Contemplative Prayer

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I have a friend who is a “Research Analyst” whose area of expertise is that of the Contemplative Prayer movement. My friend has a conservative (Fundamentalist) background and he has written two books about Contemplative Prayer and the so-called “New Age” movement. In his writings and lectures, he points to the similarities between Catholic contemplatives and those of the East (Buddhist/Hindu, etc.).

He says that the Contemplative Prayer movement for Christians (be they Catholic or Orthodox, or whatever) has its origins with the Desert Fathers. He goes on to state that things like Centering Prayer or the Jesus Prayer (for example) are no different than forms of meditation used by Buddhist monks or Hindu gurus. But instead of using “OM” or some such phrase, Christians substitute that sound with a "Prayer word or words (like the Jesus Prayer). All this he says leads to an emptying of the mind and leaves the door open for all sorts of occultic practices: Yoga, Reiki, Tantric sex, etc. Now I am getting very long winded here, so let me ask my question: Is there any inherent dangers in the Catholic/Orthodox Contemplative Prayer movement? Should one avoid Centering Prayer or the Jesus Prayer, and meditation all together? What say ye? What is your opinion(s) about Contemplative Prayer? Do you engage in it yourselves and what benefits have you discovered as a result of it? I await your responses. God Bless.
 
the jesus prayer and other prayers is not about emptying the mind. if anything it would be the opposite and trying to fill it with the Lord.
 
centering prayer is a banned topic on this forum
contemplative prayer in the Christian tradition is NOT centering prayer
direct him to classic Catholic spiritual masters such as the desert fathers, John of the Cross, Teresa of Jesus and so forth
the best introduction I know of for those who want to know who those masters are is Fr. Groeschel in his books on each of those persons, and Journey Toward God, and Spiritual Journey
 
All this he says leads to an emptying of the mind and leaves the door open for all sorts of occultic practices: Yoga, Reiki, Tantric sex, etc. .
To engage in a practice of emptying anything spiritually is bad path for any Christian to go down. Our path of spirituality is a constant exercise of giving away and receiving Jesus with the Holy Spirit, and our prayer life should also reflect this reality.

But he is correct, if you empty yourself you can never be sure what will enter into that vacuum.

God Bless!
 
Now I am getting very long winded here, so let me ask my question: Is there any inherent dangers in the Catholic/Orthodox Contemplative Prayer movement? Should one avoid Centering Prayer or the Jesus Prayer, and meditation all together? What say ye? What is your opinion(s) about Contemplative Prayer? Do you engage in it yourselves and what benefits have you discovered as a result of it? I await your responses. God Bless.
Contemplative prayer is superficially similar, but actually nothing whatsoever like the eastern religions; the goal is completely different. So to try and compare the two is like unfairly saying that your protestant’s prayer is similar to pagan prayer because it is all words and no meditation. Contemplative prayer can be summed up in the words “Be still, and know that I am God.” If one reads the mystics such as St John of the Cross, they talk about the three stages of the Spiritual Life: Purgative way, illuminative way, and the unitive way. The thing is, you do not progress from stage to stage on your own merits, it is a gift of grace bestowed to you. This is in sharp contrast to attempting to reach enlightenment.

Secondly, the danger of the eastern mindset is that you are clearing your mind to escape the illusion of what appears to be real and achieve enlightenment. This is a far cry from giving your thoughts, words, and spirit to God through contemplative prayer. One is actively searching out your heavenly Father; the other is opening yourself up to a “real non-reality” that consists of God only knows what.

A distinction is also drawn by the mystics between contemplation and meditation. Meditation is an inward prayer, and one can meditate on Scripture, salvation history, liturgy, or Creation itself. Contemplation is a higher form of prayer that is a grace given by God, and it is associated with the the higher stages of the Spiritual Life. It consists of a “silent love,” as CCC 2724 says. It’s a gaze of faith fixed on Jesus, a communion in the Holy Trinity, and is “pre-eminently intense.” It is often intially experience in the illuminative way, but is a hallmark of the unitive way.

The reason the rosary is so crucial, is because it combines vocal prayer and meditative prayer, an in time will lead you into contemplative prayer. It sounds like your friend is looking to find pagan parallels, rather than actually asking what prayer is for. Are the pagans evil for praying/meditating? Or is it the focus of their prayers we should be leery of? Should not our words honor God as does our thoughts? Should we pray to God but not seek true unity with Him, leaving that for something that happens after we die? It appears that he is drawing conclusions based on superficial realities without looking to what the Church teaches about prayer first. This is similar to msiunderstandings about the rosary.

Interestingly enough, the saints teach that one goes through the stages of the Spiritual Life regardless, either in this life or after death:
  1. Purgative way
  2. Dark night of the senses.
  3. Illuminative way.
  4. Dark night of the spirit.
  5. Unitive way.
Mother Teresa experienced the dark night of the spirit for decades, and yet this is also why she became a saint. She was farther in the spiritual journey.

As for the benefits from this? More than benefits, my friend, prayer is absolutely essential. The Church doesn’t just teach us to be saints, she teaches us how; and the lions of the faith have developed a literal “science” of holiness. Your anger, you attachment to mortal and later venial sins, it will all go away. It’s amazing. For a phenomenal 17 disk course on completely Orthodox spiritual theology, go to www.brantpitre.com. It covers all this and more. He uses CCC, fathers, and tradition to teach you about the 3-fold lust, how it was present in the Fall, how Jesus experienced it in his 3 temptations, how he gave the means to defend it in Sermon on the Mount, how the 7 deadly sins are outgrowings of the three-fold lust, how to identify the root causes of your sin in yourself, and the corresponding spiritual answer to the problem. He covers the stages of the spiritual life, how to recognize what stage you are in, etc. This is the stuff they used to teach to priests to help give you advice in the confessional based on what sins you were committing and what stage of the spiritual journey you were in. This set will change your life, it did mine. I wish I had learned the Church treasure trove of teaching on prayer before I had learned about the theology, in retrospect…

To answer the other question, yes, contemplative prayer was developed by the monastics. The reason for this is that in times of persecution, saints could “take up their cross” literally by seeking martyrdom. As Christianity became accepted and persecutions died down, this was no longer feasible, and so the ascetic lifestyle was developed to pursue Spiritual perfection in the Christian walk.

As for centering prayer, I can’t speak on that. I have heard contrasting views; some are for it (some Carmelites do it), others say it really is rooted in eastern mysticism. I have noticed that the people that advocate it tend to also dabble or at least draw parallels/establish ecumenical dialogue with eastern mystics, so I am leery of it, to say the least. There is nothing wrong with a mystical view of prayer; by its very nature prayer is mystical. However, if I remember correctly, centering prayer places undue focus internally, rather than externally to the Creator. This may be a gross over-simplification however, so take this with a grain of salt.
 
There confusion is in being misinformed about Contemplative prayer in the Christian tradition, and Eastern meditation.

The mechanics of the two are similar, i.e. close your eyes and begin to say a prayer word, or in the Eastern tradition, a mantra.

That’s where it ends.

In Contemplative Prayer in the Christian tradition, Christ is the center, being in His presence is the intention of our will.

It is going to the center of our being, to be in His presence where He dwells.

There is no magic or secret technique, it’s all about being Christ centered and anything we receive comes from God, not our method of prayer.

St. John of the Cross’s Canticle, The Living Flame of Love, explains Christian Contemplative Prayer the best.
O living flame of love
that tenderly wounds my soul
in its deepest center! Since
now you are not oppressive,
now consummate! if it be your will:
tear through the veil of this sweet encounter!
In his commentary,
*in its deepest center! *
  1. This feast takes place in the substance of the soul where neither the center of the senses nor the devil can reach. Therefore, the more interior it is, the more secure, substantial, and delightful, because the more interior it is, the purer it is. And the greater the purity, the more abundantly, frequently, and generously God communicates himself. Thus the delight and joy of the soul is so much more intense because God is the doer of all without the soul’s doing anything. Since the soul cannot do any work of its own save through the means and aid of the corporeal senses, from which in this event it is very free and far removed, its sole occupation now is to receive from God, who alone can move the soul and do his work in its depths. Thus all the movements of this soul are divine.
Although they belong to it, they belong to it because God works them in it and with it, for it wills and consents to them.2 Since by saying that the flame wounds in its deepest center the soul indicates that it has other, less profound centers, we ought to explain what is meant by these words.
  1. First it should be known that the soul, insofar as it is a spirit, does not possess in its being high and low, deeper or less deep, as do quantitative bodies. Since it has no parts, there is no difference as to inward and outward; it is all one kind and does not have degrees of quantitative depth. It cannot receive greater illumination in one part than in another like physical bodies, but all of it is illumined equally in a degree of greater or lesser intensity, like air that is illumined or not illumined according to degrees.
  1. The deepest center of an object we take to signify the farthest point attainable by that object’s being and power and force of operation and movement. So fire or a rock have the natural power and motion necessary to reach their center, but they cannot pass beyond it. They can fail to reach and rest in this center if a powerful contrary movement impedes them.
Accordingly, we assert that when a rock is in the ground it is, after a fashion, in its center, even though it is not in its deepest center, for it is within the sphere of its center, activity, and movement; yet we do not assert that it has reached its deepest center, which is the middle of the earth. Thus the rock always possesses the power, strength, and inclination to go deeper and reach the ultimate and deepest center; and this it would do if the hindrance were removed. When once it arrives and no longer has any power or inclination toward further movement, we declare that it is in its deepest center.
  1. The soul’s center is God. When it has reached God with all the capacity of its being and the strength of its operation and inclination, it will have attained its final and deepest center in God, it will know, love, and enjoy God with all its might. When it has not reached this point (as happens in this mortal life, in which the soul cannot reach God with all its strength, even though in its center - which is God through grace and his self-communication to it), it still has movement and strength for advancing further and is not satisfied. Although it is in its center, it is not yet in its deepest center, for it can go deeper in God.
The entire book is here;

karmel.at/ics/john/fl_3.html

Note how many times he refers to “the center,” where God is.

God is our center and you’ll not find this in any Eastern or New Age teaching on their meditation technigues.

Jim
 
There is meditation and contemplation on the Christian path and it is not about other methods. I feel people set up these alarms, but they are all only about security and power. Christian Mysticism transcends these tensions, anxieties and conflicts and flows into acceptance and love for all. As people gain some spiritual experience they seem to become calmer, more peaceful, loving individuals. It seems as people become quieter they start to be more sensitive, insightful and perceptive.There is no need to compare. If one is attracted to Christ and the way of the contemplative then go for it and don’t be afraid.
 
MG, I invite you and your friend to listen to Fr. Dubay’s EWTN series on contemplation (it’s free and available to listen online or download at the link below.) In one of the talks, Fr. Dubay gives a detailed explanation of how Christian contemplation differs from non-Christian prayer. The whole series is excellent.

EWTN Audio: Contemplation with Fr. Thomas Dubay
 
MG, I invite you and your friend to listen to Fr. Dubay’s EWTN series on contemplation (it’s free and available to listen online or download at the link below.) In one of the talks, Fr. Dubay gives a detailed explanation of how Christian contemplation differs from non-Christian prayer. The whole series is excellent.

EWTN Audio: Contemplation with Fr. Thomas Dubay
Becky,
Thank you very much for the link…I will give it a listen. I have a very deep and abiding respect for Fr. Dubay. Blessings! - Mike
 
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