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Yes, I’ve just come on to this thread but i noticed a lack of the proper terminology: the action, considered precisely as a material phenomenon (such as the physical shooting of a passer-by) may be a material sin. It becomes a formal sin only if it is done with the consent of the will, coupled to the knowledge that it is wrong. These categories of thought will allow the issue to be discussed clearly, otherwise it will go round in circles.I am not going to make a specific comment on above but could you be tighter please in your thinking - if you are talking about ‘sin’ you are always talking about the subject. if you are discussing an action you can speak of ’ matter’. I cannot see the sense in saying objectively ‘sinful’ - can somebody enlighten me if they think I am wrong?? Just for those who are not Catholics for a sin to be commited there must be: matter, knowledge, consent. If any of these is missing there is no sin. If the knowledge is only vague or the will slightly involved then there would be sin but not grave sin even if the matter were in itself grave.
Now, by Canon Law (canons 1323, 1324 +1321 to be exact) the action, seen as an action, of consecrating bishops without papal mandate is excused penalty if the defendant believes there is a State of Necessity. This provision explicitly applies even if the defendent is culpable in making an erroneous judgment that there was a state of necessity. (i.e. even if there were no state of necessity, and the defendent should have known this but, through his own fault, did not know that there was no state of necessity). As far as I can see, canon law actually allows a defendant to have committed a sin of omission (culpable) in misjudging the existence of the state of necessity, and still protects him from sanction. I think the original question that started this thread was: granted that Mgr Lefebvre was protected from sanction by the above paragraphs of Canon Law, can we say that he committed either a material or a formal sin in the process, and if so, would we be wrong to support him?
Do I read you correctly here, DavidJoseph?