Contraception

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How are these things evil?
We are called to love people the way God loves us. How does He love us? He loves us for our own sake. What does that mean? First, its important to understand that God lacks nothing. We do not fill some void in His life. We do not make life worth living for Him. He does not need us for his own personal welfare. These sorts of motivations are based primarily on our own self love. Often when we hear that God has no need for us, we find it difficult to believe that He could love us. We want to be wanted and want seems to infer some desire that is desperate to be satisfied. God does will does not work like covetousness. He loves us for our own sake.

So we are called to love people in this way. That’s not to say its wrong not to enjoy people or to realize that people give your life some meaning and purpose. But it is to understand that their value as human individuals is not based on the fact that they make you happy. They will not lose their value if you became disinterested in them.

Sex as God designed it is an act where we open ourselves to the possibility of new life, but where the key creative functions were left completely out of our control. So if you imagine sex without human invention to change its nature, it is an act that forces people to contemplate that creative power in their consent to have sex, but also to recognize that having a child or not having a child is not their decision to make. If they have sex, they are opening their arms and waiting for a gift that may or may not come. This expresses appreciation for that gift.

Contraceptions changes the nature of the act. The couple pursues sexual pleasure without the opening of the hands to accept the gift. They are deliberately saying “no” and thus expression a lack of appreciation for the value of human life. Then when they decide to have children, this is motivated by a want. Couples become emotionally desperate to have a child. the opposite side of the contraceptive coin is actions to pursue the conception of a child outside of the sexual union. This again expresses a sense of entitlement which again expresses a lack of appreciation for individual human life.

Its immoral because Christian morality has a standard of perfection in love. It is a standard that is humanly impossible to acheive which is why Christ died for our sins.

I would say personally, I still find it confusing as to why when it comes to the expressions of the seven deadly sins, all but lust causes a person to discern the gravity of the sin. Whereas with lust, there are plenty of confession guides that say if its a sin of lust, its automatically grave.

Sometimes the argument for it being grave looks odd to me, but at the same time I feel my husband and I are forced to be more deliberate and selfless with our love for each other. Not using contraceptives causes us to contemplate the beauty of the procreative nature of sex. It really feels in a real sense that when we have sex, we aren’t holding back. It is a complete gift of self. That’s not to say there aren’t fears at time, but as my husband said, fear stems from an acknowledgement of the responsibility and that responsibility is based on how precious and deserving that little life is for us to care for it with the sincerest love. as such, we also shouldn’t let our lusts prevent us from abstaining if we should avoid. The abstainence becomes an act of love.
 
Is a sperm a human being?
I will never understand this complete disregard for science that supposed rational people have. Ask any biologist in any field (or any text book), a new individual member of the species exists at the time of fertilization. Indeed, birth would be a more than useless standard in understanding plant reproduction. So why use a different standard for mammals, birds, reptiles, fish, etc, and another for plants which use sexual reproduction.
 
That’s true; I don’t see an unborn child as a human. I do, however, see babies as humans.
Of course you do see babies as human beings. I know you do, your not a monster! My point is, what arguments that you provide for the inhumanity of an unborn child also apply to some extent to a post-birth child. Of those arguments, why is it wrong with respect to a post-birth child when it is okay with an unborn child.
This is nonsensical. You’re saying that if people have sex using contraception then they are only doing it to disobey God and to get pleasure only for themselves, even though you can focus on pleasing your partner as well as yourself.
haha, it’s not nonsensical, you just don’t see things from our perspective. I am not saying that people that use contraception are doing it to ‘disobey God’. I am saying that they do not view marriage the way we do. We think of marriage as a complete giving of ourself to a spouse. Sex is not recreation, it is not where we please and are pleased. It is where we Love and receive Love. I am not going to go through the whole argument for you (you can read about the theology of the body yourself) but it is enough to say that we simply believe that using or insisting upon sterilization is not an act of self giving Love. Also, it is certainly not nonsensical that a husband can abuse his wife or a wife can use her husband.
 
Is a sperm a human being?
I think most people know that at the moment the sperm successfully enters the egg, a new life begins. I’ve seen video of the event. The genetic material combines to create a new life. Sperm sitting there by itself does nothing to create a new life.

Peace,
Ed
 
Finally, what is the point of contraception? To limit the numbers of kids? That’s the primary reason?

I was born in the mid-1950s. The average number of kids in my neighborhood was two, not ten. There was no birth control pill. It would not be approved by the FDA until 1960.

Consider this: Are some of us saying to ourselves: “I cannot control my sexual desires. I must have this pill or device or voluntary sterilization. Waiting is not an option for me. I prefer lots of sex and lots of orgasms.”?

I’ve actually read that having sex is the glue that holds one poster’s marriage together. Talk to any married couple: 8 hours of sleep (if possible), 8 hours of work, eating, paying bills, time spent going to and from where you need to go, and one of my closest friends tells me: “If I’m lucky, I get 45 minutes with my wife each day. And a chunk of that time is spent talking about our day, any problems and other issues.”

Peace,
Ed
 
Is a sperm a human being?
No. But a sperm + an egg is a human being. The sperm and the egg have 1/2 the DNA required to “make a human” (for lack of better terms). Once joined, the DNA is instantly united and…you have a cell with fully human DNA which, if left alone in its environment, will grow into a person, unique, not identical to either parent, that has a life of its own, only depending upon hydration, nourishment and safety…just like every human person walking on this earth right now.
 
Why is the Catholic Church against the use of contraceptives?
I guess for the same reasons we had Prohibition. We assume that all people are going to abuse a substance or a practice…just because a few become drunks and addicts…and we assume that we should make rules for everyone.

In my opinion, contraceptives are a hassle and only effective if used carefully. I’ve never had one that I liked. That doesn’t mean others didn’t have better luck with them than I did.
 
I guess for the same reasons we had Prohibition. We assume that all people are going to abuse a substance or a practice…just because a few become drunks and addicts…and we assume that we should make rules for everyone.

In my opinion, contraceptives are a hassle and only effective if used carefully. I’ve never had one that I liked. That doesn’t mean others didn’t have better luck with them than I did.
I can tell you have given this a lot of thought and have taken the time to review some of the material available to inform yourself on the issues. :rolleyes:
The Church’s position on contraception has nothing to do with whether it would be abused or not. In addition, contraceptives are generally not a hassle - taking a pill once daily is pretty easy.
Since you have listed yourself as Catholic, why not take some time to learn what the Church actually teaches and why it is taught rather than “guess” or “assume” ?
 
While the purpose of using a contraceptive is to prevent conception, that doesn’t make it bad to use one.
Grey
The reason contraception is less than ideal is, as stated previously, due to the way Catholic Christians understand the relationship between behaviour and character.

What we freely and informedly do influences the sort of person we become. There are some such actions that, over time, are considered serious and powerful enough to change our character for the worse regardless of our initial “good” intentions.
The Catholic Church teaches that contraception (when used to split off the inherent procreative potential of sexual intercourse) is one of these.
 
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