.html
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Oh, good. Glad to be assured I was on the right track. Thanks!
 
Rand Al'Thor:
Peace be with you!

Yes it is. See Siena’s post…that was the same thing I was going to say.

In Christ,
Rand
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**Norwinds’s **comment about Condoms is the one I was referring to as being untrue… And it is.
 
Bella3502 said:
**Norwinds’s **comment about Condoms is the one I was referring to as being untrue… And it is.
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Northwind:
There is also the fact that condoms do not prevent the spread of HIV.
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Actually, both of you are wrong, as was competently explained by Ziggy:
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Ziggy:
I have to agree and disagree with this… Condoms work well to prevent the spread of HIV but they will never prevent the spread. 2 reasons. 1) They aren’t 100%. 2) People are definitely not going to use them 100% right 100% of the time, so sexual activity with an HIV infected partner, will most likely spread to others.

From Aids.org
“Condoms prevent HIV transmission very well if they are used correctly every time you have sex.”

I don’t like those words “very well”… I’d rather abstain and live

aids.org/factSheets/153-Condoms.html
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– Mark L. Chance.
 
Siena said:
On a microscopic level- the size of the AIDS virus is many times smaller than the microscopic holes in the latex. The sperm are too big to pass through, but the AIDS virus can. One more point- the condoms they try to send to the 3rd world company are the eqivelent of “2nd quality”. They cannot be sold in the US for this reason, therefore, they are even LESS effective.

One more thing no one in the 1st world contries wants to consider, to the average African man, using a condom is a blow to his manly mandood self-image. This leads to very inconsistant use, but the detremantal psycological effect of further saturating the country in sex still takes place. The same as condom distribution programs in schools actually INCREASES the amount of sex by the students, as well as increases the pregnancy rate.

The only African country that has REDUCED the # of AIDS patients is Uganda, which has had a country wide abstenance and monogamy campaign going on for quite some time. This has made PP and the like FURIOUS, and they are pushing HARD to get condoms in there. Uganda also has a reasonably high percentage of Catholics (for an African nation) and I think that the “key” to getting PP’s condoms into Africa is to convince the African bishops it’s ok for AIDS prevention. -There goes the abstenence program in Uganda. PP wins, at the cost of millions more AIDS cases.
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Informative post Siena! 👍

I have a friend from Botswana whose parents are both doctors and are working with the medical communities and World Health Organization to teach people about HIV/AIDS prevention and ABSTINENCE is taught as the ONLY 100% prevention measure. The spread of HIV and AIDS is rampant there, and the life expectancy is projected to reach mid-30’s in only a couple of years. This most definitely could be prevented if people practiced abstinence.
 
Yes, condoms can, in certain situations, be licitly used…as water balloons.
 
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BayCityRickL:
Yes. I believe that condoms are effective and permitted when combined with abstinence.
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How on earth does one combine the the two? If a couple is abstaining from the marital act there would be no act for the condom to be used in. So … condoms and abstinence do not go together as in a combination - unless one has finally decided to do the right thing and abstain from ever using condoms again so that sin is no longer brought into the marital act.
 
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JKirkLVNV:
Yes, condoms can, in certain situations, be licitly used…as water balloons.
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Thats about the best thing they can be used for. 😃
 
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ElizabethAnne:
How can anyone combine the use of condoms and abstinence?
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You can’t! The point they are making is that using condoms is wrong so the only way you can use one is if you are practicing abstinence…get it?
 
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FightingFat:
I’m not arguing the point Mr. Beligerent, just interested in some further reading on the subject…
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A misread of a post gives no one the right to call another ‘beligerent’.

Charity!
 
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