Confraterity of Ss. Peter & Paul

[Robster7]

Does anyone know anything about the Confraternity of SS. Peter and Paul, based somewhere in Ohio USA?
They offer for a modest fee an online version of Roman Brieviary.

Are they in line with RC Church, or another breakaway traditionalist org?

Seems like the latter, but can’t tell.

 

[LoyalViews]

From what I have seen of some of their books… they seem to preach against Vatican II, so I would not order from them. They seem to be maybe sede-vacantists? Either that, or among the lines of the SSPV (Society of St. Pius V) who are schismatic. If I were to buy a breviary, I would stick to the organizations and societies who are in communion with our glorious Holy Roman Catholic Church.

God Bless!

 

[bpbasilphx]

Are you referring to the site

www.breviary.net

which, so far as I know, is free.

At least, I’ve never been asked for any money, and I refer to it frequently, especially the Martryology.

 

[Solo1959]

Are you referring to the site

www.breviary.net

which, so far as I know, is free.

At least, I’ve never been asked for any money, and I refer to it frequently, especially the Martryology.

Seems to have recently changed. Now it costs $2.50 per month. Today it says:

“Please note that in order to cover our expenses in providing the Divine Office daily, there is a nominal monthly subscription charge of $2.50 per month. A discount is provided for yearly subscriptions. After completing and submitting the registration form above you will be directed to our Subscriptions page. We thank you for your interest in and support of the Breviary Online.”

Other than just now, I have never visited them so I can’t speak for the quality.

 

[Robster7]

Folks,

I believe it says breviary is accdg to 1911 rubrics or something like that.
Just wanted to confirm whether this was a rad trad org that is apart from the official RC Church. That was my impression.

LoyalViews,

Saw your blog with modern and trad. stained-glass window.

Modern one has what appears to be a Hilton hotel and a couple of signs that look like it’s a view of downtown Las Vegas or Reno, NV. What church is that from, and what city.

Thanks!

 

[Shin]

Here’s the Catholic Culture review, FWIF.

Apparently they’re sede-vacantist, which is news to me.

Which is a shame, as laypeople can say the office according to the older calendar since they don’t have an official obligation to fulfill, and there are some goods to the older calendar – I’ve certainly been contemplating trying it to get in touch with the past, and giving it a try.

That said that they went to the 1911 should’ve been a pointer to the sede position as they see anything Bugnini touched as being touched in a ‘bad way’, and so go back further to get away from that. Which I might add is understandable about Bugnini.

I do recall when they did not charge and was always disappointed to find they did.

 

[bpbasilphx]

Seems they don’t object to the 1911 Breviary, which had a radical redistribution of the Psalter, along with several other novelties, even though when St. Pius V promulgated the Tridentine Breviary, he said this was to be fixed and immutable, and called down the wrath of God and Ss Peter and Paul on anyone who would tamper with it–anticipating Quo primum 2 years later.

Of course, changes to the Breviary didn’t affect the people in the pew very much, did it?

 

[LoyalViews]

Folks,

I believe it says breviary is accdg to 1911 rubrics or something like that.
Just wanted to confirm whether this was a rad trad org that is apart from the official RC Church. That was my impression.

LoyalViews,

Saw your blog with modern and trad. stained-glass window.

Modern one has what appears to be a Hilton hotel and a couple of signs that look like it’s a view of downtown Las Vegas or Reno, NV. What church is that from, and what city.

Thanks!

It is from the Guardian Angels Cathedral in Las Vegas, my friend. Thank you for visiting my blog!

 

[Bohemian_Knight]

I was introduced to the website of the Confraternity of Saints Peter and Paul by a Praemonstratensian priest, who knows my conservative tastes. He assured me that the Roman Breviery on the website was not heretical or schismatic. He does not use it himself, satisfying himself with the current version of the Divine Hours.

 

[LoyalViews]

I was introduced to the website of the Confraternity of Saints Peter and Paul by a Praemonstratensian priest, who knows my conservative tastes. He assured me that the Roman Breviery on the website was not heretical or schismatic. He does not use it himself, satisfying himself with the current version of the Divine Hours.

Excellent. OP, I know you posted this a long time ago and if you’re still around, go ahead and use it.

 

[maddrell3]

The breviary.net site has one of the few (only) online Roman Breviaries. This form is still valid and is still widely used, although many who do use it have updated both the Scripture texts and the Martyrology.
One really feels one has prayed the Divine Office when using the Roman Breviary, taking nothing away from more modern forms like the Morning, Evening and Night Prayers in ‘Magnificat’, or on the eBreviary.
I particularly appreciate the excerpts from the homilies of the Church Fathers and Doctors.
If you want to know what Father Hall thinks about anything, just email him.

 

[maddrell3]

…and then, too, breviary.net is illustrated with an extraordinary collection of sacred art and photographs of shrines, station churches and places associated with the day’s feast or commemoration. If you prefer to listen to a sung office, a track is included for the psalms, the Benedictus, etc., - much of it from the English Catholic chant tradition.

Regarding the cost - it’s about half that of a ‘Magnificat’ subscription. Both are worth every penny.

Breviary.net uses the version of the Divine Office promulgated by St. Pius X.

 

[TradAvenger]

Seems they don’t object to the 1911 Breviary, which had a radical redistribution of the Psalter, along with several other novelties, even though when St. Pius V promulgated the Tridentine Breviary, he said this was to be fixed and immutable, and called down the wrath of God and Ss Peter and Paul on anyone who would tamper with it–anticipating Quo primum 2 years later.

The difference is, I think, that the 1911 revision to the Breviarium Romanum was made by Pope St. Pius X, the only (as of yet) canonized saint to hold the papacy in the 20th century. Therefore even the most radical traditionalist would give that a pass. Contrast that to the 1955 revision of Holy Week or the 1961 rubrics or the 1962 Missale Romanum, which are attainted by association with Archbishop Bugnini and therefore are completely and totally worthless, according to some.

 

[maddrell3]

Even cursory research into the development of the psalter reveals that there have probably been dozens of versions of the Divine Office over the centuries…seems to me whoever put them together, they have the same basic building blocks: an antiphon, a hymn, a psalm, a scripture reading, a responsory, intercessions, and the Lord’s Prayer.

Given that Blessed John Paul II and Benedict XVI both undertook to correct (or, reform, if you like) what have been called liturgical abuses deriving from misinterpretations of Vatican II’s pronouncements on the liturgy, one could allow that those who kept the ‘old ways’ close to their hearts were closer to the Council than many would have credited.

 

[Megan7]

The breviary.net site has one of the few (only) online Roman Breviaries. This form is still valid and is still widely used, although many who do use it have updated both the Scripture texts and the Martyrology.
One really feels one has prayed the Divine Office when using the Roman Breviary, taking nothing away from more modern forms like the Morning, Evening and Night Prayers in ‘Magnificat’, or on the eBreviary.
I particularly appreciate the excerpts from the homilies of the Church Fathers and Doctors.
If you want to know what Father Hall thinks about anything, just email him.