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In 1890, Pope Leo XIII said, “As no man can come to the Most High Father except through the Son, so, generally, no man can come to Christ except through Mary.”

On March 22, 1918, Pope Benedict XV said, “She suffered so much for us, almost to the point of dying with her suffering and dying Son. Therefore we may rightfully say that she has, with Christ, redeemed the human race.”

In 1954, Pope Pius XIII said, “Mary is indeed worthy to recieve honor and might and glory. She is exalted to hypostatic union with the Blessed trinty.”

On St. Stanislaus’ Roman Catholic Church, 524 W. Mitchell St., Milwaukee, Wisconsin: “Ascend mortals to this mountain top for here through Mary all shall receive salvation.”

Simon de Montford, True Devotion To Mary, commenting upon Genesis 3:15, “God has never made and formed but one enmity; but it is an irreconcilable one. It is between Mary, His worthy Mother and the devil. He has inspired her with so much hatred against that cursed enemy of God, with so much power to crush that proud and impious rebel that he fears her, in a sense, more than God Himself.”

Catholics think we dishonor Mary if we don’t pray to her. We can say, “I felt very sick last week. In fact, I was so sick that I went down to see the doctor’s mother.”
 
Daniel_Marsh said:
Mary

In 1890, Pope Leo XIII said, “As no man can come to the Most High Father except through the Son, so, generally, no man can come to Christ except through Mary.”

On March 22, 1918, Pope Benedict XV said, “She suffered so much for us, almost to the point of dying with her suffering and dying Son. Therefore we may rightfully say that she has, with Christ, redeemed the human race.”

In 1954, Pope Pius XIII said, “Mary is indeed worthy to recieve honor and might and glory. She is exalted to hypostatic union with the Blessed trinty.”

On St. Stanislaus’ Roman Catholic Church, 524 W. Mitchell St., Milwaukee, Wisconsin: “Ascend mortals to this mountain top for here through Mary all shall receive salvation.”

Simon de Montford, True Devotion To Mary, commenting upon Genesis 3:15, “God has never made and formed but one enmity; but it is an irreconcilable one. It is between Mary, His worthy Mother and the devil. He has inspired her with so much hatred against that cursed enemy of God, with so much power to crush that proud and impious rebel that he fears her, in a sense, more than God Himself.”

Catholics think we dishonor Mary if we don’t pray to her. We can say, “I felt very sick last week. In fact, I was so sick that I went down to see the doctor’s mother.”
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Source from where taken first…second, there is no Simon DeMontford.
 
St. Louis De Montfort writes in his classic book True Devotion to Mary:

“God has never made and formed but one enmity; but it is an irreconcilable one, which shall endure and grow even to the end. It is between Mary, His worthy Mother, and the devil-between the children and servants of the Blessed Virgin, and the children and tools of Lucifer. The most terrible of all the enemies which God has set up against the devil is His Holy Mother Mary. He has inspired her, even since the days of the earthly paradise, though she existed then only in His idea… the humble Mary will always have the victory over that proud spirit, and so great a victory that she will go so far as to crush his head, where his pride dwells.”

tldm.org/News6/Genesis3.15.htm
 
Daniel_Marsh said:
St. Louis De Montfort writes in his classic book True Devotion to Mary:

“God has never made and formed but one enmity; but it is an irreconcilable one, which shall endure and grow even to the end. It is between Mary, His worthy Mother, and the devil-between the children and servants of the Blessed Virgin, and the children and tools of Lucifer. The most terrible of all the enemies which God has set up against the devil is His Holy Mother Mary. He has inspired her, even since the days of the earthly paradise, though she existed then only in His idea… the humble Mary will always have the victory over that proud spirit, and so great a victory that she will go so far as to crush his head, where his pride dwells.”

tldm.org/News6/Genesis3.15.htm
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You didn’t say St. Louis, you said Simon. And it’s great that he wrote this…and?
 
 
I followed the third link you listed for your context for the third quote you listed. It said a pope said Mary had a hypostatic union with the trinity. It sounded like a very unlikely thing to say since that term is used exclusively for the union of the two natures in the person of Jesus. Following the link, I didn’t find this quote but found a website called Christians Evangelizing Catholics. I didn’t find it to be totally accurate site. I would really like the context of your third quote. It is bizarre.
 
Daniel_Marsh said:
… Catholics think we dishonor Mary if we don’t pray to her. We can say, “I felt very sick last week. In fact, I was so sick that I went down to see the doctor’s mother.”
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I’m glad you saw the doctor’s mother, and not his estranged wife. I’m sure his mother will lead you to the right help.
 
Christians Evangelizing Catholics are well known for falsifying quotes or changing them to make them sound shocking and heretical.

Paul
 
I really question the accuracy of the third quote (this is the most troubling–the first two are slightly troubling, but are more in need of explaining; i.e. unnecessary)…:confused:
 
Daniel_Marsh said:
St. Louis De Montfort writes in his classic book True Devotion to Mary:

“God has never made and formed but one enmity; but it is an irreconcilable one, which shall endure and grow even to the end. It is between Mary, His worthy Mother, and the devil-between the children and servants of the Blessed Virgin, and the children and tools of Lucifer. The most terrible of all the enemies which God has set up against the devil is His Holy Mother Mary. He has inspired her, even since the days of the earthly paradise, though she existed then only in His idea… the humble Mary will always have the victory over that proud spirit, and so great a victory that she will go so far as to crush his head, where his pride dwells.”

tldm.org/News6/Genesis3.15.htm
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Just for the record - there were three Simon de Montforts (Simons de Montfort ?), including these two:​

The man to whom we owe the first English Parliament:
 
Claire_from_DE said:
I followed the third link you listed for your context for the third quote you listed. It said a pope said Mary had a hypostatic union with the trinity. It sounded like a very unlikely thing to say since that term is used exclusively for the union of the two natures in the person of Jesus. Following the link, I didn’t find this quote but found a website called Christians Evangelizing Catholics. I didn’t find it to be totally accurate site. I would really like the context of your third quote. It is bizarre.
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Something similar has been said - but not by any Pope (AFAIK). Here it is:​

  • The other consideration is positive: before there can be any effective appreciation of the unique, coredemptive role of Mary on Calvary, the miraculous character of the birth of the Savior as sacerdotal must be appreciated. Without that, inevitably the redemptive work both of the Savior and of his Mother will be interpreted in purely secular terms. The patristic age does indeed contribute to the development of the doctrine of coredemption, not by affirming a mediate coredemption, but by noting the redemptive character of the virginal birth of Christ. Once we realize how this unique active virginal influence in the order of the hypostatic union and redemption does not cease with the birth, but continues, then we are in a position to affirm the basis for the distinction between objective and subjective redemption, and for the role of the Woman in it.
    [gap]
  • The unique element in the title New Eve when predicated of Mary might best be p(name removed by moderator)ointed by corelating that title with “Virgin Earth” from which the body of Adam was miraculously formed as a type of the Immaculate Conception. Mary’s uniqueness as New Eve, as preeminent member of the Church, resides in the fact that she is the Immaculate Conception, who in some way precedes her Son and on whose cooperation he relies, both in his birth and in his death. In that she differs from every other member of the Church: she alone pertains to the order of the hypostatic union, she alone is his Mother, she alone is Coredemptrix, for the mode of the Incarnation and Redemption is Marian. In that sense according to the Seraphic Doctor, not apart from Christ, but as preeminent member of the Church, she constitutes an order or hierarchy in her own right. [78] But on that preeminence under the Headship of Christ rests the mystery of the Church as Mother and Teacher, as new Eve and Virgin Bride of the Savior (cf. Eph 5,22ss).
    christendom-awake.org/pages/marian/5thdogma/fehlner1-2.htm
These quotations are pretty representative of Fr. Fehlner’s essay. :eek: 😦

For the first part, go to:
 
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Daniel_Marsh said:
In 1890, Pope Leo XIII said, “As no man can come to the Most High Father except through the Son, so, generally, no man can come to Christ except through Mary.”

On March 22, 1918, Pope Benedict XV said, “She suffered so much for us, almost to the point of dying with her suffering and dying Son. Therefore we may rightfully say that she has, with Christ, redeemed the human race.”

In 1954, Pope Pius XIII said, “Mary is indeed worthy to recieve honor and might and glory. She is exalted to hypostatic union with the Blessed trinty.”

On St. Stanislaus’ Roman Catholic Church, 524 W. Mitchell St., Milwaukee, Wisconsin: “Ascend mortals to this mountain top for here through Mary all shall receive salvation.”

Simon de Montford, True Devotion To Mary, commenting upon Genesis 3:15, “God has never made and formed but one enmity; but it is an irreconcilable one. It is between Mary, His worthy Mother and the devil. He has inspired her with so much hatred against that cursed enemy of God, with so much power to crush that proud and impious rebel that he fears her, in a sense, more than God Himself.”

Catholics think we dishonor Mary if we don’t pray to her. We can say, “I felt very sick last week. In fact, I was so sick that I went down to see the doctor’s mother.”
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Here’s one:​

Leo XIII
  1. But since the salvation of our race was accomplished by the mystery of the Cross, and since the Church, dispenser of that salvation after the triumph of Christ, was founded upon earth and instituted, Providence established a new order for a new people. The consideration of the Divine counsels is united to the great sentiment of religion. The Eternal Son of God, about to take upon Him our nature for the saving and ennobling of man, and about to consummate thus a mystical union between Himself and all mankind, did not accomplish His design without adding there the free consent of the elect Mother, who represented in some sort all human kind, according to the illustrious and just opinion of St. Thomas, who says that the Annunciation was effected with the consent of the Virgin standing in the place of humanity.[5] With equal truth may it be also affirmed that, by the will of God, Mary is the intermediary through whom is distributed unto us this immense treasure of mercies gathered by God, for mercy and truth were created by Jesus Christ.[6] Thus as no man goeth to the Father but by the Son, so no man goeth to Christ but by His Mother. How great are the goodness and mercy revealed in this design of God!
Also here:
Source: Encyclical OCTOBRI MENSE promulgated on September 22, 1891. [see last link]

One down - two to go.
 
Benedict XV
  1. The second quotation -
On March 22, 1918, Pope Benedict XV said, “She suffered so much for us, almost to the point of dying with her suffering and dying Son. Therefore we may rightfully say that she has, with Christ, redeemed the human race.”
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is from Benedict XV, Apostolic Letter Inter Sodalicia, March 22, 1918, AAS 10, 1918, 182:
  • … the fact that she was with Him crucified and dying, was in accord with the divine plan. For with her suffering and dying Son, Mary endured suffering and almost death. She gave up her Mother’s rights over her Son to procure the salvation of mankind, and to appease the divine justice, she, as much as she could, immolated her Son, so that one can truly affirm that together with Christ she has redeemed the human race. But if for this reason, every kind of grace we receive from the treasury of the redemption is ministered as it were through the hands of the same Sorrowful Virgin, everyone can see that a holy death should be expected from her, since it is precisely by this gift that the work of the Redemption is effectively and permanently completed in each one
    Quoted from:
  • http://www.ewtn.com/faith/teachings/marya4a.htm
  • footnote 11. See also:
The Latin text of the paragraph, complete with quotation, is printed in Denzinger; which changed its numbering in 1960. So the numbering of the paragraph is:
  1. As for
In 1954, Pope Pius XII said, “Mary is indeed worthy to recieve honor and might and glory. She is exalted to hypostatic union with the Blessed trinty.”
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  • this appears to be based on:
  • And the King saw that she was truly worthy of such honour, glory and empire, because she was more filled with grace, more holy, more beautiful, nearer to the divine, incomparably more so, than the greatest saints and sublimest angels, separately or together. This is because she is mysteriously related in the order of the hypostatic union with the Blessed Trinity, with Him who is in essence the Infinite Majesty, King of Kings and Lord of Lords. She is the first-born Daughter of the Father and pure Mother of the Word, beloved Bride of the Holy Ghost, because Mother of the Divine King, of Him to whom from her maternal womb the Lord God gave the throne of David and everlasting Kingship in the House of Jacob. He alone proclaimed to have received sic all power in heaven and earth, He the Son of God, decrees for His Mother all the glory, power and majesty of His Kingdom.
    http://www.ewtn.com/library/MARY/TSFATIMA.HTM
  • which gives a date of May 13, 1946. The words are from a text read at Fatima on the Pope’s behalf by Cardinal Masella; the quotation is near the bottom of the page. That’s as precise as I can get; the Vatican site has not made everything Papal since 1878 available yet.
Also relevant to the date may be the Encyclical Fulgens Corona, which was written in 1953 to mark the centenary of the definition of the Immaculate Conception.

Fulgens Corona can be found here:
 
Claire_from_DE said:
I followed the third link you listed for your context for the third quote you listed. It said a pope said Mary had a hypostatic union with the trinity. It sounded like a very unlikely thing to say since that term is used exclusively for the union of the two natures in the person of Jesus. Following the link, I didn’t find this quote but found a website called Christians Evangelizing Catholics. I didn’t find it to be totally accurate site. I would really like the context of your third quote. It is bizarre.
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These are quotes people have been throwing at me. I am demanding to see the quote on the original page to read it for myself. I found that “hypostatic union” thing weird too.
 
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