Confusion about offering up the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ

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I am stumped, but still I believe. The words “Eternal Father, I offer You the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Your dearly beloved Son, our Lord Jesus Christ…in atonement for our sins, and those of the whole world.”

These words are confusing to me. It’s like we are saying, “Lord, I tortured ;and killed Your Son, Who only loves me. And now, I am going to offer Him up to You, so that You may show mercy to me and the world.”

I KNOW that isn’t what the prayer is for. Can someone who is knowledgable help me to understand how to get past the words, and help me to understand how those words and the offering of Jesus’ Passion is something pleasing to God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit?
 
I think you need to get past the guilt and concentrate on gratitude! 🙂
Warm regards, Trishie
 
I am stumped, but still I believe. The words “Eternal Father, I offer You the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Your dearly beloved Son, our Lord Jesus Christ…in atonement for our sins, and those of the whole world.”

These words are confusing to me. It’s like we are saying, “Lord, I tortured ;and killed Your Son, Who only loves me. And now, I am going to offer Him up to You, so that You may show mercy to me and the world.”

I KNOW that isn’t what the prayer is for. Can someone who is knowledgable help me to understand how to get past the words, and help me to understand how those words and the offering of Jesus’ Passion is something pleasing to God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit?
The prayer is to offer Jesus’ Passion to the Father for our sins and the sins of the world. That is pleasing to the Father because Jesus, being God, made the one acceptable sacrifice for all time, for all sins, to God the Father. His Passion is the only way that sins can be taken away and that prayer is offering that Sacrifice for the salvation of ourselves and all the sinners in the world.

Maybe I’m missing where you’re confused?

Pax Christi tecum.
 
St Paul talked about filling up what is lacking in the sufferings of Christ. I think that is the purpose of the prayer. We are petitioning the Father to extend His mercy toward nonbelievers, and give them the time they need to repent and convert. Perhaps a person is rejecting Christ, or doesn’t know Him–we want God to bring that person into contact with the Risen Lord in a way that will result in the conversion and salvation of his soul. Each person who is converted to Christ is one more person who will pursue a life of pleasing God and advancing His Kingdom here on earth. In the end, that means atonement for the whole world. We pray that every soul will hear the Gospel and turn to Jesus. We leave the methods up to God but we plead the blood of Christ over everyone. I hope this helps. 🙂
 
I focus on the fact that Jesus willingly died for me so I may understand how to truly live.
When I say these words, I am begging God to love me (and the entire world) in the way He loves His Son; the reason is in Jesus’ own proof of how much He loves us all.
I know I do not have to beg for His love; I am constantly in awe that He loves me despite all my failures.

I find the Divine Mercy Chaplet to be a beautiful & humbling conversation with God.

Go with Love, Go with God
 
…The words “Eternal Father, I offer You the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Your dearly beloved Son, our Lord Jesus Christ…in atonement for our sins, and those of the whole world.” These words are confusing to me…
I have looked at it this way. Every single sin I do is an affront to God and hurts Him more than I can repay. Now, multiply that by about 6 billion sinners on the planet and you can imagine the debt that we owe to God.

What can I offer up to God to make a dent in this debt? What can all of us offer? Nothing. It is a debt we cannot repay, but It is however, the debt that Jesus paid in full for our sins, past present and future, on the cross. So, in the prayer we acknowledge that there is nothing we can offer in atonement for our sins, so we offer the gift that was freely given to us, the only gift we can offer, namely the passion of Jesus.
 
I am stumped, but still I believe. The words “Eternal Father, I offer You the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Your dearly beloved Son, our Lord Jesus Christ…in atonement for our sins, and those of the whole world.”

These words are confusing to me. It’s like we are saying, “Lord, I tortured ;and killed Your Son, Who only loves me. And now, I am going to offer Him up to You, so that You may show mercy to me and the world.”
You are correct in your conclusion. What you are missing is an often used bible verse, John 3:16, "God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him may not die buat may have eternal life."
I KNOW that isn’t what the prayer is for. Can someone who is knowledgable help me to understand how to get past the words, and help me to understand how those words and the offering of Jesus’ Passion is something pleasing to God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit?
The words “Eternal Father, I offer you the body and blood, soul snd divinity of your dearly beloved Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, in atonement for our sins and those of the whole world.” are the words of Jesus, the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity, which were dictated to St Faustina Kowalska in the 1930’s whom he, Jesus, tasked with getting the Feast of Divine Mercy started in the Universal Church to be celebrated on the Sunday after Easter.

The Feast of Divine Mercy was officially established for the Universal Church by a decree of the Vatican Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments on May 5, 2000 It is fitting that St Faustina, a Polish nun, was the first person canonized in the 21st Century by Pope John Paul II, a Polish pope.

I am on the Divine Mercy Cenacle for my Archdiocese which promotes the Divine Mercy Way of Life. One thing we learn from a statement of Jesus to St Faustina was "I desire Mercy, not Justice." What we see here is the expression of the infinite love of God for us, his sinful children, whom he, God, wants to spend eternity with him in heaven. Simply because he loves us. Yes, it is difficult to understand such an infinite love, because we are finite. But we are fortunate to have such a loving God.
Prayers & blessings
Deacon Ed B
 
I have looked at it this way. Every single sin I do is an affront to God and hurts Him more than I can repay. Now, multiply that by about 6 billion sinners on the planet and you can imagine the debt that we owe to God.

What can I offer up to God to make a dent in this debt? What can all of us offer? Nothing. It is a debt we cannot repay, but It is however, the debt that Jesus paid in full for our sins, past present and future, on the cross. So, in the prayer we acknowledge that there is nothing we can offer in atonement for our sins, so we offer the gift that was freely given to us, the only gift we can offer, namely the passion of Jesus.
That makes much sense. I stand in awe of the Mercy of GOD. As I said, I believe, and I say the prayer. But I have thought that I had no right to ask this of God, seeing as my sins were the cause of much of His Passion. Now I am reminded again that it has nothing to do with a “right”. It is a gift, freely given, freely recieved. I obey with gratitude, as I have nothing more than His Passion to offer to God. I stand in awe.
Thank you all for your answers to my question.
 
You are correct in your conclusion. What you are missing is an often used bible verse, John 3:16, "God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him may not die buat may have eternal life."

The words “Eternal Father, I offer you the body and blood, soul snd divinity of your dearly beloved Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, in atonement for our sins and those of the whole world.” are the words of Jesus, the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity, which were dictated to St Faustina Kowalska in the 1930’s whom he, Jesus, tasked with getting the Feast of Divine Mercy started in the Universal Church to be celebrated on the Sunday after Easter.

The Feast of Divine Mercy was officially established for the Universal Church by a decree of the Vatican Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments on May 5, 2000 It is fitting that St Faustina, a Polish nun, was the first person canonized in the 21st Century by Pope John Paul II, a Polish pope.

I am on the Divine Mercy Cenacle for my Archdiocese which promotes the Divine Mercy Way of Life. One thing we learn from a statement of Jesus to St Faustina was "I desire Mercy, not Justice." What we see here is the expression of the infinite love of God for us, his sinful children, whom he, God, wants to spend eternity with him in heaven. Simply because he loves us. Yes, it is difficult to understand such an infinite love, because we are finite. But we are fortunate to have such a loving God.
Prayers & blessings
Deacon Ed B
thanks, Ed. It’s amazing what I, having learned, have forgotten so easily…like John 3:16. You are correct. We are fortunate to be loved and in a relationship with God, Who doesn’t desire justice, but mercy. May God bless you all.
 
We’re acknowledging His love for us with that prayer. He wants us to be aware of His sacrifice so that we are confident of His Mercy. 🙂 Oh, I love Him so much! But He loves us so much more.
 
Here’s my reply from another forum.

Well, it just so happens that Vatican II teaches that all the faithful, who have the baptismal priesthood, can offer Jesus to the Father and unite themselves to Jesus, the perfect sacrifice; furthermore, pastors need to teach their flock this great mystery.

“The Church, therefore, earnestly desires that Christ’s faithful, when present at this mystery of faith, **should not be **there as strangers or silent spectators; on the contrary, through a good understanding of the rites and prayers they should take part in the sacred action conscious of what they are doing, with devotion and full collaboration. They should be instructed by God’s word and be nourished at the table of the Lord’s body; they should give thanks to God; by offering the Immaculate Victim, not only through the hands of the priest, but also with him, they should learn also to offer themselves…” (Sacrosanctum Concilium, n. 48)

“Thus the Eucharistic Action, over which the priest presides, is the very heart of the congregation. So priests must instruct their people to offer to God the Father the Divine Victim in the Sacrifice of the Mass, and to join to it the offering of their own lives.” (Presbyterorum Ordinis, n. 5)

The mystery was articulated at length by Pope Pius XII in his masterpiece encyclical on the liturgy, Mediator Dei. If you ever have the time, I strongly suggest reading it! Let me give you a lengthy excerpt (from nn. 84-93) which I believe will help to bear fruit in your prayers, particularly those of the Divine Mercy Chaplet, but most especially those which you offer at Mass.

Oh, but first, a bit of terminology will help here. A sacrifice has two parts: the death of the victim and the offering of the victim. The death is often called immolation (from the Latin immolare which means “to sacrifice”), and this is achieved in the Mass with the words of Consecration (“This is my Body”, “This is my Blood”). The offering of the victim is often called oblation (from the Latin oblata, a form of offerre, which means “to offer”). The priest, and he alone by virtue of his ordination, is the minister of the immolation; but as Mediator Dei explains, all of the faithful share in the oblation.

Now onto the quote:
(84) [W]e deem it necessary to recall that the priest acts for the people only because he represents Jesus Christ, who is Head of all His members and offers Himself in their stead. …

(85) However, it must also be said that the faithful do offer the divine Victim, though in a different sense. …

(86) “Not only,” says Innocent III of immortal memory, “do the priests offer the sacrifice, but also all the faithful: for what the priest does personally by virtue of his ministry, the faithful do collectively by virtue of their intention.” We are happy to recall one of St. Robert Bellarmine’s many statements on this subject. “The sacrifice,” he says “is principally offered in the person of Christ. Thus the oblation that follows the consecration is a sort of attestation that the whole Church consents in the oblation made by Christ, and offers it along with Him.”

(87) Moreover, the rites and prayers of the eucharistic sacrifice signify and show no less clearly that the oblation of the Victim is made by the priests in company with the people. For not only does the sacred minister, after the oblation of the bread and wine when he turns to the people, say the significant prayer: “Pray brethren, that my sacrifice and yours may be acceptable to God the Father Almighty;” but also the prayers by which the divine Victim is offered to God are generally expressed in the plural number: and in these it is indicated more than once that the people also participate in this august sacrifice inasmuch as they offer the same. …

(88) Nor is it to be wondered at, that the faithful should be raised to this dignity. … [T]hey participate, according to their condition, in the priesthood of Christ.

(89) It is fitting, then, that the Christian people should also desire to know in what sense they are said in the canon of the Mass to offer up the sacrifice. …

(90) First of all the more extrinsic explanations are these: it frequently happens that the faithful assisting at Mass join their prayers alternately with those of the priest, and sometimes - a more frequent occurrence in ancient times - they offer to the ministers at the altar bread and wine to be changed into the body and blood of Christ, and, finally, by their alms they get the priest to offer the divine victim for their intentions.

(91) But there is also a more profound reason why all Christians, especially those who are present at Mass, are said to offer the sacrifice.

(92) In this most important subject it is necessary, in order to avoid giving rise to a dangerous error, that we define the exact meaning of the word “offer.” The unbloody immolation at the words of consecration, when Christ is made present upon the altar in the state of a victim, is performed by the priest and by him alone, as the representative of Christ and not as the representative of the faithful. But it is because the priest places the divine victim upon the altar that he offers it to God the Father as an oblation for the glory of the Blessed Trinity and for the good of the whole Church. Now the faithful participate in the oblation, understood in this limited sense, after their own fashion and in a twofold manner, namely, because they not only offer the sacrifice by the hands of the priest, but also, to a certain extent, in union with him. It is by reason of this participation that the offering made by the people is also included in liturgical worship.

(93) Now it is clear that the faithful offer the sacrifice by the hands of the priest from the fact that the minister at the altar, in offering a sacrifice in the name of all His members, represents Christ, the Head of the Mystical Body. Hence the whole Church can rightly be said to offer up the victim through Christ. But the conclusion that the people offer the sacrifice with the priest himself is not based on the fact that, being members of the Church no less than the priest himself, they perform a visible liturgical rite; for this is the privilege only of the minister who has been divinely appointed to this office: rather it is based on the fact that the people unite their hearts in praise, impetration, expiation and thanksgiving with prayers or intention of the priest, even of the High Priest himself, so that in the one and same offering of the victim and according to a visible sacerdotal rite, they may be presented to God the Father. It is obviously necessary that the external sacrificial rite should, of its very nature, signify the internal worship of the heart. Now the sacrifice of the New Law signifies that supreme worship by which the principal Offerer himself, who is Christ, and, in union with Him and through Him, all the members of the Mystical Body pay God the honor and reverence that are due to Him.
 
thanks, Ed. It’s amazing what I, having learned, have forgotten so easily…like John 3:16. You are correct. We are fortunate to be loved and in a relationship with God, Who doesn’t desire justice, but mercy. May God bless you all.
It is important to remember that sometimes God’s mercy (especially to the oppressed) is justice and that you cannot have true holy mercy without justice.
 
That makes much sense. I stand in awe of the Mercy of GOD. As I said, I believe, and I say the prayer. But I have thought that I had no right to ask this of God, seeing as my sins were the cause of much of His Passion. Now I am reminded again that it has nothing to do with a “right”. It is a gift, freely given, freely recieved. I obey with gratitude, as I have nothing more than His Passion to offer to God. I stand in awe.
Thank you all for your answers to my question.
It may help if you meditate on how Jesus lovingly did the will of His Father by undergoing His Passion for the salvation of mankind. The only acceptable and worthy sacrifice that God could accept was from His only Son. Nothing we could have offered God would atone for the sins of mankind and open the gates of Heaven. Thus God loves for us to make our petitions and offerings through the Passion of His Son. It reminds Him that He loves us so much that He sent His only begotten Son into the world to die for us.
 
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=261976

This good answer might help to understand better what the chaplet prayers are about ; and O.P. is right - those words of the chaplet can be difficult to fathom …

Thanking our Lord , who is One with The Father , we thank The Father and The Spirit too …all in constant union and communion …

’ take up your cross and follow Me…’ - often , when we can be grateful for The Cross , The Infinite Love that it reveals , so that our hearts will look to same , esp. when we have to face our own , seems the gratitude can make the burden seem not so difficult and thus His intent to keep us in His peace become real

Blessings !!
 
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