Confused? (abortion)

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I am not Catholic but looking at the Catholic faith and am very confused about the abortion issue in the Catholic church. I’m very prolife and am confused why there are so many Catholics that don’t follow the teaching of the Church, even priests in the Church?! So why, does it continue? Isn’t there some authority, especially for priests, to be reprimanded if they support what the is contrary to the Church’s teaching?? And what about Catholics who are very public about their prochoice stands? Don’t Catholics “excommunicate” those that teach what is contrary to the faith or isn’t that done anymore?? Not being Catholic, I just don’t know the protocol… Could someone answer these questions please.
Thank you and I will pray for the Catholic Church regarding this,
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I am not Catholic but looking at the Catholic faith and am very confused about the abortion issue in the Catholic church. I’m very prolife and am confused why there are so many Catholics that don’t follow the teaching of the Church, even priests in the Church?! So why, does it continue? Isn’t there some authority, especially for priests, to be reprimanded if they support what the is contrary to the Church’s teaching?? And what about Catholics who are very public about their prochoice stands? Don’t Catholics “excommunicate” those that teach what is contrary to the faith or isn’t that done anymore?? Not being Catholic, I just don’t know the protocol… Could someone answer these questions please.
Thank you and I will pray for the Catholic Church regarding this,
mlz
Obedient Catholics are pro-life. However, as with every large group of human beings (Catholics worldwide number over 1 billion) there are those that do not hold to aspects of the faith. Abortion is one of these. It’s very sad that there are Catholics that will embrace the culture of death and then continue to proclaim that they are Catholic because it gives those Catholics that are obedient to Church Teaching and Tradition a bad name.

On the issue of excommunication… any Catholic that knowingly takes part in an abortion is automatically excommunicated. “Taking part in” can be participating in the abortion, driving someone to an abortion, or even supporting a decision of someone who is trying to obtain an abortion. Of course, those type of Catholics will argue that they are not excommunicated, but if they so choose they can also argue that they can walk on water… but arguing it doesn’t make it so.
 
On the issue of excommunication… any Catholic that knowingly takes part in an abortion is automatically excommunicated. “Taking part in” can be participating in the abortion, driving someone to an abortion, or even supporting a decision of someone who is trying to obtain an abortion.

What about a priest doing this? Especially the “supporting a decision of someone who is trying to obtain an abortion” Does the bishop talk to him or someone “higher up”? What about the actions of Nortre Dame College? Can anything be done? (obviously prayer!)

Thanks for your reply,
mlz
 
What about a priest doing this? Especially the “supporting a decision of someone who is trying to obtain an abortion” Does the bishop talk to him or someone “higher up”?
If a priest who is aware of Church teaching concerning this matter, assists another in obtaining an abortion and extenuating circumstances (as mentioned in Canon 1323) do not exist, then he too would incur automatic (latae sententiae) excommunication. I would almost guarantee that if a Bishop was aware of such a priest in his diocese or archdiocese there would be some serious discussions taking place.
What about the actions of Nortre Dame College? Can anything be done? (obviously prayer!)
Aside from prayer, demonstrations, pleading, withholding future contributions to the institution, not sending our children there, what more can we do? Many Bishops have already spoken out against ND’s intentions, but in the end, the school is honoring a man whom they see as worth honoring despite his opinions concerning infanticide.
 
This is not an exact analogy, but thinking about the current period in the church always brings this to my mind.

Diocletian initiated a persecution of the church throughout the Roman Empire. His representatives entered a city or town and called all inhabitants into the square where a shrine to Jupiter was erected to which every inhabitant was required to pay homage. Christians were required to renounce Christ on pain of death. All holy books had to be surrendered and were burned. Many Christians suffered martyrdom, but many more including priests and bishops apostatized.

At length, Constantine emerged as the dominant of the tetrarchy, and the martyrdom ended. But the crisis for the church continued in as much as some portions of the church had remained faithful under great suffering while a large portion of the “faithful” had apostatized. Donatists in Carthage, decades later, rejected the claims of St. Augustine’s Christian community to the title Catholic since it had capitulated to imperial pressure long before. The church, in time, healed the crisis through special penances, understanding and time.

It was a small thing to kiss the feet of an idol, was it not? One can almost hear the voices rationalizing its utter meaninglessness, that preserving their lives would benefit society more than their ignominious demise, that those who perished were unreasonably radical. The Catholic conscience, it seems to me, suffers a type of Stockholm Syndrome in today’s society where the hostage accepts the rationalizations of the hostage taker and sympathizes with his antagonist.

The Catholic conscience in America today is held hostage by immoral jurisprudence divorced from natural law that has made itself an enemy of human life and of divine will. The Catholic response to that, at least to me, is not unlike Diocletian’s Catholics.
 
I am not Catholic but looking at the Catholic faith and am very confused about the abortion issue in the Catholic church. I’m very prolife and am confused why there are so many Catholics that don’t follow the teaching of the Church, even priests in the Church?! So why, does it continue? Isn’t there some authority, especially for priests, to be reprimanded if they support what the is contrary to the Church’s teaching?? And what about Catholics who are very public about their prochoice stands? Don’t Catholics “excommunicate” those that teach what is contrary to the faith or isn’t that done anymore?? Not being Catholic, I just don’t know the protocol… Could someone answer these questions please.
Thank you and I will pray for the Catholic Church regarding this,
mlz
Too many American Catholics are worried about being American rather than Catholic.
 
I am not Catholic but looking at the Catholic faith and am very confused about the abortion issue in the Catholic church. I’m very prolife and am confused why there are so many Catholics that don’t follow the teaching of the Church, even priests in the Church?! So why, does it continue? Isn’t there some authority, especially for priests, to be reprimanded if they support what the is contrary to the Church’s teaching?? And what about Catholics who are very public about their prochoice stands? Don’t Catholics “excommunicate” those that teach what is contrary to the faith or isn’t that done anymore?? Not being Catholic, I just don’t know the protocol… Could someone answer these questions please.
Thank you and I will pray for the Catholic Church regarding this,
mlz
Lots of reasons, but the main one is that they don’t think abortion is a big deal. Second to that is a deep love for the Democratic party and an abiding hate for the Republican party. A lot of Catholics were raised Democrat, and old loyalties die hard.
 
Lots of reasons, but the main one is that they don’t think abortion is a big deal. Second to that is a deep love for the Democratic party and an abiding hate for the Republican party. A lot of Catholics were raised Democrat, and old loyalties die hard.
I HATE POLITICS!! If all the Catholics who are Democrat and who voted for bo, had taken the MORAL view, rather than the political view, bo wouldn’t be POTUS. The reasoning that Catholic moral thinking and belief is either Dem. or Pub. is ridiculous, or should be to a faithful Catholic. Faith and Morals MUST be the basis of ANY action we as Catholics do, or don’t do. This is what gives moral fiber to a nation, not a political party. Boy, do I HATE POLITICS.
 
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