Confession Questions- Help!

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Does a feeling of shame (not, say, because you sinned and everybody thinks badly of you because of it; rather, the fact that you sinned, with people thinking well of you for it) count as contrition?

Also, in a confession I made today, I noticed as I confessed something I had forgotten that I almost gave a -how should I say this?- laugh-sort of thing that basically conveyed a feeling of “I was really stupid when I did this. How could I have ever been this foolish?” Was that a bad attitude and do I need to remake that Confession?

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Contrition can be either “perfect contrition” chiefly out of Love of God…or imperfect contrition:

Catechism:

1450 "Penance requires . . . the sinner to endure all things willingly, be contrite of heart, confess with the lips, and practice complete humility and fruitful satisfaction."49

Contrition

1451 Among the penitent’s acts contrition occupies first place. Contrition is "sorrow of the soul and detestation for the sin committed, together with the resolution not to sin again."50

1452 When it arises from a love by which God is loved above all else, contrition is called “perfect” (contrition of charity). Such contrition remits venial sins; it also obtains forgiveness of mortal sins if it includes the firm resolution to have recourse to sacramental confession as soon as possible.51

1453 The contrition called “imperfect” (or “attrition”) is also a gift of God, a prompting of the Holy Spirit. It is born of the consideration of sin’s ugliness or the fear of eternal damnation and the other penalties threatening the sinner (contrition of fear). Such a stirring of conscience can initiate an interior process which, under the prompting of grace, will be brought to completion by sacramental absolution. By itself however, imperfect contrition cannot obtain the forgiveness of grave sins, but it disposes one to obtain forgiveness in the sacrament of Penance.52
 
What Bookcat said!

As for your laugh, I think that’s okay - it wasn’t making little of what you had done, and it certainly would not invalidate your Confession.

Hope this helps; may God bless you. 🙂
 
Contrition can be either “perfect contrition” chiefly out of Love of God…or imperfect contrition:

Catechism:

1450 "Penance requires . . . the sinner to endure all things willingly, be contrite of heart, confess with the lips, and practice complete humility and fruitful satisfaction."49

Contrition

1451 Among the penitent’s acts contrition occupies first place. Contrition is "sorrow of the soul and detestation for the sin committed, together with the resolution not to sin again."50

1452 When it arises from a love by which God is loved above all else, contrition is called “perfect” (contrition of charity). Such contrition remits venial sins; it also obtains forgiveness of mortal sins if it includes the firm resolution to have recourse to sacramental confession as soon as possible.51

1453 The contrition called “imperfect” (or “attrition”) is also a gift of God, a prompting of the Holy Spirit. It is born of the consideration of sin’s ugliness or the fear of eternal damnation and the other penalties threatening the sinner (contrition of fear). Such a stirring of conscience can initiate an interior process which, under the prompting of grace, will be brought to completion by sacramental absolution. By itself however, imperfect contrition cannot obtain the forgiveness of grave sins, but it disposes one to obtain forgiveness in the sacrament of Penance.52
I’m sorry… I’m out of my element in this… Would the shame be considered imperfect contrition?
 
I’m sorry… I’m out of my element in this… Would the shame be considered imperfect contrition?
It could be. It could also accompany perfect contrition. But then it’s difficult (some might say impossible) to prove perfect contrition.
 
I’m sorry… I’m out of my element in this… Would the shame be considered imperfect contrition?
Contrition is largely an act of the will… our feelings do not always follow as we would like.

You could have imperfect contrition…you would have to judge… (read all of the above from the catechism)…the feeling shame can have been a tag along feeling…etc…

You do have to be sorry for the sin…to detest the sin…etc…but it can be from the consideration of the sins ugliness and fear of hell etc…

Imperfect contrition is enough for confession:

It is born of the consideration of sin’s ugliness or the fear of eternal damnation and the other penalties threatening the sinner (contrition of fear).
 
Please, help me judge. I am afraid of falling into despair, but I also don’t want to overlook something potentially big.

When I say shame, it was the embarrassment I felt within myself for helping someone else cheat on a test. Nobody reproached me. Even when I turned myself in, our teacher let it slide. In your opinion, would said shame be considered imperfect contrition?
 
Please, help me judge. I am afraid of falling into despair, but I also don’t want to overlook something potentially big.

When I say shame, it was the embarrassment I felt within myself for helping someone else cheat on a test. Nobody reproached me. Even when I turned myself in, our teacher let it slide. In your opinion, would said shame be considered imperfect contrition?
Are you intentionally going to do this again? You took it to confession knowing that it was wrong and you sought forgiveness. Feeling shame is not necessarily contrition but they can walk hand in hand. If the shame stemmed from the mere fact that you got caught (which is not your case) then you might only be sorry that you got caught.

Reading your posts I would say that your confession is valid and that you knew enough to turn yourself in and confess it. Let it go and enjoy the love of Christ. Also, realize that these failures become opportunities for us to grow…teachccd 🙂
 
Please, help me judge. I am afraid of falling into despair, but I also don’t want to overlook something potentially big.

When I say shame, it was the embarrassment I felt within myself for helping someone else cheat on a test. Nobody reproached me. Even when I turned myself in, our teacher let it slide. In your opinion, would said shame be considered imperfect contrition?
Set aside the question of shame…or embarrassment.

Where you sorry for your sins?

Why are you concerned? If it was mortal (which I am not saying it was)–are not you concerned cause you fear hell if you should die? Did you not have this reason to confess if you feared it was mortal (sgain not saying it was) (imperfect contrition)

If it was venial --are you not concerned that you would be punished due to the sin? Was this not your concern when you confessed? ( imperfect contrition)

Or at least sorry even out of the “ugliness” of the sin before God? Was this not your reason to confess? ( imperfect contrition)

Where you intending to not commit this sin again? were you sorry (in your will) for any and all mortal sins and resolved not to commit such…were you…sorry (in your will) for the venial sin ? Knowing the sin is the greatest of all evils. Where you seeking the sacrament…to refresh or renew your friendship God?

Read again the definition of contrition that is at least imperfect. Such contrition suffices with confession for forgiveness.

If you where sorry for the sin and had the purpose of amendment…if you wanted to be forgiven by God for the sin…and went to confession…I would think you would have had at least imperfect contrition…even out of the ugliness of the sin

Otherwise why would you go to confession to confess this???

It may be good for you to have a regular confessor…and bring these things up with him…and perhaps even mention your fear in confession…so the Priest can put you at ease…
 
To the OP:

Valid (as opposed to neurotic) shame can legitimately persist after a valid confession. Lingering shame serves a spiritual purpose, in reminding us of how we have hurt ourselves, specific others, The Church community, and Our Lord. Therefore, it increases humility, which is extremely beneficial for us in growing in the spiritual life. It makes us conscious of our need for mercy and therefore tends to prevent us from becoming complacent that we won’t need mercy again. Finally, that consciousness may make us interested in repairing a past sin or several past sins, by doing opposing works of virtue.

Thus, to benefit spiritually from the shame, we can practice honesty when another opportunity presents itself – such as admtting on a form or in person that we are not eligible for such-and-such benefit, reduced cost, etc., especially when in such applications or petitions “no one would know” otherwise. (We are choosing not to cheat.) At those opportunities we can make an interior, conscious act of reparation to God for past compromises to honesty.

There is no sin in my life, for which I have been forgiven, that I am not still ashamed about. And that goes back to childhood. I would think that if my shame had vanished, perhaps I was not previously contrite enough over that sin. But the Devil can tempt us to use that shame to avoid God (and our next confession), rather than to approach him with acknowledgement of shame. (Because shame is painful! It wounds are cherished pride and false sense of ‘worth,’ superiority, and self-sufficiency.) We only need to make certain that we are not allowing shame to overwhelm our hope and trust. Avoiding God due to lack of trust (despair, whether prompted by shame or anything else) is the danger.

So I try not to let shame become a barrier to prayer, the sacraments, and the theological virtues. If/when we feel overwhelmed by shame, it’s important to acknowledge that directly and honestly before God, and to lay our shame at the feet of our merciful Father and our merciful Redeemer. People way too often forget that God works in and through our feelings. Shame is a feeling. It should be offered to Our Lord at Lent in union with the Passion.
 
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