Consecration to Mary and Jesus at the same time?

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Okay so I’m have problems wrapping my head around how you can consecrate yourself to two different things at the same time. Consecration means setting yourself wholly apart for something. So how can you wholly set yourself apart for two different things?

I know that with Mary the consecration is to Jesus through Mary, but it is still confusing to me. I’ve done the 33 Days to Morning Glory but the wording in some of the reflections makes it sound like you give everything to Mary so she can give it to Jesus in the best way. However, you’re not giving it to Jesus only to Mary. So being consecrated to Mary how could you, for example, say the Act of Consecration to Jesus prayer?

How am I seeing this wrong, and what could you tell me to better wrap my head around it?
 
If we have true devotion or are totally consecrated to Our Lady, we go to Our Lord through her, which is always the holiest and perfect way.
Now some would say since now that we are the property or slave of Mary, our prayers automatically go directly to Jesus if we mention her or not.
This may be true but I take no chances. From what I understand after reading Maximilian Kolbe’s writings, we do well to always invoke the Immaculata, however briefly, after the sign of the Cross, before all prayers. We know it is a grace to get closer to Jesus. And all graces pass through the Immaculata.
Keep in mind…
All graces come to us starting from the Father, through the Son, through the Holy Spirit, through the Immaculata to us.
All response to God’s grace goes back the way it came, through Mary, through the Holy Spirit, through Jesus, and back to the glory of the Father.
 
I look at it as Christ being the 5-star general, and Mary’s being the 4-star general under Christ, and I say: I consecrate myself to the Sacred Heart of Jesus through the Immaculate Heart of Mary. By consecrating ourselves to Mary, we are automatically consecrating ourselves to Christ, as she is cinsecrated to Him.
 
Pax et Bonum! Jesus and the Blessed Mother both had a part or mission in the salvation of souls; Mary with her Fiat and Jesus with His life, death and resurrection.

Mary, being the dispenser of all graces also purifies our prayers while presenting them to Jesus; she point us to her Son.

The Consecration you speak of certainly would involve both Jesus and His Mother; our Saviour - our Mother. You are under their mantle and protection! God bless you! angeltime:crossrc::gopray2:
 
(For consideration and thought)

As a human being, are you able to consecrate yourself to both your (earthly) father and mother at the same time?

Do you not love and respect both?
 
Thanks for the answers guys they helped and gave me a bit to think about. I really liked how it was explained the path by which grace travels, never thoughts about it going through all the persons of the trinity before. I think my problem lies in the fact that there was only a small amount of reflections from St. Maximilian Kolbe in the 33 Days to Morning Glory and it wasn’t enough to get the wholeness of his teaching across. I think I’m going to pick up a book by him to clear that up. Thanks again, God bless.
 
I don’t understand these “consecrations” because they make it sound as if Baptism and Confirmation are “not enough.”

Properly formed in our faith, we have a destiny to be holy and to live holy lives, as much as we can.

It makes it sound as if the gospel isn’t enough, and that somebody in the 12th century or so discovered really how to live. Private revelations are intended, the church says, for the person who receives them.

St. Joseph and Mary prayed directly to God. Why don’t we just imitate them?

From what I understand, all the graces we receive flow “through” Mary. I don’t understand that. supposedly, it has to do with Mary’s “fiat” – let it be done to me according to your word (speaking to the angel). But, St. Joseph made his own “fiat” when he had a revelation from an angel in a dream. So, why don’t all graces flow through St. Joseph, too? He did God’s will just like Mary did. (refer to the gospel readings for the 4th Sunday of Advent and for Christmas Eve of 2016). In the case of St. Joseph, we don’t have a gospel record of him saying anything, because the revelation from the angel came to him in a dream. But, still, he did God’s will in everything, as far as we know.
 
ssssfire52 said:
Thanks for the answers guys they helped and gave me a bit to think about. I really liked how it was explained the path by which grace travels, never thoughts about it going through all the persons of the trinity before. I think my problem lies in the fact that there was only a small amount of reflections from St. Maximilian Kolbe in the 33 Days to Morning Glory and it wasn’t enough to get the wholeness of his teaching across. I think I’m going to pick up a book by him to clear that up. Thanks again, God bless.
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Here’s the breakdown of the the MI Act of Consecration to Mary
 
psalm90 said:
I don’t understand these “consecrations” because they make it sound as if Baptism and Confirmation are “not enough.”

Properly formed in our faith, we have a destiny to be holy and to live holy lives, as much as we can.

It makes it sound as if the gospel isn’t enough, and that somebody in the 12th century or so discovered really how to live. Private revelations are intended, the church says, for the person who receives them.

St. Joseph and Mary prayed directly to God. Why don’t we just imitate them?

From what I understand, all the graces we receive flow “through” Mary. I don’t understand that. supposedly, it has to do with Mary’s “fiat” – let it be done to me according to your word (speaking to the angel). But, St. Joseph made his own “fiat” when he had a revelation from an angel in a dream. So, why don’t all graces flow through St. Joseph, too? He did God’s will just like Mary did. (refer to the gospel readings for the 4th Sunday of Advent and for Christmas Eve of 2016). In the case of St. Joseph, we don’t have a gospel record of him saying anything, because the revelation from the angel came to him in a dream. But, still, he did God’s will in everything, as far as we know.
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There are endless resources about Mariology on the web.
Perhaps start by watching this video:
The Truth About Mary and Scripture: MUST SEE!
And give this a read:
Saint Catherine Laboure Of The Miraculous Medal by Fr. Joseph Dirvin
 
ssssfire52 said:
Okay so I’m have problems wrapping my head around how you can consecrate yourself to two different things at the same time. Consecration means setting yourself wholly apart for something. So how can you wholly set yourself apart for two different things?

I know that with Mary the consecration is to Jesus through Mary, but it is still confusing to me. I’ve done the 33 Days to Morning Glory but the wording in some of the reflections makes it sound like you give everything to Mary so she can give it to Jesus in the best way. However, you’re not giving it to Jesus only to Mary. So being consecrated to Mary how could you, for example, say the Act of Consecration to Jesus prayer?

How am I seeing this wrong, and what could you tell me to better wrap my head around it?
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I agree it is PROFOUND:)

BUT they do NOT contradict, as everything Mary desires is exactly what Jesus desires.

Mary LEADS Souls to Her Son Jesus. Amen

Have a Blessed and Merry Christmas

Patrick
 
Psalm90- Perhaps this will make it clearer,

Baptism makes you a child of God and so forth. However you have rights over yourself and your spiritual goods. These voluntary consecrations are voluntary surrendering’s of these rights and complete abandonment, to Jesus, voluntarily becoming a slave of Mary.

For example, one may offer up merits of a penance for some particular person. For the Consecrated however those merits are not ones own they belong to Mary to do as she chooses with them, (though one can still offer them for the person their is no guarantee of where they are applied because the rights have been voluntarily surrendered).

Really one needs to read DeMontfort to fully understand the concept of total Consecration to Jesus through Mary.
 
Pax et Bonum! Yes, the consecration is about one’s intention and commitment to offering themselves for the Blessed Mother and Jesus to use as they desire and see the needs. As you said, it could be for penance, for the elderly, for wars and famines - all sorts of things including conversion of souls or peace in the world and Church. angeltime[BIBLEDRB][/BIBLEDRB]
 
Googler said:
We know it is a grace to get closer to Jesus. And all graces pass through the Immaculata.
Keep in mind…
All graces come to us starting from the Father, through the Son, through the Holy Spirit, through the Immaculata to us.
All response to God’s grace goes back the way it came, through Mary, through the Holy Spirit, through Jesus, and back to the glory of the Father.
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That’s quite the telephone game for grace…

However, your statements are not true. This is not true grace can come to us directly from God, directly through the sacraments or through the intercession of others - including the most holy mother of God Mary

I highly recommend the book “The Question of Mary” by Fr Rene Laurentin a world renown Marian scholar as a good starting point to understand the various degrees of Marian devotion… it is certainly not wrong to go to Mary for intercession, but you are not obligated to. While God can and does distribute grace through others, Jesus says clearly is the sole mediator between God and man and to deprive him of that fact, would be wrong. This means that he does and will continue to act that way.
 
psalm90 said:
From what I understand, all the graces we receive flow “through” Mary. I don’t understand that. supposedly, it has to do with Mary’s “fiat” – let it be done to me according to your word (speaking to the angel). But, St. Joseph made his own “fiat” when he had a revelation from an angel in a dream. So, why don’t all graces flow through St. Joseph, too? He did God’s will just like Mary did. (refer to the gospel readings for the 4th Sunday of Advent and for Christmas Eve of 2016). In the case of St. Joseph, we don’t have a gospel record of him saying anything, because the revelation from the angel came to him in a dream. But, still, he did God’s will in everything, as far as we know.
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Some in the Church believe that all grace flows through Mary, but not all. The Church does not require you to believe this… despite what the more extreme Marian element would have you believe.
 
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