Confetti or catechumenate?

[Vic_Taltrees_UK]

Is communion over-hyped?

Go to communion more, more, more!

Catechumenate, to spend our lives learning to convert in our hearts and bear fruits of indwelling Jesus in the power of the Paraclete, has long been abolished.

The world demands we stop muttering about asking it not to join the communion queue.

Should we offer real bread?

 

[pianistclare]

One can’t over emphasize Christ’s gift of His very self.

 

[Graceful_Lamb]

Catholic Holy Communion is the Body and Blood of Jesus. It doesn’t get any better than that.

 

[Vic_Taltrees_UK]

One can’t over emphasize Christ’s gift of His very self.

You propose to emphasis it in the catechumenate? Why is that confusing?

 

[tawny]

Corinthians: “As often as you eat this Bread & drink this Cup; you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes again”. The Eucharist is the Body, Blood, Soul & Divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ. This is the core of our Catholic faith.

 

[pianistclare]

You propose to emphasis it in the catechumenate? Why is that confusing?

Your OP is confusing.

I’m out.

 

[Hoosier_Daddy]

Is communion over-hyped?

Go to communion more, more, more!

Catechumenate, to spend our lives learning to convert in our hearts and bear fruits of indwelling Jesus in the power of the Paraclete, has long been abolished.

The world demands we stop muttering about asking it not to join the communion queue.

Should we offer real bread?

I don’t understand what you are saying.

 

[Gregory_Olson]

Is communion over-hyped?

Go to communion more, more, more!

Catechumenate, to spend our lives learning to convert in our hearts and bear fruits of indwelling Jesus in the power of the Paraclete, has long been abolished.

The world demands we stop muttering about asking it not to join the communion queue.

Should we offer real bread?

In reality there’s no trade-off. Going to Mass doesn’t take away from catechesis or vice-versa. In fact there is a positive relationship between the two: developing as a catechumen should increase your desire for communion and going to mass should increase your desire for catechesis. Communion isn’t a means to an end, it’s the only end–communion is the reason the Church exists. Communion is the only goal of conversion of the heart and of bearing fruit through Jesus: increasing the latter at the expense of the former is nonsensical.

There’s no balance to strike–it’s all in or bust. That applies too on the question of what the conditions should be for receiving communion. Arguing to change the conditions to better suit our needs tries to strike a balance between our will and God’s that doesn’t exist.

 

[Polyphony]

Is communion over-hyped?

Of course not. Holy Communion is the most wonderful thing in the world.

Go to communion more, more, more!

Amen! Go every day, if you can.

Catechumenate, to spend our lives learning to convert in our hearts and bear fruits of indwelling Jesus in the power of the Paraclete, has long been abolished.

It has? I’m not sure I follow.

The world demands we stop muttering about asking it not to join the communion queue.

With all due respect to the world, it’s largely living in darkness, and is possessed by a spirit utterly opposed to God.

Should we offer real bread?

We offer the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus Christ to the Father. I’m not sure what you mean by “real” bread and who it is that you intend to offer it to.

 

[OraLabora]

Is communion over-hyped?

Go to communion more, more, more!

Catechumenate, to spend our lives learning to convert in our hearts and bear fruits of indwelling Jesus in the power of the Paraclete, has long been abolished.

The world demands we stop muttering about asking it not to join the communion queue.

Should we offer real bread?

I haven’t a clue what you’re talking about.

 

[Vic_Taltrees_UK]

In reality there’s no trade-off. Going to Mass doesn’t take away from catechesis or vice-versa. In fact there is a positive relationship between the two: developing as a catechumen should increase your desire for communion and going to mass should increase your desire for catechesis. Communion isn’t a means to an end, it’s the only end–communion is the reason the Church exists. Communion is the only goal of conversion of the heart and of bearing fruit through Jesus: increasing the latter at the expense of the former is nonsensical.

There’s no balance to strike–it’s all in or bust. That applies too on the question of what the conditions should be for receiving communion. Arguing to change the conditions to better suit our needs tries to strike a balance between our will and God’s that doesn’t exist.

Thank you Gregory, for giving the right answer.

Not only are the many completely uncatechised catholics complaining about discrimination, but lots of semi-catechised ones also.

I have appreciated the constructive advice to be more sparing in how often I join the communion queue in my circumstances (I am discussing penances so as to get the best benefits from confessions), but reportedly some don’t.

You have struck the right balance by calling for catechesis as well. Because without it, communion looked like smarties.

Ora and Polyphony, the bread I am referring to is the loaves (and fishes) provided to the crowds in groups (catechesis as a spiritual work of mercy) such that they had basketloads over (for evangelisation). Mt 14:14-21. To worship God was to not stunt the growth of those “widows and orphans”, and those of us who are confused why we ought or ought not to go to communion, what the faith is, etc. St Paul hoped to gain a crown by helping his flock gain theirs.