Conscience?

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I did a search for the word “conscience” here on CAF. I was surprised that zero, zilch, nada results returned.

Well, maybe my Internet connection or CAF or my browser is broken for now, but still I remember so few topics about conscience here. And I actually was seriously disturbed. The Catechism writes this about conscience:

CCC 1776 “Deep within his conscience man discovers a law which he has not laid upon himself but which he must obey. Its voice, ever calling him to love and to do what is good and to avoid evil, sounds in his heart at the right moment. . . . For man has in his heart a law inscribed by God. . . . His conscience is man’s most secret core and his sanctuary. There he is alone with God whose voice echoes in his depths.”

There man is alone with God whose voice echoes in his debts… Not inspirations, not visions, not even clergy of the Catholic Church, but a well formed, certain conscience is the surest way to know what God’s will is in each moment of our lives.

CCC 1790 A human being must always obey the certain judgment of his conscience. If he were deliberately to act against it, he would condemn himself.

CCC 1778 … Conscience is a law of the mind; yet [Christians] would not grant that it is nothing more; I mean that it was not a dictate, nor conveyed the notion of responsibility, of duty, of a threat and a promise. . . . [Conscience] is a messenger of him, who, both in nature and in grace, speaks to us behind a veil, and teaches and rules us by his representatives. Conscience is the aboriginal Vicar of Christ.

But not only these, but since man’s conscience is his “most secret core and his sanctuary”, if we could recognize where in our heart conscience comes from, then if we can return to this wellspring of conscience to pray, then we are sure God hears us. This is one very consoling thought that I have always treasured.

Maybe that is one main reason for all of these neurotic posts about sin here in CAF, we have not emphasized the conscience well enough.

A Clarification on the Meaning of ‘Conscience’
 
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I did a search for the word “conscience” here on CAF. I was surprised that zero, zilch, nada results returned.

Well, maybe my Internet connection or CAF or my browser is broken for now, but still I remember so few topics about conscience here.
I’m pretty sure there is something wrong with the search feature. I haven’t been able to turn up any results for a couple days.
 
I’m pretty sure there is something wrong with the search feature. I haven’t been able to turn up any results for a couple days.
You are right. Its not working at all. I tried a few test searches for Jesus, Mary among others and it came back with no results.
 
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Maybe that is one main reason for all of these neurotic posts about sin here in CAF, we have not emphasized the conscience well enough.
When you pray at Mass, do you thank God that you are not like all those neurotic people on the Catholic Answers Forums?
 
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When you pray at Mass, do you thank God that you are not like all those neurotic people on the Catholic Answers Forums?
And why would I do that? I am as neurotic as all the people here, maybe even more so! I just thank the Lord for His gift of conscience, for it has saved me lots of times from sinking even more into neurosis and depression, and I just hope more people will recognize and use that precious treasure from our Lord. For as the Word of God Himself has said,

[BIBLEDRB]2 Corinthians 4:7[/BIBLEDRB]
 
The law in on my heart.

The Holy Spirit has opened up access to it and guides me.

Isn’t that what we’re after?

The funny thing people don’t realize is they think the law is written in human language and it isn’t. It is written into our very biology and always is guided by the Holy Spirit … except those who have passed the age of reason but have not yet been spirit-born – these people (most of us really) have to tough it out with behavior codes as a imperfect model or true justice and mercy.

Alan
 
I don’t like that last post of mine. Please disregard. 😦
 
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I don’t like that last post of mine. Please disregard. 😦
Why not? I think it is a great post 👍

Let me make some comments on it.
The law in on my heart.

The Holy Spirit has opened up access to it and guides me.

Isn’t that what we’re after?

The funny thing people don’t realize is they think the law is written in human language and it isn’t. It is written into our very biology and always is guided by the Holy Spirit … except those who have passed the age of reason but have not yet been spirit-born – these people (most of us really) have to tough it out with behavior codes as a imperfect model or true justice and mercy.

Alan
I wholly agree with your post up to the point before the ellipses. The following of “behavior codes” need not be the end-all of morality. Indeed, according to Scripture (St. Paul primarily) and the Church, it must not be. The end-all of morality is not the Law, but Love. The goal of our morality is St. Augustine’s dictum, “Love, then do what you will.” You see, when we love, we do not need to know the Law, for the Law actually just tells us what the Lover wants and does not want. But when we love, we come to know what the Lover wants and does not want almost instinctively, and that “instinct” comes from our conscience.

[BIBLEDRB]Romans 13:8[/BIBLEDRB]
[BIBLEDRB]Galatians 5:14[/BIBLEDRB]

But does that mean we must now disregard all of the Church and Scripture’s teachings and commandments? By no means! I said that conscience almost instinctively knows what the Lover wants, for it can almost instantaneously judge the morality of most actions. But there will be times that conscience will have difficulty judging some past or potential actions until it receives guidance through faith, study, or friends. The article I referenced to in the first post makes an example on this (Scroll down to the section that starts with “Let us say…”).

In other words, while you are correct that the Holy Spirit writes in our hearts His Law through biology, that is not the whole picture: the Holy Spirit still now writes His Law into our hearts through Faith and Providence. This is called the formation of conscience, and it is a very important lifelong responsibility for us to cooperate with the Holy Spirit in this.

The Catechism on the Formation of Conscience
 
Why not? I think it is a great post 👍
Thank you.

It is very hard for me to know how to post because I’ve been receiver of huge changes lately and I have to learn to communicate all over each time because my ways of looking at things change and sometimes put people off or scare them. I’m trying to be more “user-friendly.”

But yes, I think maybe I wasn’t giving the HS “full credit” and maybe I’m pulling my punches because when I get too “hung up” on being spirit-led or being born of the spirit, people get weird. I don’t know when I’m speaking out, or when I’m just repeating what we claim to believe, or sometimes IMO both. Maybe I was too quick to dismiss the Holy Spirit’s role in our initial conscience training and behavior modification in our first stages of our spiritual lives. What was really weird is that after I wrote that our sermon today turned out to be about the law written on the heart.

Alan
 
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