Confession:must be repentant for ALL sins?

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I have a question about confession that I am sure is pretty straightforward and simple, but I just can’t find the answer to it in any of my books. Let’s say a person has two mortal sins on their souls and they are repentant about one of them, but disagree or are confused and skeptical with the Church’s position on the other sin. Should they bother to go to confession knowing that they have this one sin they are sure they are going to keep committing and thus cannot say they are repentant and will sin no more? What about the sin they ARE repentant about? Are they just out of luck (so to speak) about being absolved for that sin? Does one wait to confess until they are repentant for all sins?
 
If you don’t confess all known mortal sins at confession, the absolution is rendered invalid and no forgiveness is gotten.
 
All mortal sins must be repented of. One cannot hold back repentance on one mortal sin and approach confession with the other --such would bring a new sin needing confession and an invalid confession.

Venial sins though of course is a different matter. With mortal sins it is “all or nothing”…with venial sins it is not. One can confess a venial sin one is contrite etc for and not mention another that one is not yet contrite for (of course we ought to seek to be contrite for all our sins…but I only mention this in so far as validity etc goes).

That being said:

In the case described --they need to meet with a good Priest (who of course thinks with the Church) and work on their difficulties…people can be in different places and the Priest…a good Priest can be trained to help them in this matter…(he can have the pastoral knowledge and experience to know what can be done etc…)

In general:

…they need “renewal of their mind”… of their way of thinking…and conversion of such can take some work (and grace)…

…and of course still seek in prayer from God the grace etc that they need. They ought not give up!

A good thing for them to read (and all of us!) is this: vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/homilies/2009/documents/hf_ben-xvi_hom_20090628_chius-anno-paolino_en.html (keep reading past the first paragraph to the end)
 
First, on a basic level, one must be repentant for all sins to receive a valid absolution. So it is not permissible to withold a sin and expect to be absolved for others.

Your questions at the end (about being out of luck) implies you don’t quite understand how absolution works. Yes, one is absolved of specific sins (i.e. the ones one has actually committed), but all sins are a rejection of God and a turning away from his will. What is actually being sought and offered in the Sacrament of Reconciliation is reconciliation between the sinner and God (and his Church). The sinner recognises that s/he has turned away from God and desires to return; s/he goes to receive God’s forgiveness and is brought back into full communion with him. It is nonsense to be affronted that one sin which one is sorry for cannot be forgiven until all are repented, or consider it bad luck.The fact that other sins remain unconfessed indicates that one does not truly want to accept God’s forgiveness on his terms and thus one is not truly repentant for any of one’s sins. Repentance (metanoia) is a 180 degree turn in our life, back to God, it doesn’t work on a sin by sin basis, it works on a give everything to God or don’t really give anything to God basis.

Believe me, I’m not preaching at you (I don’t even know your situation). I spent many years going to confession under the circumstances you describe; I witheld the sins of masturbation and contraception, thinking (as you describe) that I knew better than the Church! I was confused, doubtful, sceptical…all those things, and all the while I thought I was totally devoted to the Lord 😊

With that in mind, I would say to you that the person can confess the sin they’re not sure of and explain to the priest their confusion and doubts. (Take time to choose a good and understanding priest and make an appointment so as to be able to take your time) The priest can help to counsel the sinner and guide him/her. He may or may not grant absolution on that particular occasion, but at least the penitent (I use the word deliberately) will have sought help and advice as to how to overcome the problem.

In my case, I lay down and prayed before the Blessed Sacrament and begged for guidance as to why I was feeling so conflicted. Why did I feel so sure that I was right and yet the Church said I was wrong? I was given the grace to feel a detestation for my sins and a horror at my pride and presumption in putting myself above the Church. I confessed everything and was granted absolution. I have never again been seriously tempted to do either of those things.

At that time (of repentance and confession), I did not understand why those things were wrong, I was happily given the grace to be able to accept the Church’s teaching as right and just without seeking to fathom it. Later on, I came to understand why the Church is right on those matters and how it all works, but I had to accept it on faith for quite a while before that understanding came to me.

What I’m trying to say here is, a person in the situation you describe shouldn’t set themselves a false target of what repentance is. Repentance is turning back to God, fully and completely accepting his primacy in one’s life and recognising one’s own failings before him:
  • Repentance does not always tally with feelings of guilt, remorse, being sorry and other non-technical terms. They can come before or after or possibly not at all.
  • Feeling that one may slip back into the sin in the future through human weakness is not the same as deliberately intending to go on committing the sin. It’s perfectly (more than) fine to trust in God’s mercy and grace to help you through a sin you struggle with so long as you’re prepared to make the effort; that is utterly different from having no intention of stopping.
In answer to your question: of course that person should go to Confession and should pray for the grace to be truly repentant of all his/her sins. Such a person should wake up to God in his/her life, prompting the feelings that something is wrong and accept his love and mercy. As I said (sorry for the wordy post), the priest will help to untangle all these problems, and, although he may well refuse absolution in the first instance, he will help the person towards reconciliation.

Bottom line: never ever stop going to Confession (and never withold anything in Confession) and always rely on the grace of God to get you through whatever problems you have.
 
First, on a basic level, one must be repentant for all sins to receive a valid absolution. So it is not permissible to withold a sin and expect to be absolved for others.
It is important to not that such goes for Mortal sins only.

(of course for a venial sin that is confessed to be absolved…one needs to be sorry for it…not meaning that one need not be)

PS: the other person was posting a theoretical question.
 
It is important to not that such goes for Mortal sins only.

(of course for a venial sin that is confessed to be absolved…one needs to be sorry for it…not meaning that one need not be)

PS: the other person was posting a theoretical question.
I agree with you, but in that case a venial sin is not exactly witheld, it’s just not mentioned for the sake of brevity. There’s a difference between deliberately witholding a sin and having an attitude of complete repentance but not taking a list of venial sins 6 miles long into the confessional 😉

And yes, I realise that it was a theoretical question, but I was stuck between giving an academic kind of theoretical answer and answering the way I would if I were talking to a friend, in which case I would use ‘you’ or ‘me’ even knowing that it didn’t personally refer to either of us. If you re-read my post, you’ll see it’s a veritable melange of registers and styles to suit all occasions or none! Sometimes it’s just easier to write more naturally rather than saying ‘one’ all the time, or maybe I’m a lazy Englishwoman! 😛
 
I agree with you, but in that case a venial sin is not exactly witheld, it’s just not mentioned for the sake of brevity. There’s a difference between deliberately witholding a sin and having an attitude of complete repentance but not taking a list of venial sins 6 miles long into the confessional 😉
Even if someone was not at all repentant of a venial sin…what I noted is the case. The other sins can be confessed and absolved.

(of course…yes we ought to seek to repent of all our sins…yes let us seek complete renewal of our minds and lives…all the time…vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/homilies/2009/documents/hf_ben-xvi_hom_20090628_chius-anno-paolino_en.html)
 
Say the whole thing as a part of the sin then you are sharing your concern at same time and talking through it at confession may help. We do not always understand things but we can offer them to God
 
I agree with you, but in that case a venial sin is not exactly witheld, it’s just not mentioned for the sake of brevity.
Even if someone was not repentant of a venial sin…what I noted is the case. The other sins can be confessed and absolved. (new reads read my longer post above…mortal sins are different than venial…I am not meaning one “withholds” a mortal sin here)

(of course…yes we ought to seek to repent of all our sins…yes let us seek complete renewal of our minds and lives…all the time…vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/homilies/2009/documents/hf_ben-xvi_hom_20090628_chius-anno-paolino_en.html–the text I intend starts with the second paragraph-though the first is important of course)
 
When I have found myself in this situation, I will mention this along with the sin. “I did [sin x] # of times. I struggle with the Church’s teachings about this, and sometimes I am not really sorry that I did it.” Sometimes the priest will have something to say about it which makes me see it in a different light. :o
 
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