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Anrakyr
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Which falls under explicit. Otherwise you’d be a convict for back round people in family photos at the beach.
Or naked toddler pictures families have for whatever reason.
Yeah?
Context is key.
Also I covered this by my comment;
Again, context is key.
If the priest had a folder of pictures of boys camp and it ranged from archery, clay modelling, to the beach; no one would care.
But if someone had a folder oddly of minors all almost naked under “tax return” that’s different.
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JimR-OCDS
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The context is taking photos of strange children, not your own.
In the case of Cuties, it’s children performing suggestive sexual acts. A stranger taking photos of the same content would be arrested in my state.
In the case of Cuties, it’s children performing suggestive sexual acts. A stranger taking photos of the same content would be arrested in my state.
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ThomasMT
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It is vile, disgusting, evil trash and I’m sure that you suspected of it as much before your curiosity got the better of you (granting benefit of doubt). The curiosity is worth confessing, IMO.
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pnewton
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Putting aside all the “what if’s,” no one has been arrested. I have not heard anyone with legal expertise who has actually seen the movie say it was illegal. All I have found was internet chatter from people who heard from people who heard from others who say…" Legal burden is nothing like internet chat rooms.
Whether watching it requires confession depends on the person and why he watched it. I have watched the trailer and am uninterested in the movie, not because of the serialization, which surely I believe to be an overblown issue, but because I do not watch touchy-feely chick flicks.
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TheLittleLady
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Have you ever watched “Dance Moms” or gone to a kid’s dance competition school or seen Toddlers and Tiaras?
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redcatholic
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No one here can save your soul. Anybody who watches this on purpose knowing what it is should probably confess. The wording doesn’t matter. You viewed material that is impure. However, YOU have to form your own conscience and you are responsible for it.
In my formed conscience I would confess it.
In my formed conscience I would confess it.
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Just don’t watch the movie. That’s simple.
Do we have to wallow in the sewer to find out whether it stinks or not?
ETA: I read the Rod Dreher review. The movie is French. To say the words “French movie” makes it almost a foregone conclusion that everything about it is going to be complicated. They do nuance better than anybody else does, and of course, there’s going to be an intellectual component to it. That’s just the French thing. Nonetheless, I won’t be seeing this film. I have no reason to. My son asked me about it, and I told him he won’t be seeing it either. In fact, my son (who keeps his ear to the ground on all things in popular culture, keeps me current, keeps me from being even stodgier and more un-hip than I already am) telling me about it, and reading about it here, is the only way I would ever have known there was such a movie.
Do we have to wallow in the sewer to find out whether it stinks or not?
ETA: I read the Rod Dreher review. The movie is French. To say the words “French movie” makes it almost a foregone conclusion that everything about it is going to be complicated. They do nuance better than anybody else does, and of course, there’s going to be an intellectual component to it. That’s just the French thing. Nonetheless, I won’t be seeing this film. I have no reason to. My son asked me about it, and I told him he won’t be seeing it either. In fact, my son (who keeps his ear to the ground on all things in popular culture, keeps me current, keeps me from being even stodgier and more un-hip than I already am) telling me about it, and reading about it here, is the only way I would ever have known there was such a movie.
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InThePew
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According to the IMDB it’s certification is MA (15 in the UK) so it doesn’t even come close to being pornographic - soft or otherwise. There are understandably concerns over it’s portrayal of young girls - the film’s intended as a critique of the over-sexualizing of children in the media but in doing so it obviously risks becoming the very thing it’s intended to critique.
When it comes to something like this (the Vladimir Nabokov book Lolita might be a better example) the question of sinfulness is determined by your purpose in watching it. If your purpose was sexual interest or curiosity then that’s sinful; on the other hand if your purpose was interest in the film’s artistic merit then that’s different.
I doubt there could ever be a more accurate description of all things French!
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InThePew
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Let’s just say there’s no accounting for taste!
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c4csp
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Most faithful Catholics have boycotted Netflix a couple years ago when they came out in support of abortion.
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NevermoreLenore
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Yeah, my girls and I watched it some and we were horrified at those shows as well. It’s so disheartening, how far we’ve fallen.
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NevermoreLenore
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I completely agree! I don’t know how many woman loathe chick flicks/rom coms as much as I do, but give me old war movies, thrillers, action, film noir, etc any day of the week! My husband and I have a grand time watching films on the weekends–sometimes John Wayne, war films on holidays, Christmas movies in December, Audrey Hepburn (husband’s favourite) and Bette Davis/Cary Grant/Claude Rains (mine) movies…Back on topic, the scene I watched was a dance performance wherein these little girls had micro shorts on (several times I saw the lower part of their bunnies), an athletic bra-like top, and the dancing included ‘humping’ the stage (sorry, I can’t think of how else to describe it without being too graphic), rubbing their hands up and down their bodies, actually rubbing the area between their legs, throwing heads back simulating orgasmic expressions, closeup crotch and rear shots. It’s one thing to dance provocatively, it’s quite another to simulate sexual acts…at 11 years old. Plenty of films show violence or sex, wherein you know what’s happening, but they utilise camera angles, fading, set placement, etc and never actually show anything. It’s one thing to have a gratuitously sexual film, but when you involve girls at eleven, that’s just …I don’t have a word that expresses how much my heart hurts for exploitation of children.
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Agnus-Dei
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I am moving my reply to the other thread. Delete this space if needed.
Dominus vobiscum
Dominus vobiscum
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Mine too. Beautiful in every way. I find it fitting that she is buried in a very simple cemetery, very unassuming, in a peaceful small town in Switzerland near the French border (Tolochenaz). One day I want to visit Tolochenaz and I have already found a florist so I can take flowers to her grave.
Audrey is one of these people of whom I think “she was not Catholic, but she should have been”.
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NevermoreLenore
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Will you add a flower from my husband and I? One of our daughters looks strikingly like Audrey Hepburn–bone structure, face shape, tiny. We call her Little Audrey.
She did so much good in the world. Every time I see the photos of her with baby deer my heart absolutely melts.
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SlavaIsusuChristu
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Remember when you are in confession that you need only say the type of sin and the number of times committed. So the norm would be to say, “I committed the sin of viewing pornography x amount of times”. You do not have to say what type of pornography, what specific video you were allegedly watching, what format (video vs magazine). These details simply don’t matter. Christ knows the full details of the sin committed. The priest only needs to know enough to address your sins, absolve you, and give you penance. When it comes to confessing certain sins, giving too much/unnecessary detail can be a near occasion of sin for the priest. I wouldn’t say this is common because priests are trained to prepare for confession and after doing confessions for a few years, I’m sure they’ve heard it all. But still, think about your priests soul too. Keep it simple and to the point. I sinned by lying, x amount of times. Don’t need to say what type of lie, who you lied to, etc. Already gave the porn example. Same thing with lust. If you look at someone with lust, that’s what you confess. You ought not go further than that (I lusted by looking at my co-worker’s x, y, or z).
As to your question, if you found yourself tempted by the movie then you would confess to lust. To be safe, I would confess it as pornography (hard to say and it’s better to be safe than sorry). That’s just my opinion though.
As to your question, if you found yourself tempted by the movie then you would confess to lust. To be safe, I would confess it as pornography (hard to say and it’s better to be safe than sorry). That’s just my opinion though.
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Vico
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I will do precisely that. That trip may not happen for several years. I am trying to get my son to agree to such a trip in conjunction with his mother taking him to see his grandparents in Poland, then meeting me somewhere, London or Paris, so that we can take our own trip in western Europe. He’s not interested. I tried to entice him by telling him I’d show him the house where Freddie Mercury grew up — he likes Queen — in the part of West End London I’m most familiar with. No dice. Pure 100% American all the way. Both his mother and I have utterly failed (so far) to get him to appreciate his European heritage. We will not give up!HomeschoolDad:
Will you add a flower from my husband and I? One of our daughters looks strikingly like Audrey Hepburn–bone structure, face shape, tiny. We call her Little Audrey.
She did so much good in the world. Every time I see the photos of her with baby deer my heart absolutely melts.
Audrey looked like a doe herself, with those eyes.
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Greenfields
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Bingo…
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