Confession, penance, and temporal punishment

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So I just heard about temporal punishment. Pretty much: you still have some punishment left after confession. Because of temporal punishment you stay in purgatory (not forever). Just the time it takes for your soul be cleansed. So you are absolves of your sins and are forgiven, but there is still some “dirt” to get off. I’ve heard doing penance can lessen temporal punishment. I just heard about it today so forgive me if I don’t get everything right. Please correct me if I’m wrong. My question: can you explain temporal punishment in more depth? How do I make amends for temporal punishment? What is plenary indulgence? What is partial indulgence?
 
As Dr. Anders likes to give the example I’ll put it here. Say you live in a house where your father has said not to throw the ball in the house. You throw the ball anyway and end up breaking the window. Your father knows you broke the window and when you go to him and say sorry he forgives you and your personal relationship is restored because you have acknowledged you did wrong and have done so with contrition. This is the repairing of the relationship between an individual and God that happens in the sacrament of Reconciliation.

However, even though the father and child have restored their relationship there’s still a broken window that exists and the mess from that which needs to be cleaned up. That would be the representation of the temporal aspect of sin. Because we are all each individuals with free will, it would not be good for us a moral agents to just wave a hand have the window be repaired. Can it happen? Yes, and that is a great mercy from the father in this scenario. Usually, as moral agents who can exercise our free will with the help and guidance of the father will make an effort to clean up the broken glass, asking for help when we need more assistance, and such of the window and work to replace it. That’s what the penance would be for; to clean up the broken glass. Sometimes people die with the relationship restored but there’s still a broken window or some broken glass on the floor, and that would be what Purgatory is for; to finish up cleaning up the remnants of the broken window since there’s no problem with the father/child relationship.

Indulgences are kinda hard to fit into the analogy though maybe someone can find the words better than me and make it work. I’ve heard Dr. Anders say it would be like if a sibling comes by and helps with the cleanup so it makes the time of the temporal affect shorter or go away entirely. I don’t quite like that extension to the analogy because it seems a bit off to me though I can’t quite place my finger on why. Plenary and Partial indulgences differ in the amount of temporal punishment they remove due to past confessed and absolved sins. Plenary indulgences remove all temporal punishment and partial indulgences remove only part of the punishment. Usually they are gained through prayers, actions (such as reading scripture, making a pilgrimage, going to mass on certain days, etc.), and most importantly not being attached to sin. The action of getting the indulgence either for yourself or for others is supposed to draw you close to the Lord and be done out of love.

I hope that helps a bit. As always, analogies can only get a person so far. You make amends for temporal punishment by living the Gospel and loving the Lord with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. Walk firmly with Him and love Him. Turn back to him in sincerity when you fall, because you probably will fall again. Simple words, but hard to do.
 
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Because of temporal punishment you stay in purgatory
Not necessary. If you can clear up your temporal punishment on earth then you won’t have to go to purgatory.
can you explain temporal punishment in more depth?
It’s like snowball effect. For example, you stole a vase that costs $10 from a shop but when you reach home your dog accidentally broke your teapot set which costs around $10 also. Lol!

Another example, you laughed when you saw a brick fell on somebody’s head. The next day, while jogging you slipped, fell and knocked your head.
 
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can you explain temporal punishment in more depth?
It’s like snowball effect. For example, you stole a vase that costs $10 from a shop but when you reach home your dog accidentally broke your teapot set which costs around $10 also. Lol!

Another example, you laughed when you saw a brick fell on somebody’s head. The next day, while jogging you slipped, fell and knocked your head.
No, that sounds more like a karma type of thing. There’s no one-to-one type of result from sin. Temporal punishment is to repair the temporal effects of sin. So you steal a vase, you now have deprived a person/company of money that is theirs. You can repair your relationship with God for stealing, but there’s still the temporal aspect of someone being deprived of money that repairing the relationship with God doesn’t make it go away. To just leave it alone would be an injustice to the individual as a moral agent. Sometimes it might not be possible to directly fix the problems but doing other things such as prayer, fasting, whatever your priest gives you as penance, personal penances with the guidance of an advisor, etc. can be a thing that is done to make amends for what someone’s sin has done.

I’ve seen some people who have rifts with family members because of things they did in the past. They’ve done a 180, fixed themselves up, but they just can’t get back in touch with those they hurt due to death or the others not being interested in repairing that temporal relationship. In that instance the person would then have the option of doing other things to make up for, in the eyes of God at least, the rift that they caused.
 
Thanks for correcting me and at the same time answered @RandomGirl 's question about temporal punishment. :fu:
 
We can all use a helping hand. I still think there’s something lacking in my explanation and am hoping someone else will chime in. I’m also really wordy so hopefully they can pare it down to just the necessary words.
 
. Because of temporal punishment you stay in purgatory (not forever).
I avoid temporal terms in relation to Purgatory .

Outside of time it is a state of purification .

If you have heard anyone speak of such things as a 100 days’ indulgence , it is nothing to do with 100 days in purgatory . It is about what the early Christians got for doing penance for 100 days .
 
Thank you for asking this questions because I wanted to ask almost the same thing 🙂

First of all I want to say some “nota bene” facts 😊
I’m from Croatia so if my english is kinda bad, that’s my teacher’s fault 😄 I really do like to read all this topics and that’s the reason I’ve joined here 🙂

Anyway…

I work as Latin teacher in Catholic school in Zagreb and I recently had similar conversation with my colleagues - with a nun and with a teacher in Catholic Teachings (I’m not sure if you have this kind of class in your schools).
However, they can’t figure out how does this plenary indulgence thing work: you need to do some formulas (say particular prayers, do pilgrimage, visit churches on particular feasts etc.). They ask “Does God “think” that way?” I answered: “Nope, God does not think that way, but people do so He need to speak to us with familiar language.” If you now what I mean 🙂

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I’ve been searching some historical fundaments on plenary indulgence. When did Church start to practice plenary indulgence? Which pope did that? That’s actually my thought.
 
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I’ve been searching some historical fundaments on plenary indulgences. When did Church start to practice plenary indulgences? Which pope did that? That’s actually my thought.

From same article:
The earliest record of a plenary indulgence was Pope Urban II’s declaration at the Council of Clermont (1095) that he remitted all penance incurred by crusaders who had confessed their sins in the Sacrament of Penance, considering participation in the crusade equivalent to a complete penance.
 
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