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I will be attending a Confirmation Mass today (which is a Saturday) at 7:00 PM. The readings at the Mass will probably be different from that used for the 32nd Sun. of Ord Time. Will this Mass fulfill my Sunday obligation?
 
I will be attending a Confirmation Mass today (which is a Saturday) at 7:00 PM. The readings at the Mass will probably be different from that used for the 32nd Sun. of Ord Time. Will this Mass fulfill my Sunday obligation?
Yes.
 
Can. 1248 §1. A person who assists at a Mass celebrated anywhere in a Catholic rite either on the feast day itself or in the evening of the preceding day satisfies the obligation of participating in the Mass.

A Mass, not ‘the Mass of the day’.
 
We have an obligation to attend Holy Mass either on Saturday evening (the local bishop will have determined from what time in the afternoon fulfills the obligation) or on Sunday. Whether the Mass is a Confirmation Mass, or a Nuptial Wedding Mass is not relevant. Any Mass within the time frame fulfills the obligation. The Church has ruled so.
 
Can. 1248 §1. A person who assists at a Mass celebrated anywhere in a Catholic rite either on the feast day itself or in the evening of the preceding day satisfies the obligation of participating in the Mass.

A Mass, not ‘the Mass of the day’.
I would suggest the OP consult their pastor on this matter since this is an item of Canon Law that is often misunderstood. Can 1248 has to also be taken with the regulation from the GIRM 357. Sundays and Solemnities have assigned to them three readings, that is, from a Prophet, an Apostle, and a Gospel, by which the Christian people are instructed in the continuity of the work of salvation according to God’s wonderful design. These readings should be followed strictly. In Easter Time, according to the tradition of the Church, instead of being from the Old Testament, the reading is taken from the Acts of the Apostles. Only if the readings used are the readings assigned for that weekend does the Mass qualify to meet your Sunday obligation. One has to look at the whole picture.
 
I would suggest the OP consult their pastor on this matter since this is an item of Canon Law that is often misunderstood. Can 1248 has to also be taken with the regulation from the GIRM 357. Sundays and Solemnities have assigned to them three readings, that is, from a Prophet, an Apostle, and a Gospel, by which the Christian people are instructed in the continuity of the work of salvation according to God’s wonderful design. These readings should be followed strictly. In Easter Time, according to the tradition of the Church, instead of being from the Old Testament, the reading is taken from the Acts of the Apostles. Only if the readings used are the readings assigned for that weekend does the Mass qualify to meet your Sunday obligation. One has to look at the whole picture.
It’s not the readings that decide whether you’ve met your obligation, it’s the fact that you were at A Mass.

If you attend the Vigil of Christmas on Christmas Eve it’s not the Mass of Christmas but it meets your obligation for Christmas because it is a Mass celebrated on the evening preceding the FEAST. The same goes for attending the Easter Vigil celebrated before midnight - it meets your obligation to attend a Mass on the evening before Easter.
 
I would suggest the OP consult their pastor on this matter since this is an item of Canon Law that is often misunderstood. Can 1248 has to also be taken with the regulation from the GIRM 357. Sundays and Solemnities have assigned to them three readings, that is, from a Prophet, an Apostle, and a Gospel, by which the Christian people are instructed in the continuity of the work of salvation according to God’s wonderful design. These readings should be followed strictly. In Easter Time, according to the tradition of the Church, instead of being from the Old Testament, the reading is taken from the Acts of the Apostles. Only if the readings used are the readings assigned for that weekend does the Mass qualify to meet your Sunday obligation. One has to look at the whole picture.
You are wrong.

The readings are irrelevant with regard to fulfilling the Holy Day obligation. If you attend a Mass on the evening before a Holy Day of Obligation your obligation is fulfilled no matter what the readings are.
 
Yes it says the readings should be followed. We don’t want to just go a whim of the priest or someone else. MY sister in law who was raised Baptist (now Presb.) said growing up a pastor would get stuck in one book forever. She likes that we go through so much of the Bible, They follow the readings of the Catholic Church) Nothing in that passage said if we don’t use the three reading it doesn’t count.

Just lately in our parish we celebrated World Mission Sunday. For that we broke away from the flow of ordinarry time. It still counted. We also celebrated All Soul’s Day during the Saturday evening Mass. It still counted for our obligation. I chose to go again on Sunday.
 
Yes it says the readings should be followed. We don’t want to just go a whim of the priest or someone else. MY sister in law who was raised Baptist (now Presb.) said growing up a pastor would get stuck in one book forever. She likes that we go through so much of the Bible, They follow the readings of the Catholic Church) Nothing in that passage said if we don’t use the three reading it doesn’t count.

Just lately in our parish we celebrated World Mission Sunday. For that we broke away from the flow of ordinarry time. It still counted. We also celebrated All Soul’s Day during the Saturday evening Mass. It still counted for our obligation. I chose to go again on Sunday.
How often do we have to repeat this.
The readings are NOT relevant to fulfilling the Sunday obligation. ANY Mass on Saturday evening fulfills the obligation no matter what the readings are at that Mass. Same applies to any evening Mass the evening before all other Holy Days of Obligation.
 
How often do we have to repeat this.
The readings are NOT relevant to fulfilling the Sunday obligation. ANY Mass on Saturday evening fulfills the obligation no matter what the readings are at that Mass. Same applies to any evening Mass the evening before all other Holy Days of Obligation.
While I understand where people have gotten this idea but unfortunately it is far from fact. Just because a lot of people say something and I realize there are numerous people on this website (which I love and recommend to everyone) take this point of view, doesn’t make it right. You can ask any liturgist and they will tell you that you are mistaken. To say that the readings don’t matter when it comes to a Mass fulfilling your weekend obligation is like saying you can come into Mass at the Creed and it qualifies as attending Mass, it doesn’t wash. A valid Mass is all three parts together, the Penitential Rite, the Liturgy of the Word and the Liturgy of the Eucharist. If you miss out on 2/3, well then, you have missed it. You can’t just show up for communion and then leave and say you attended Mass. The Church has set certain readings aside for certain Sundays for a reason, she wants you to receive a specific message on those weekends. Unless the appropriate readings are used for weekend funerals, weddings, and, yes, even Confirmation, then the Church does not consider it the obligatory Mass.

This has only been an issue over the past few decades. When I was growing up, it was never a question, we just knew. There was one Mass with certain readings, that fulfilled your Sunday obligation and all others didn’t. Vatican II didn’t change that. One also can’t take Canon 1248 out of CONTEXT. It has to be read with the GIRM, the Rubrics and the Sacramentary. This is really something that only a priest or bishop should determine, preferably the Office of Divine Worship at the USCCB. We warn people not to take Bible verses out of context, Canon Law, Encyclicals, etc… should be read in the same way.

As far as celebrating All Soul’s day on the weekend and having it fulfill one’s obligation, in the United States the Bishops allow for the celebration of the memorial. They also allow for other feast days to be optional on weekends such as Our Lady of Guadelupe, etc…but they usually have to fall within the 2 days of the weekend. When it comes right down to it, it is ultimately the decision of the bishops and then the priests. In both of these cases, questions should be referred to the individual pastors because there may not be one blanket answer and we can’t have all the facts for each incident.
 
While I understand where people have gotten this idea but unfortunately it is far from fact. Just because a lot of people say something and I realize there are numerous people on this website (which I love and recommend to everyone) take this point of view, doesn’t make it right. You can ask any liturgist and they will tell you that you are mistaken. To say that the readings don’t matter when it comes to a Mass fulfilling your weekend obligation is like saying you can come into Mass at the Creed and it qualifies as attending Mass, it doesn’t wash. A valid Mass is all three parts together, the Penitential Rite, the Liturgy of the Word and the Liturgy of the Eucharist. If you miss out on 2/3, well then, you have missed it. You can’t just show up for communion and then leave and say you attended Mass. The Church has set certain readings aside for certain Sundays for a reason, she wants you to receive a specific message on those weekends. Unless the appropriate readings are used for weekend funerals, weddings, and, yes, even Confirmation, then the Church does not consider it the obligatory Mass.

This has only been an issue over the past few decades. When I was growing up, it was never a question, we just knew. There was one Mass with certain readings, that fulfilled your Sunday obligation and all others didn’t. Vatican II didn’t change that. One also can’t take Canon 1248 out of CONTEXT. It has to be read with the GIRM, the Rubrics and the Sacramentary. This is really something that only a priest or bishop should determine, preferably the Office of Divine Worship at the USCCB. We warn people not to take Bible verses out of context, Canon Law, Encyclicals, etc… should be read in the same way.

As far as celebrating All Soul’s day on the weekend and having it fulfill one’s obligation, in the United States the Bishops allow for the celebration of the memorial. They also allow for other feast days to be optional on weekends such as Our Lady of Guadelupe, etc…but they usually have to fall within the 2 days of the weekend. When it comes right down to it, it is ultimately the decision of the bishops and then the priests. In both of these cases, questions should be referred to the individual pastors because there may not be one blanket answer and we can’t have all the facts for each incident.
With regard to fulfilling your obligation Canon Law does not state it is conditional upon the readings.

See canon law because that’s what counts. Tell me where it states anything about the readings in order to fulfill the obligation.

Can. 1248 §1 The obligation of assisting at Mass is satisfied wherever Mass is celebrated in a catholic rite either on a Holy Day itself or on the evening of the previous day.

By the way you are also wrong about what fulfilling the Mass entails in terms of how much of the Mass has to be participated in. The Church has NO document specifying that to fulfill your obligation you must participate in the entire Mass.
Similarly there is NO Church document specifying that a person who comes into Mass after a certain time is too late to fulfill the obligation.

There are no Church documents on any of the above three issues (readings, entire Mass, being late) that mean the obligation is not fulfilled.

While we should always make every effort to follow the golden rule that the priest should be last into Church and first out we fulfill our obligation simply by attending, and if it is the evening before again it is simply by attending ANY Mass (readings are not relevant).
 
How often do we have to repeat this.
The readings are NOT relevant to fulfilling the Sunday obligation. ANY Mass on Saturday evening fulfills the obligation no matter what the readings are at that Mass. Same applies to any evening Mass the evening before all other Holy Days of Obligation.
Thistle I honestly think you have misunderstood marytk’s point. She was saying that readings have to be followed according to what is laid down in the book, rather than the priest choosing ones that he likes.

But not that the reading determine whether or not a person has fulfilled their obligation. In other words, she was agreeing with you.
 
Thistle I honestly think you have misunderstood marytk’s point. She was saying that readings have to be followed according to what is laid down in the book, rather than the priest choosing ones that he likes.

But not that the reading determine whether or not a person has fulfilled their obligation. In other words, she was agreeing with you.
If that’s the case then yes I misunderstood and I apologise to marytk.
 
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