Confusion about feast days

[GloriousOrder]

Sorry, my friends, if this is a basic question, but I’m not sure where else to look. Whenever someone asks a stupid question, they’re always told to “just search on the internet!” When it comes to Catholicism, though, my beloved brethren on C.A.F. are my Google.

I am the proud owner of a free, used 1962 Missal. I respect and love the 1970 Missal. Both were given to us by the Holy Church of Christ, acknowledging the Father throughout the world. They are both to be used by those who, respectively, find one or the other Form most worshipful of Christ in their hearts. I’m a little confused regarding feast days, though. Has the Holy Catholic Church retained feast days for the 1962 Form if you’re saying the 1962 Form, and the feast days for the 1970 Form if you’re saying the 1970 Form? Does the Saint’s day “change” depending on the Form you ‘use’/attend? How could this be?

As an example: if you attend an Ordinary Form Mass on Jan. 28, you’re giving respect to and asking for the prayers of my beloved future patron and present brother, Saint Thomas Aquinas. If you attend an Extraordinary Form Mass on Jan. 28, it’s not Aquinas; instead, Aquinas is on March 7. Has the Church changed feast days for all Forms of the Mass to one Universal set of feast days, or what? Why does my 2004 Angelus Press Missal state that Aquinas’ feast day is March 7 if it’s actually Jan. 28?

 

[corsair]

A lot of things were done in 1970 that I don’t care for, however; when the church changes something and proclaims it to be so, then I’ll adhere to it.
When it comes to the 1962 Form of the Mass then I follow it precisely. What makes thing real fun is trying to follow the OF Ordo, the 1962 Ordo and the Dominican Ordo.

I find things very interesting this way. Keeps me “on my toes”. so to speak.

I just accept it as I can’t explain it. It is what it is!

 

[GloriousOrder]

Well, adherence vs. reality is my question. If God deigned to bring St. Thomas to the Eternal Kingdom on March 7, 1274, why has the Church changed the date of commemorate to Jan. 28? Logic does not necessarily have to dictate the change, naturally, but why was it done? Which date is the “real” day we honour Aquinas, in terms of objective Heavenly reality?

If Jan. 28 is the Church’s authoritative day for Aquinas, people following the 1962 calendar cannot be said to be honouring Aquinas or the Church’s decisions by celebrating his feast on March 7. If the Church changed the day to Jan. 28 and yet allows it to be celebrated on March 7, there seems to be no authority in this matter, but license. One is the right day and one isn’t!

 

[laszlo]

Well, adherence vs. reality is my question. If God deigned to bring St. Thomas to the Eternal Kingdom on March 7, 1274, why has the Church changed the date of commemorate to Jan. 28? Logic does not necessarily have to dictate the change, naturally, but why was it done? Which date is the “real” day we honour Aquinas, in terms of objective Heavenly reality?

The feast of the Saints were always changed. St Thomas Aquinas squeezed out St Perpetua and Felicitas from the Calendar in teh 14th Century. The new calendar restored their feast. Also March 7th usually falls on Lent, when the new calendar (exactly since 1955) properly does not allows festivity only commemorations. St Thomas Aquinas was promoted to the patron of the Universities. Now Catholic Universities could celebrate his feast properly.

The bottom line is that the eternal life is eternal = timeless. Only we are in time and the change in our earthly, time bounded terms does not changes the eternity, where St Thomas Aquinas lives.

 

[GloriousOrder]

Quite so, my friend. It’s more a pedantic question, but feast days are days that we people, still in time, use. We need reference, since God created time along with space… we are in space, so we require time-frames. Thanks be to God Aquinas is beyond the Gates of Eternity! My wish to commemorate him on a certain day is because of that truth! It’s practical in nature.

Are you saying that I can commemorate St. Thomas on Jan. 28, 2011 in an Ordinary Form Mass, and then commemorate St. Thomas on March 7, 2011 in an Extraordinary Form Mass? Obviously I celebrate that man and ask for his prayers every day in my heart, but this is liturgical in nature. Legitimacy and validity are everything, where the liturgy is concerned!

 

[laszlo]

Are you saying that I can commemorate St. Thomas on Jan. 28, 2011 in an Ordinary Form Mass, and then commemorate St. Thomas on March 7, 2011 in an Extraordinary Form Mass? Obviously I celebrate that man and ask for his prayers every day in my heart, but this is liturgical in nature. Legitimacy and validity are everything, where the liturgy is concerned!

I attended Ordinary form Mass in Sunday January 2nd, and the feast of Epiphany was celebrated. Being conservative I also attended Mass in January 6, that was Traditional Mass and again the feast of Epiphany was celebrated. Either the celebrant and his sermon was the same.

I am a particular being, nothing wrong happened to me through the double celebration, including the same sermon. I learned from that sermon even in the second time.