Interesting to hear a Catholic say that. It is not justifiable to the Church. There is a things called Natural Family Planning.
NFP is NOT the calendar method!!! Look at the website called 1Flesh. The calendar method is just counting days. NFP using fertility awareness based methods (FABMs) involves observing biological markers that indicate ovulation. The Marquette method uses a fertility monitor and measures hormone concentrations. It is science not hocus pocus!My church teaches that barrier methods and timing are tolerable, but no method that could damage a fetus is allowed. My wife an I (before we were married and were pretty much agnostics) u***sed a method similar to the calendar method promulgated by Catholics. ***
My personal belief fits with my church’s belief - but I would like to help develop a culture that accepts children. In my case I got caught up feeling ‘young’ and don’t want to become a parent. Sadly my wife and I are done having children and I look back on the years when we could have had more children with regret.
I do have a lot of respect for the Catholic Church’s stance and the steadfast way it has defended life.
In most of the mainline denominations, it has to do with clergy getting married. There was an uncomfortable transitional period where clergy were limiting the size of their families for very practical reasons while still being against contraception on paper. Gradually, the stuff on paper developed to match the practical realities of life for both clergy and laity.
The risks of contraception are manageable and in no way amount to credible medical evidence that can support some kind of argument for banning contraceptives due to health concerns. You do not have a credible argument from medicine, psychology, or academia in general. Yours is strictly a moral argument, and you might want to stay in your lane.
I should also mention the industrial revolution, urbanization, and a decrease in infant mortality accompanied by an increase in lifespan and in the number of years required to become adequately educated. Those things affected everybody, not Protestants in particular- but my earlier post explains why Protestant clergy and laity developed along with the developed world while the Catholic clergy and laity are mostly out of step.
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I certainly think it’s justifiable to use artificial methods, for example, to avoid a high-risk pregnancy.
I never said anything about banning contraception. After all, cigarettes aren’t good for you but we don’t ban them. We do however warn people of the dangers. Contraceptives do not come without risk. That is science fact. Look at the WHO database. They are listed as carcinogens.
BUT the difference is GOD remains in charge [fertile and non-fertile periods] OR we USURP God’s Soverign RIGHT to control ALL birth and deach isuues and decissions.
No. It’s called self-control in the case of both parties, and it’s natural.
I’d say God is every bit as in charge when a condom breaks as He is when you’ve miscalculated a woman’s cycle and she gets pregnant.BUT the difference is GOD remains in charge [fertile and non-fertile periods] OR we USURP God’s Soverign RIGHT to control ALL birth and deach isuues and decissions.
Genesis 4:1 The man had intercourse with his wife Eve, and she conceived and gave birth to Cain. ‘I have acquired a man with the help of Yahweh,’ she said.
Birth is Controlled by God
John.1 Verses 12 to 14: “But to all who received him, who believed in his name, he gave power to become children of God; who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God. “
Gen.38: 6-10 “And Judah took a wife for Er his first-born, and her name was Tamar. But Er, Judah’s first-born, was wicked in the sight of the LORD; and the LORD slew him. Then Judah [the Father of both sons] said to Onan, “Go in to your brother’s wife, and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother.” But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife he spilled the semen on the ground, lest he should give offspring to his brother. And what he did was displeasing in the sight of the LORD, and he slew him also.
Man can ONLY ASSUME to know more or to know better than the God that Created him and sustains him. Amen
I know there are some risks. I am saying they’re manageable. What are you saying, and to what end. Are you brewing a conspiracy theory? Are you suggesting that medical science is working to hide serious, unmanageable risks from us for some fiendish reason? Or do you agree that medical science does its best to discover and distribute accurate information, including risk factors which are minor, manageable, and nothing to get condoms banned over?
I am not saying if I am for or against contraception, but NFP is doing exact what contraception does just in a different way, no matter how you look at it; however, the church says it is an acceptable manner. ???
