Contraception and other Faiths

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Are there any other faith traditions that believe contraception is wrong? Or at least discourage those methods for religious purposes (ex. pill, condoms, etc)?

I am NOT asking this to start a discussion. I simply want to know if the Catholic faith tradition is the only tradition that believes this. I am asking in order to address a situation in my son’s health class so please I just want to know: simply “our faith yes or no” is fine.

thank you.
 
JW’s teach that it is a conscience matter for the individual.

This ties in with their teachings that the end of the present world is at hand, and have at various times during it’s short existence discouraged it’s younger members from even getting married, because hey, the end is here and they should be focusing on the ministry. So, their stance on contraception makes sense for their theology, as everything points to their preaching work. Children can make this difficult for ones to devote the bulk of their time to this endeavor. Quite recently, the WTS had resumed really focusing on discouraging it’s young, unmarried ones from getting married and going to college. It’s all about their magazine work.
 
I don’t think entire denominations condemn artificial contraception, but in some individual churches (independent or nondenominational, usually), the pastor will preach against it. (I learned this from frequenting a Christian parenting board, btw). Some individual nonCatholics are also “convicted” that it’s wrong, but most will only say that it’s wrong “for them”, b/c of the individual “conviction” by the Holy Spirit, not necessarily for anyone else.

In Christ,

Ellen
 
It would be beneficial for all of mankind if people would pay attention to what is happening
worldwide from population growth…instead of blindly following religious teachings that ban
birth control.
  • more people = more wars…the Internet and press are full of it…and getting worse.
  • There are likely to be increasing conflicts over water.
  • Right behind water conflicts is food.
  • The reason that terrorist groups attract members is largely because there are too many
    young men that cannot find employment and whose future looks bleak.
    It’s the same thing in the USA among many Blacks and Hyspanics…and now apparently
    Muslims.
  • 2000 years ago the situation was different. Religions and churches need to respond to
    the changes that have occurred.
People ARE going to engage in sexual activities;
The drive to reproduce is second only to staying alive; besides, it FEELS so damn good !
One other thing; From puberty until about 35 ±, males get a shot of testosterone EVERY
90 MINUTES.
( It has been said that 90 % of males masturbate; The other 10 % are lying.)

With Gate’s and USA Govt and private organizations financial support to reduce disease
and feed people, overpopulation is going to increasingly become an issue…and not just in Darfur.
 
OK Diogenes1, so we know now that the answer for people with no religion is NO. Fine. I’m not interested in a discussion on WHY. I just want to know if there are any faith traditions that oppose contraception besides the Catholic tradition. So far, there are some individual Christian churches/preachers.

For anyone who knows of anything else but want to avoid starting a heated discussion here, I welcome PM’s. This is an inquiry, not a gauntlet throw.
thank you
 
Diogenes1 said:
It would be beneficial for all of mankind if people would pay attention to what is happening
worldwide from population growth…instead of blindly following religious teachings that ban
birth control.
  • more people = more wars…the Internet and press are full of it…and getting worse.
  • There are likely to be increasing conflicts over water.
  • Right behind water conflicts is food.
  • The reason that terrorist groups attract members is largely because there are too many
    young men that cannot find employment and whose future looks bleak.
    It’s the same thing in the USA among many Blacks and Hyspanics…and now apparently
    Muslims.
  • 2000 years ago the situation was different. Religions and churches need to respond to
    the changes that have occurred.
People ARE going to engage in sexual activities;
The drive to reproduce is second only to staying alive; besides, it FEELS so damn good !
One other thing; From puberty until about 35 ±, males get a shot of testosterone EVERY
90 MINUTES.
( It has been said that 90 % of males masturbate; The other 10 % are lying.)

With Gate’s and USA Govt and private organizations financial support to reduce disease
and feed people, overpopulation is going to increasingly become an issue…and not just in Darfur.
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I think you need to put down that Marx inspired Liberal handbook and pickup a Bible. Unplug from what society tries to explain and understand what humanity is really about. Reality isn’t portrayed in “reality TV.”
 
What about the Quiverfull movement? Many of these are Christian, but I’m not sure if they’re really of a particular denomination.

I once was WELS Lutheran, one of the more conservative Lutheran denominations, and even they stated that contraception was okay. So I’m thinking that most denominations these days, even the “conservative” ones have gone to allowing BC, which is rather unfortunate.
 
According to an article on the BBC website, Protestants were opposed to contraception until the 1800s, when changing attitudes began to see it as one of personal conscience.
This change came slowly - as late as 1908 the Lambeth Conference of the Anglican Church stated that birth control “cannot be spoken of without repugnance,” and denounced it as “demoralising to character and hostile to national welfare.”
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But the Anglicans were the first church to issue a statement in favour of contraception, which they did at the Lambeth Conference in 1930 by a majority of 193 to 67. A group of American Protestants followed in 1931.
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Nowadays most Protestant denominations permit artificial birth control to some extent.
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bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/christianethics/contraception_1.shtml

The article also claims to summarize the views of Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, Mormonism and Sikhism. But I do wonder if maybe it oversimplifies the diversity of views within those religious traditions.
bbc.co.uk/ethics/contraception/
 
Diogenes1 said:
It would be beneficial for all of mankind if people would pay attention to what is happening
worldwide from population growth…instead of blindly following religious teachings that ban
birth control.
  • more people = more wars…the Internet and press are full of it…and getting worse.
  • There are likely to be increasing conflicts over water.
  • Right behind water conflicts is food.
  • The reason that terrorist groups attract members is largely because there are too many
    young men that cannot find employment and whose future looks bleak.
    It’s the same thing in the USA among many Blacks and Hyspanics…and now apparently
    Muslims.
  • 2000 years ago the situation was different. Religions and churches need to respond to
    the changes that have occurred.
People ARE going to engage in sexual activities;
The drive to reproduce is second only to staying alive; besides, it FEELS so damn good !
One other thing; From puberty until about 35 ±, males get a shot of testosterone EVERY
90 MINUTES.
( It has been said that 90 % of males masturbate; The other 10 % are lying.)

With Gate’s and USA Govt and private organizations financial support to reduce disease
and feed people, overpopulation is going to increasingly become an issue…and not just in Darfur.
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I suggest you might want to do some reading on current and future population growth trends. Most studies currently have the population getting steady at between 8-9 Billion and then they show it starts to fall. By 2300 Japan may be empty. … They Caucasian Race is contracepting itself out of existence, Bulgaria, Italy, Russia, France, England, all have birth rates below 2.1. The only thing saving them now is immigration, but most of the world is embracing contraception and abortion to the point of death.
 
The so-called “Catholic position” on contraception (that it was morally illicit) was the position of all Christian faiths until relatively recent times.

The Lambeth Conference of 1930 was indeed the first time that a major Protestant Christian group came out and actually STATED that there might be situations where contraception could be used.

Prior to that, many Protestant Christian denominations stated (and wrote) that contraception was not moral. Some did not make a ‘written’ statement but one can see from sermons, and from actions such as ‘shunning’ or dismissing a person from the congregation that even if it was not actually ‘written down’, that the position of the minister in his understanding of the teachings of Christianity was that contraception was not morally licit. And some few of the late 19th century denominations as well as some in the 20th century did not make a written statement and did not actively ‘espouse’ OR ‘reject’ contraception at all as a ‘whole’ but merely relied on the ‘individual’ idea of the minister, or of the parties involved. However this again was a relatively ‘modern’ take. And there was also a big difference between what was ‘said’ and what was ‘done.’ People may have quietly ‘accepted’ the teachings until it became a problem, and then (quietly) engaged in contraception. IOW, they supported the teachings of their particular church in public, but ignored them in private. Or they may have supported contraception for ‘other people’ (as today shamefully we have those who are 'personally against abortion myself but would not DREAM of ‘imposing’ my beliefs on another), and even spoken out about the ‘licitness’ of contraception while they personally felt that they ‘would not contracept for themselves.’ IOW, they personally accepted that contraception was wrong but if their church allowed it, they would allow it for ‘other people’.

To me it just shows how disconnected many people have become regarding faith at all, and how many seem to (falsely) think that there are no absolutes, and how any given subject can be ‘all right’ for any given individual simply because it is ‘chosen’, and how any insistence on an absolute is seen as FORCING beliefs onto people. . .
 
Thank you very much everyone; especially the links above. Basically, my son’s health class is presenting a 3 week sexuality section in class, covering contraception including withdrawal, pill, condoms, etc. To the point of the teacher showing kids how to use a condom in class using her fingers. But, there is no mention at all about abstinence till marriage (only abstinence during high school) and natural family planning as an option to birth control. I feel this is a covert way of saying these things are not valid choices like all the rest and so I am writing a letter to the health teacher and the principal of the school and perhaps the school board about that discrimination by not providing ALL the choices available to a person. So I asked about religion to see but it looks like Catholicism is the only faith tradition that forbids contraception.
But that is OK for my purposes because even if one faith tradition it is still discrimination to not mention it as an option along with all the rest.
Cheers everyone.
 
Bailey2 said:
Are there any other faith traditions that believe contraception is wrong? Or at least discourage those methods for religious purposes (ex. pill, condoms, etc)?

I am NOT asking this to start a discussion. I simply want to know if the Catholic faith tradition is the only tradition that believes this. I am asking in order to address a situation in my son’s health class so please I just want to know: simply “our faith yes or no” is fine.

thank you.
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I don’t think contraception is wrong as long as the unborn, no matter the stage, isn’t purposely destroyed.​

There’s NO credible Bible verses to support anti-contraception, IMO. (Here we go again.:D)
 
Dokimas said:

I don’t think contraception is wrong as long as the unborn, no matter the stage, isn’t purposely destroyed.​

There’s NO credible Bible verses to support anti-contraception, IMO. (Here we go again.:D)
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Bailey2 said:
Thank you very much everyone; especially the links above. Basically, my son’s health class is presenting a 3 week sexuality section in class, covering contraception including withdrawal, pill, condoms, etc. To the point of the teacher showing kids how to use a condom in class using her fingers. But, there is no mention at all about abstinence till marriage (only abstinence during high school) and natural family planning as an option to birth control. I feel this is a covert way of saying these things are not valid choices like all the rest and so I am writing a letter to the health teacher and the principal of the school and perhaps the school board about that discrimination by not providing ALL the choices available to a person. So I asked about religion to see but it looks like Catholicism is the only faith tradition that forbids contraception.
But that is OK for my purposes because even if one faith tradition it is still discrimination to not mention it as an option along with all the rest.
Cheers everyone.
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The Meher Baba tradition (which has Zoroastrian, Sufi, and Hindu elements) forbids birth control. (See pages 151ff.)
 
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Tweety Mom,

Food for thought…

I think the passage on Onan is far more definitive then the passages on the trinity. Don’t you?

Just so you know that I actually do understand where you are coming from I really used to be far more to the left on this issue until I started to study Humanae Vitae. I was a social liberal LCMS and technically still am since I am currently in RCIA. I used to be far more to the left on this issue and others as well, but no longer. Once I read Pope Paul’s work I really had one of those V-8 moments. It was this work that actually pushed me from my LCMS home of 45 years into the RCC. You know practicing this at my wifes and my age is hard, especially in this modern world, but doing the right things often are hard no matter what it is. For me at least, after reading this document, I had a crises of faith after reading the document because I realized the prophetic nature of his vision and since I have lived through most of this period I got to watch our country and values slide exactly as predicted. If you have not read it could you and let me know your take and if you have already read it did it stir any thoughts?

God Bless You…and take care,

Lypher
 
Bailey2 said:
Are there any other faith traditions that believe contraception is wrong? Or at least discourage those methods for religious purposes (ex. pill, condoms, etc)?

I am NOT asking this to start a discussion. I simply want to know if the Catholic faith tradition is the only tradition that believes this. I am asking in order to address a situation in my son’s health class so please I just want to know: simply “our faith yes or no” is fine.

thank you.
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Well um, this is a DISCUSSION forum, not a question and answer forum. So you might have a hard time with that.

With regard to your question, all Protestant religions before the 1930 Council of Lambeth, were totally against birth control. And when it was suggested that married couples might use contraception there was a great uproar over how wrong it was. Then the world fell apart and everyone (EXCEPT the Catholic/Orthodox Church) jumped on the contraception band wagon. And maybe some Orthodox Jews, not sure on that point. But for the vast majority, I am not aware of any entire religion condemning contraception in the same way as the Catholic Church.

~Liza
 
Very interesting re: Meher Baba!

Ah, this is a discussion group as has been so poignantly stated above. Forgive me for using the forum wrongly but charitably and thank you all who were kind enough to help me out anyway. My question has been answered. Carry on and have fun! 👍
 
Lypher said:
Tweety Mom,

Food for thought…

I think the passage on Onan is far more definitive then the passages on the trinity. Don’t you?

Just so you know that I actually do understand where you are coming from I really used to be far more to the left on this issue until I started to study Humanae Vitae. I was a social liberal LCMS and technically still am since I am currently in RCIA. I used to be far more to the left on this issue and others as well, but no longer. Once I read Pope Paul’s work I really had one of those V-8 moments. It was this work that actually pushed me from my LCMS home of 45 years into the RCC. You know practicing this at my wifes and my age is hard, especially in this modern world, but doing the right things often are hard no matter what it is. For me at least, after reading this document, I had a crises of faith after reading the document because I realized the prophetic nature of his vision and since I have lived through most of this period I got to watch our country and values slide exactly as predicted. If you have not read it could you and let me know your take and if you have already read it did it stir any thoughts?

God Bless You…and take care,

Lypher
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The passage about Onan definatively teaches us NOT to be disobedient and if has NOTHING to do with contriception, IMO. Context tells us so.
 
Lypher said:
Tweety Mom,

Food for thought…

I think the passage on Onan is far more definitive then the passages on the trinity. Don’t you?

Just so you know that I actually do understand where you are coming from I really used to be far more to the left on this issue until I started to study Humanae Vitae. I was a social liberal LCMS and technically still am since I am currently in RCIA. I used to be far more to the left on this issue and others as well, but no longer. Once I read Pope Paul’s work I really had one of those V-8 moments. It was this work that actually pushed me from my LCMS home of 45 years into the RCC. You know practicing this at my wifes and my age is hard, especially in this modern world, but doing the right things often are hard no matter what it is. For me at least, after reading this document, I had a crises of faith after reading the document because I realized the prophetic nature of his vision and since I have lived through most of this period I got to watch our country and values slide exactly as predicted. If you have not read it could you and let me know your take and if you have already read it did it stir any thoughts?

God Bless You…and take care,

Lypher
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My thoughts are and will be till Jesus comes It made no difference because it was written by a man.
 
Dokimas said:
The passage about Onan definatively teaches us NOT to be disobedient and if has NOTHING to do with contriception, IMO. Context tells us so.
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Thank you Dokimas.I have been saying that for a long time.but of course we are always wrong.
 
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