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melinda_s
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what is the difference between the confratnity edition and just the dr?
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tobinatorstark
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some updated language and word changes. I haven’t read it enough to look at its differences
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AmbroseSJ
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here’s a bibliography of the Douay-Confraternity.
The Confraternity New Testament, was basically the Challoner revision of the DR but updated still further for 20th century America. The editions from 1950 through 1953 are very good translations. The entries after 1953 were the first foreshadowing of the NAB. The Old Testament books called “the Confraternity Edition” being Genesis through Ruth are then translated from other received texts, and not the Vulgate. This was begun after 1943, when P.P.XII issued
DIVINO AFFLANTE SPIRITU
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JeanneH
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my copy has am Imprimatur from 1961
New Edition copyright 1962
Copyright 1957-1949 Catholic Book Publishing Co. NY I guess I need to find an old one published before 1957.
This copy belonged to my mother.
I don’t like the NAB so I am sorry to hear that this version is a forerunner to the NAB.
Jeanne
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AmbroseSJ
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A quick check of Gensis 3:15 would be your tip-off,
The old Vulgate would have:
The 1970 NAB has:
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bilop
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The Loreto version is originally from 1941, with the Imprimatur from Francis Cardinal Spellman.
God Bless
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JeanneH
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I also have the Imprimatur from Cardinal Spellman dated Nov. 1, 1961
Mine is the St. Joseph New Catholic Edition of the Holy Bible.
Copyright 1962 So I guess I have the forerunner to the NAB
God Bless
Jeanne
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JeanneH
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My Genesis 3:15 reads
I will put enmity between you and the woman, between your seed and her seed; he shall crush your head and you shall lie in wait for his heel.
Jeanne
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Jerry-Jet
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Confraternity Douay bibles from 1953 onwards have some of the Old Testament books other than Genesis in what would later be the NAB which was issued in 1970.
Look for Confraternity Douay Bibles from 1952 and earlier if you want the bible to come from the Vulgate.
The only exception is “Light of the World edition” Confraternity Douay bibles which were published in 1954.
Since even St. Jerome thought that his second attempt at translating the psalms–which would eventually become the Vulgate was not the most accurate–he translated them a third time from hebrew texts.
As far as I know that is only available in Latin.
The closest English translation that would be similiar to what he produced would be the Bea Psalter authorized by Pope Pious XII.
That psalter didn’t become part of the liturgy because it was difficult to sing or chant -and relied on classical Latin that was at times different than the earlier Latin that St. Jerome used.
It wasn’t metrical but as far as accuracy it is similar to St. Jerome’s last attempt at translating the psalms.
There is no perfect version of the psalms and I’m not advocating that the Bea Psalter is the greatest choice for the liturgy–I am saying that I believe it is the most accurate psalter that we have.
So my choice for the best available bible is a Confraternity Douay Bible with the Bea Psalms authorized by Pope Pious XII.
With that bible you get the Confraternity New Testament which while not perfect is based on the Vulgate in light of the Greek and is more readable than the Douay Rheims Challoner New Testament–no inclusive language–no liberal bias–no Protestant bias.
With that bible you get the Douay Rheims Challoner Old Testament which is based on the Vulgate–no inclusive language–no liberal bias–no Protestant bias–and more readable than the 1611 KJV because it was written in 1749.
And you get the Bea Psalms which while not based on the Vulgate entirely–are less in the direction of the Masoretic text that more recent translations use.
Those psalms are superior in my opinion to the Olinger Psalms which would later become the first NAB Psalms–they are closer to the Vulgate.
The way to tell if a bible from the early 50s has the Olinger Pslams is it will say Confratenrity Psalms and not “New Latin Psalms authorized by Pope Pius XII.”
One exception would be if you could find a bible that actually had the CCD Psalms of 1941 which are based on the vulgate–these are quit rare.
So if you want the best bible in my opinion go buy a Confraternity Douay bible from 1952 or earlier with an English translation of the New Latin Psalms authorized by Pope Pius XII.
I’ll go with its Vulgate based no error in doctrine accuracy over any other English translation out there!
Look for Confraternity Douay Bibles from 1952 and earlier if you want the bible to come from the Vulgate.
The only exception is “Light of the World edition” Confraternity Douay bibles which were published in 1954.
Since even St. Jerome thought that his second attempt at translating the psalms–which would eventually become the Vulgate was not the most accurate–he translated them a third time from hebrew texts.
As far as I know that is only available in Latin.
The closest English translation that would be similiar to what he produced would be the Bea Psalter authorized by Pope Pious XII.
That psalter didn’t become part of the liturgy because it was difficult to sing or chant -and relied on classical Latin that was at times different than the earlier Latin that St. Jerome used.
It wasn’t metrical but as far as accuracy it is similar to St. Jerome’s last attempt at translating the psalms.
There is no perfect version of the psalms and I’m not advocating that the Bea Psalter is the greatest choice for the liturgy–I am saying that I believe it is the most accurate psalter that we have.
So my choice for the best available bible is a Confraternity Douay Bible with the Bea Psalms authorized by Pope Pious XII.
With that bible you get the Confraternity New Testament which while not perfect is based on the Vulgate in light of the Greek and is more readable than the Douay Rheims Challoner New Testament–no inclusive language–no liberal bias–no Protestant bias.
With that bible you get the Douay Rheims Challoner Old Testament which is based on the Vulgate–no inclusive language–no liberal bias–no Protestant bias–and more readable than the 1611 KJV because it was written in 1749.
And you get the Bea Psalms which while not based on the Vulgate entirely–are less in the direction of the Masoretic text that more recent translations use.
Those psalms are superior in my opinion to the Olinger Psalms which would later become the first NAB Psalms–they are closer to the Vulgate.
The way to tell if a bible from the early 50s has the Olinger Pslams is it will say Confratenrity Psalms and not “New Latin Psalms authorized by Pope Pius XII.”
One exception would be if you could find a bible that actually had the CCD Psalms of 1941 which are based on the vulgate–these are quit rare.
So if you want the best bible in my opinion go buy a Confraternity Douay bible from 1952 or earlier with an English translation of the New Latin Psalms authorized by Pope Pius XII.
I’ll go with its Vulgate based no error in doctrine accuracy over any other English translation out there!
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centurionguard
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I too have a Douay Rheims version licensed under the Confraternity of Christian Doctrine, Washington, D.C. It’s a revision of the Challoner-Rheims version published by Catholic Press, Chicago, Illinois with the Approbation of His Eminence Samuel Cardinal Stritch
Archbishop of Chicago. copyright 1950, 1952, 1953, and 1954.
The Imprimatur was dated June 4th, 1953.
There’s well over 1,500 pages. 903. in the Old Testament 255 in the New Testament, including a 288 page extensive Catholic Encyclopedia.
Originally this Bible belonged to my Father who gave to me in his final Will.
I treasure it with a prayer to my Father every time I read from the blessed pages.
Originally it had a soft leatherette cover which deteriorated over the years from family use.
Later my father had it rebound like new by a group of Nuns from the Holy Cross Order.
Coincidentally; after the Imprimatur page is a copy of a Papal Letter from Pope Pius XII
speaking about the endearing loss of the famous American Holy Cross Priest Father Patrick Payton
Archbishop of Chicago. copyright 1950, 1952, 1953, and 1954.
The Imprimatur was dated June 4th, 1953.
There’s well over 1,500 pages. 903. in the Old Testament 255 in the New Testament, including a 288 page extensive Catholic Encyclopedia.
Originally this Bible belonged to my Father who gave to me in his final Will.
I treasure it with a prayer to my Father every time I read from the blessed pages.
Originally it had a soft leatherette cover which deteriorated over the years from family use.
Later my father had it rebound like new by a group of Nuns from the Holy Cross Order.
Coincidentally; after the Imprimatur page is a copy of a Papal Letter from Pope Pius XII
speaking about the endearing loss of the famous American Holy Cross Priest Father Patrick Payton
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melinda_s
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thanks looks like i’llto need find a 1950’s one guess i’ll checking ebay 
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melinda_s
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just found two one frond 1915 and the other from 1950 which one would be better?
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centurionguard
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I suppose both would be good for reference especially if you prefer the Douay Rheims and are not particular to the modern literary influences of Vatican II.
Any Douay Rheims version published prior to 1955 is probably the better choice.
Check this link: memorare.com/bibles/douayrheims.html for a free down-loadable
Microsoft Office/Word version.
Also see haydock1859.tripod.com/ for Haydock’s Catholic Bible Commentary, 1859 edition.
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