Contemplative Prayer--Do you?

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Contemplation, meditation, … :confused: But I am learning bit by bit and it is interesting when I have tried it. Please know that your posts are helping someone here a lot.
Speaking of contemplation and meditation, what’s the difference between these? I tend to be confused 🙂
 
Speaking of contemplation and meditation, what’s the difference between these? I tend to be confused 🙂
The Catechism of the Catholic Church gives some wonderful explanations.

paragraphs 2705-2708 - Meditation

paragraphs 2709-2719 - Contemplative prayer.

God bless.
 
For many years I have been blessed to be part of a contemplative prayer group…we sit in the silence in a candlelit room and just allow the Holy Spirit to fill our hearts. We start our prayer with the Scripture, “Be still and know that I am God”. It is a process of learning to be open to the Quiet Voice of God. It is a time of healing and time for sharing the Pure Love of our Lord. On other days, other than when the group meets, and I am hoping for the prayer of the quiet, I go to our adoration chapel. Sitting in front of the Lord, not asking for anything or telling Him anything, just being “with Him” and enjoying His most amazing company. The prayer of the quiet is the most calming, beautiful experience. On days when I am not able to make it to the chapel, I briefly think of our Lord’s face, and before long His Peace and Calm fill my soul and I can just sit with Him and share precious moments. It is a process of learning to just sit and be with Him in quiet and stillness.
 
The word “contemplation” means different things to different people. In the truest sense (as several posters have mentioned) contemplation is “passive” prayer; a gift from God and not something we can practice of our own effort.

Much of what has been mentioned in this thread is actually “active” prayer . . . rosary, meditation, lectio, mental prayer and so on. By active I mean we are applying our minds and hearts . . . using the faculties of our soul (intellect, will and memory) . . . to reach out to God. This is not contemplative prayer in the sense of how the mystical Doctors present it . . . precisely because these methods are all active. Each method, however, can predispose us for contemplation . . . should God wish to give it.

There is also a way of prayer that some theologians call “acquired contemplation.” This is when a soul . . . through the fruit of his own effort and aided by grace . . . becomes habitually recollected to God. Prayer becomes very simplified and non-discursive . . . perhaps nothing more than simple aspirations. However, the soul is continually aware of God’s presence in all that he does. The prayer tends toward the wordless and formless as an expression of the unitive presence the soul continually tastes. So active ways of prayer aren’t necessarily helpful anymore as the soul has arrived at the “end” those “means” are meant to lead us. Good examples of this way of prayer would be Brother Lawrence’s “Practice of the Presence of God” and “The Cloud of Unknowing.”

“Infused contemplation” is what the mystics typically speak of. These are brief moments when God stills the faculties of the soul. The prayer is dark and obscure . . . not based in thoughts, words or feelings. It is more of a simple gazing on Truth without reflection, analysis or introspection. We aren’t doing (active) . . . we are be-ing (passive). So, in a sense, it is the “opposite” of meditation which is discursive by nature. Again, this is not something we can do . . . it is His gift . . . and it can (and often does) flow from the active ways of prayer previously mentioned.

If we were to look at St. Teresa’s mansions in “Interior Castle” we’d see that the active ways of prayer tend to dominate the first two mansions; acquired contemplation is typically of the third mansion and infused contemplation is what she describes in the fourth-seventh mansions.

These varying definitions can be very confusing . . . and conversation on this subject can be very difficult sometimes when people are coming from different perspectives . . . yet using the same words to describe what they mean.

Hope this helps!
Dave 🙂
 
Thanks Dave, that post was special and helpful. Give us more anytime.

I really need to re-organize my schedule again, Lord help me set the priority of You!
 
I do not ask You to take them out of the world, but to keep them from the evil one. John 17:15
Lord keep us from that evil one. In the name of Jesus Christ.

I’m facing a lot of ups and downs, but one thing for sure, now that I’ve exposed myself to attempting to practice contemplative prayer, there’s no turning back. I find myself missing it and wanting that time…

It’s not easy and I know I have a long journey ahead of me. Most times I have so many distracting thoughts, but I keep going back the the Bible verse that I am focusing on, or just say “Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner.”

The struggle with setting aside the time, with distractions, it’s all worth it.
 
“From eternity to eternity I am God. No one can snatch anyone out of my hand. No one can undo what I have done.” Isaiah 43:13

Lord God, you are the Eternal One. We praise you and want to be your servants. Forgive my sin of pride. In the name of Jesus Christ.

When I was a kid, I used to love to try to climb up the sand bank…such a challenge…with sifting sands, nothing to grip on, trying over and over again, laughing as the sand bank wins every time.
That’s how I feel sometimes with my efforts to be consistent with contemplative prayer. Got to start all over.
I was listening to a program on EWTN about Ignatius of Loyola, the founder of the Jesuits. He wrote a book about 'spiritual exercises" that gave me an idea, to try to set small goals of a routine, and some use his “first week” as a beginning.
I want to thank from the bottom of my heart all those of you who have reached out a helping hand to me in this journey of mine. Please keep your thoughts and suggestions coming. I feel so alone in the world sometimes and your friendship helps.
May God bless us all in our spiritual journeys. In the name of Jesus Christ.
 
Thanks for posting these, they’re really interesting 🙂

In a funny way, the time when I’m able to engage in contemplative prayer as a natural way of praying is when I’m most seriously ill 🤷
I guess it is because in illness we feel closer to Jesus if we unite our suffering with Him. And for us to do this, we are contemplating His suffering.

I have found it as I get older and struggle with illness myself, it is easier than it had been when I was younger and was healthy.

God bless.
 
I guess it is because in illness we feel closer to Jesus if we unite our suffering with Him. And for us to do this, we are contemplating His suffering.

I have found it as I get older and struggle with illness myself, it is easier than it had been when I was younger and was healthy.

God bless.
I certainly identified a bit with Jesus at the time. I was stage managing medieval Passion plays during a six month psychotic episode/nervous breakdown and was dealing with huge Catholic guilt over the crucifixion and scourging scenes. It made me see the Bible stories in my own life 🙂

IMO means “in my opinion” 👍

God bless you too 🙂
 
I certainly identified a bit with Jesus at the time. I was stage managing medieval Passion plays during a six month psychotic episode/nervous breakdown and was dealing with huge Catholic guilt over the crucifixion and scourging scenes. It made me see the Bible stories in my own life 🙂

IMO means “in my opinion” 👍

God bless you too 🙂
You know I have taken it to make sure that there is a crucifix in every room in my home. I make sure that I can see the crucifix when I am in bed or on the computer. I also just look at the crucifix and think of His Passion. Ever since, I have started doing this, things have been a little more bearable.

And thanks for explaining IMO, now I can use it lol.

God bless.
 
Sadley I donot remember names when people ask me if I do this or that I studied contemplatide and also tje other one but I have no memory or names only the actions of them. Wish I could some how.
Godbless
littleone
 
St Theresa of Avila has some helpful hints and advice, and I think she’s a pretty good model to follow, so I’ve been using some of her ideas (Look at him… just look at him). Lectio, too, is a great starting point and I’ve been using passages in the bible to help focus my mind. Sometimes it works, and sometimes I just fall asleep - so LittleOne is absolutely right when they say that God’s grace plays an important part in the contemplation!

But the effort is there, and important, and so is practice. 🙂
I just came upon this thread and my first thought was “St. Theresa of Avila”. I’m reading her book “Interior Castle” which is exactly about the path leading from rudimentary, vocal prayer all the way to unitive or contemplative prayer. It absolutely requires more than just the desire to enter into that level of prayer. From what I’ve read so far it’s a very deep process that changes your whole life. The gist so far that I’m getting is; you don’t get to that level until you give up every human desire, that all you do/say/think is geared toward union with God. I may be off a bit because I’m still reading the book.

To the OP, I highly recommend the book! It’s tailor made for a person desiring contemplative prayer.
 
Sadley I donot remember names when people ask me if I do this or that I studied contemplatide and also tje other one but I have no memory or names only the actions of them. Wish I could some how.
Godbless
littleone
Good Lord what is this???
As you can see, i have a dificulty in that at times my mind takes a path of it’s own, and sadly to say no one ( me especially) can understand what I have writen (as above).
But when it comes to living a contemplative life then it is different.
For me, I guess with many of you when you fall in love with Jesus then all of your life relates around His life, that is, the Bible, His works, His word, His forgiveness, since it becoms more and more alive.
Mary becomes your mother, the saints your brothers and sisters in your new spiritual life. All people on earth become your brothers and sisters so that you see no difference regardless, between any person and your self.
So I guess your life realy becomes contemplative in most if not all forms.
Only difference is that you think spiritual not fleshly.
Guess I must say you fall in love with Love, to become littler and littler.
Amen amen amen.

God bless
littleone
 
I highly recommend: “Fire Within” book by Fr. Dubay and “Interior Castle” by Saint Teresa of Avila. Plus the videos: “Prayer Quests” and “Contemplation” both by Fr. Dubay.
 
For many years I have been blessed to be part of a contemplative prayer group…we sit in the silence in a candlelit room and just allow the Holy Spirit to fill our hearts. We start our prayer with the Scripture, “Be still and know that I am God”. It is a process of learning to be open to the Quiet Voice of God. It is a time of healing and time for sharing the Pure Love of our Lord. On other days, other than when the group meets, and I am hoping for the prayer of the quiet, I go to our adoration chapel. Sitting in front of the Lord, not asking for anything or telling Him anything, just being “with Him” and enjoying His most amazing company. The prayer of the quiet is the most calming, beautiful experience. On days when I am not able to make it to the chapel, I briefly think of our Lord’s face, and before long His Peace and Calm fill my soul and I can just sit with Him and share precious moments. It is a process of learning to just sit and be with Him in quiet and stillness.
😃
 
everything I’ve said have been just words in my own head. anything I’ve tried to do amounts to spinning my wheels. it works great for other people but I guess I’m just not called.
 
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