Contemporary usage of word "create"

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I have -]created crafted built constructed/-] composed ( or is it contrived?) a post!! 🤷
You’ve managed to polarize a lot of microscopic magnetic fields so that they could represent characters which are familiar to you and to all of us as well. But then someone else had to have set up a system for you to be able to do that. And that wasn’t from scratch either.
 
You’ve managed to polarize a lot of microscopic magnetic fields so that they could represent characters which are familiar to you and to all of us as well. But then someone else had to have set up a system for you to be able to do that. And that wasn’t from scratch either.
True. But the polarizing is now an automatic response within the system synthethised by others.

I was both the priming and the catalysing agent.
Maybe even a free radical.

That’s pretty cool! :rolleyes:
 
But is it abuse or just plain deterioration of corruption of the meaning?

Several months ago on another forum, I noted the word “amazing” had undergone such similar atrocities (it’s used for almost everything now) that a song like “amazing grace” has really lost its original meaning. It’s basically lost its association with the divine. Same as create and a whole slew of other words we use in our religion. I’m very sympathetic to your cause but I can’t offer any viable solutions. This thread has been most interesting though.
Hi, ProVobis,

To answer your leading question, honestly I think it’s part of a general deterioration of the entire English language, which has been going on since the '60’s.

And, again honestly, I think there’s no real solution. Just, those of us that care about God keep to the correct usage in our hearts.
I’m glad you’ve found the thread interesting. That’s mostly because of the other posters.

God loves you,
Don
 
G’day there Don!

Good to see you challenging the lexicology once again!!

That list of verbs which you supplied does indeed highlight a certain laziness which has crept into the English language. They all have particular contexts in which they are most suitable. You compose music, I build a shed, someone else arranges flowers, etc, etc. In relation to God, we say He Created everything, In saying that we most times leave off as a given the fact that he Created everything from nothing and we simply refer to Him as the Creator, with a capital C.

However, is it not the case that when we humans synthesise something from available resources, say, a motor car from steel, ceramics and plastics, all of which we have manufactured, that we have created something and something new? Something brand new that did not and could not have existed otherwise? It would be somewhat cumbersome, and probably descriptively vague to have to go around saying “I synthesised a new thing, which is a form of transport which never existed before and could not have if I hadn’t the idea to use a plethora of new technologies to form new materials from which this new form of transport is manufactured”. To say “I created…” is much more gramatically economic, even if a little less precise. One might ascribe to man a certain degree of arrogance to suggest that the same word which denotes the Creator of all things is used to describe a synthesis, by humans, of existing materials to form something new. However I think God would not frown on the creativity of his created beings! He might actually be pleased that they are using their God given intelligence creatively!

Some one here gave the Latin root of the word create. I too looked it up and found an interesting description of the use and development of the word ‘Create’. It stems from the latin word creatus, which means "to do, to make". It can be further traced back to the Greek word kreinein, which means "to fulfill". The concept of 'creator and ‘create’ appeared around 14,000 years ago to explain the world. However, Latin, Greek and English are not that old and use of the term is recorded in English for the first time in only the 13th century. Words such as ‘creativity’ and ‘creative’ appeared much later. Their useage can be tracked alongside the “creation” of technology. So, was mankind starting to feel a little arrogance because of his developing creativiness, or was he simply searching for greater linguistic descriptiveness when he began to develop the useage of the word “create”. The word has gone from being used as an upper case description of the Creator, to the lower case adjectival usage of creative and further to a lower case description of the creativity of mankind. Nothing sacriligious there. Just an intellectual exercise in describing mankinds development over time. As for the fall off in the use of the adjectives which you list, well, that laziness probably pertains to many words in the English language. Look at the word “incredible”. It has virtually nothing to do with its original and correct meaning. Gee, people even find books incredible in this day and age! And look at the word ‘Cool’. It certainly has little to do with temperatures any more!!

I say let the language develop and change and give greater expression to the range and scope of human activities. If, indeed, that is what the changing language is doing. However, at the same time I say rail against the intellectual laziness that does cause either a misuse of words, or a fall off in their use, which really is nothing more than a regression into vagueness. As for not allowing others to use the word ‘Create’, well, isn’t that akin to the political correctness which is causing even more vagueness and ambiguity to creep into the English language?

There, I feel better now.

I have -]created crafted built constructed/-] composed ( or is it contrived?) a post!! 🤷
Oh, John,

Thank you for your post. In this sense, the word post covers the assembling the facts and composing them in a manner which illustrates your point of view. 😃

About your second paragraph, it’s usually been the words “built” or “manufactured” used to refer to the gathering the different materials and assembling them into the machine known as an “automobile” or “car”.

And, your third paragraph tracing the origin and usage of the word “create” brought up the unstated point of those created in God’s image reflecting His creativity in language. Is that sacrilegious? I don’t know. All I do know is, that when vaunting the ego of man it’s not good to extoll mankind’s ego over the Great “I am that I am.”.
I do know, that in the 18th or 19th century, the phrase “Deus Ex Machinus” was a wry observation on the Industrial Revolution. As you probably know, it means “God from machine” or translated, “From the machine, God.” Or, “From the machine, a god.”
And, I think that that attitude is the heart of the abuse of the words relating to God such as my mentioning “create” and ProVobis mentioning “amazing” and “other words”.

Oh, the language will either progress or regress, whichever view one may have of its development. All I can see is that current word usage takes people away from God, instead of keeping Him centered in human affairs. And, that is what I lament.

All you have written does not change my lament. All that rather explains my lament.

But, it was good of you to post, thank you.

God loves you,
Don
 
I listen to the radio for my news. I hear people use the word “create” in lieu of “develop”, “compile”, “compose”, “produce”, “devise” and etc. It grates my nerves every time I hear this abuse of that word.
You mean you don’t like your politician talking about job creation? 🙂
 
You mean you don’t like your politician talking about job creation? 🙂
Hi, ProVobis,

Nah. Talk is cheap. All this bunch that was elected in 2008 does is tax employers either out of the country or into depths of red tape so they can’t hire people.

Best regards,
Don
 
Indeed. And then you have the Fed “creating money out of thin air.” How’s that for denigrating God and fellow humans?
Hmm, ProVobis,

I’m enjoying your sense of humor. I’ll have to remember “creating money out of thin air” for those who think a person can’t create something from nothing.

Big grin (smiley’s don’t seem to be working),
Don
 
Some one here gave the Latin root of the word create. I too looked it up and found an interesting description of the use and development of the word ‘Create’. It stems from the latin word creatus, which means "to do, to make". It can be further traced back to the Greek word kreinein, which means "to fulfill". The concept of 'creator and ‘create’ appeared around 14,000 years ago to explain the world. However, Latin, Greek and English are not that old and use of the term is recorded in English for the first time in only the 13th century. Words such as ‘creativity’ and ‘creative’ appeared much later. Their useage can be tracked alongside the “creation” of technology. So, was mankind starting to feel a little arrogance because of his developing creativiness, or was he simply searching for greater linguistic descriptiveness when he began to develop the useage of the word “create”. The word has gone from being used as an upper case description of the Creator, to the lower case adjectival usage of creative and further to a lower case description of the creativity of mankind. Nothing sacriligious there. Just an intellectual exercise in describing mankinds development over time. As for the fall off in the use of the adjectives which you list, well, that laziness probably pertains to many words in the English language. Look at the word “incredible”. It has virtually nothing to do with its original and correct meaning. Gee, people even find books incredible in this day and age! And look at the word ‘Cool’. It certainly has little to do with temperatures any more!!
I don’t see it being a result of arrogance nor lack of a better term. Remember, if you’re citing the dawn of the “concept of a creator”, you’re still the one (as opposed to the 14,000 year old person) that is using the word “create” to address it. Sorry if that’s stating the obvious, you already may have acknowledged this, as you put those words “creator” in quotes. But it’s an important distinction. (i used But at the beginning of the sentence right there. eventually it may even be considered proper english.)

In the history that I’ve been able to find, I don’t see any sign that “the word has gone from being used as an upper case description of the Creator, to the lower case adjectival usage of creative and further to a lower case description of the creativity of mankind.”

I ackowledge there was a point when certain people began reserving the word for the uppercase God-referencing meaning only, but was that was the original starting point, ie: the “correct” usage? All signs point the other way.

Beyond that, I may be just repeating myself, but there has never been any true rigidity to the definitions (or pronunciations) of words. Language has always been fluid and defined only by the way people are actually speaking. “Correct English” to us would have been considered ridiculous in a prior era.

We say, for instance, that the true correct meaning of “incredible” is “worthy of belief or confidence”, but in declaring such, we just assume that “credible” has always meant what we think it means. I don’t know what turns “credible” took on its way to our current use for it, but I’d be rather impressed if it never meant something at least as different from that “correct” meaning as it is now.
 
Hi, Jonatello,

I’m from the 1950’s. I’ve always thought that ‘incredible’ meant ‘unbelievable.’
If it truly now has the opposite meaning, that’s too much change too fast.
I’ll just stick with the meaning I was taught, from the structure of the word.

Regards,
Don
 
Hi, Jonatello,

I’m from the 1950’s. I’ve always thought that ‘incredible’ meant ‘unbelievable.’
If it truly now has the opposite meaning, that’s too much change too fast.
I’ll just stick with the meaning I was taught, from the structure of the word.

Regards,
Don
haha that’s more than fair

God bles 🙂
 
Recreation is made up of the noun “creation”, with the preposition “re” attached. The preposition “re” means ‘with reference to’, ‘about’, or ‘regarding’. So recreation means pertaining to creation. Or it should. We regard the entire word “recreation” as a noun. The name of something. In Pro Vobis’s example, it is the name of what we do to revitalise our selves. To re-make.

However there is another way of looking at this. The preposition “re”, which means about, or with reference to a thing, was used in the old days as a stand alone noun. "Re’ stems from “Rex”, which means King or Ruler. It was used in conjunction with an uncountable noun, or a noun which referred to just about everything in its class. So, in its original form Re Creation referred to God’s creation. We have simply done away with the space between Re and Creation. So, hidden in the word recreation is reference to God’s creation. All you have to do is put back that little space between Re and Creation and hey presto, job done!! 👍
 
However there is another way of looking at this. The preposition “re”, which means about, or with reference to a thing, was used in the old days as a stand alone noun. "Re’ stems from “Rex”, which means King or Ruler. It was used in conjunction with an uncountable noun, or a noun which referred to just about everything in its class.
Hmmm. Re also has a modern business meaning as well. But there it would be the ablative form of the word res, “thing.” “re” as a prefix is a tough one and can do many things to the root. Its many uses could include “back,” “again,” “against,” “behind;” in fact it could have both intensive and negative force as well. Re as in resurrect could be intensive. The Latin recreare in the sense of created again seems oxymoronic so it must mean something else. Any ideas?
 
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