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What is contemplative prayer? How would a laity go about practicing contemplative prayer (for someone who hasn’t tried it before to the best of their knowledge)?
Infused contemplation. Correct.An important note here is that contemplation is not something that we can “do” or “be good at.” Contemplation is a gift from God. We can prepare our hearts for it, but we cannot conjure it up via any method or effort.
There isn’t universal agreement on this amongst mystical/ascetical theologians. I think it is a distinction that isn’t helpful without quite a bit of context… The reason I make the distinction is because of syncretistic tendencies that define contemplation as something that we can do. Even “acquired” contemplation is not something that can occur based on human will and emotions alone. Waddayouthink bookcatperson?Infused contemplation. Correct.
Though there is also acquired contemplation…(which is …well acquired …in the spiritual life prior to infused…)
This is a great introduction for the neophyte, in that it introduces the reader to the various teachers on the subject.I really love the book “Fire Within” by Father Francis Dubay. It’s speaks of the lives of St. Therese of Avilla and St. John of the Cross and their teachings on contemplative prayer. I’m eager to get the book recommended above too.
This is why one needs to look to the theologians and Church Doctors who have written extensively on the subject. Infused Contemplation is a gift of the Spirit, we can only practice mental prayer in preparation for it, but we cannot make it happen. It is a passive prayer, while most prayer is active. One can actively acquire a contemplative state with the help of grace, which disposes the soul to be receptive of the infused type of contemplation. So, you are correct, in that the acquired type of contemplation requires cooperation with grace that comes from God, while the infused type requires that one be prepared and receptive to the actions of the Holy Spirit. What we can do, is to engage in mental prayer, and focus on developing our interior life; by cooperating with God’s grace. We are then open and disposed to acquired, then infused contemplation.An important note here is that contemplation is not something that we can “do” or “be good at.” Contemplation is a gift from God. We can prepare our hearts for it, but we cannot conjure it up via any method or effort.
Well said on all countsThis is a great introduction for the neophyte, in that it introduces the reader to the various teachers on the subject.
This is why one needs to look to the theologians and Church Doctors who have written extensively on the subject. Infused Contemplation is a gift of the Spirit, we can only practice mental prayer in preparation for it, but we cannot make it happen. It is a passive prayer, while most prayer is active. One can actively acquire a contemplative state with the help of grace, which disposes the soul to be receptive of the infused type of contemplation. So, you are correct, in that the acquired type of contemplation requires cooperation with grace that comes from God, while the infused type requires that one be prepared and receptive to the actions of the Holy Spirit. What we can do, is to engage in mental prayer, and focus on developing our interior life; by cooperating with God’s grace. We are then open and disposed to acquired, then infused contemplation.
Yes I am well aware of what you note in your first sentence there…There isn’t universal agreement on this amongst mystical/ascetical theologians. I think it is a distinction that isn’t helpful without quite a bit of context… The reason I make the distinction is because of syncretistic tendencies that define contemplation as something that we can do. Even “acquired” contemplation is not something that can occur based on human will and emotions alone. Waddayouthink bookcatperson?
I wish it were more settled that you perceive it is. Regardless, I respect your opinion. Are you a priest or religious? Where did you receive your formation on these matters?Yes I am well aware of what you note in your first sentence there…
There was indeed a back and forth discussion of this in the early to perhaps mid 20th century.
But I think it is pretty well settled …
Even the Catechism I would say presumes both forms of contemplation …
and Bl. Pope John Paul II in his encylic. on the Rosary is presupposing I would say (as I recall from years ago reading it) acquired contemplation…
As for the last sentence…yes it is important for to recall the words of Jesus…“apart from me you can do nothing”…yes of course grace is involved in Christian Acquired Contemplation.
Bookcat is correct, imo.Infused contemplation. Correct.
Though there is also acquired contemplation…(which is …well acquired …in the spiritual life prior to infused…)