Controversial Catholic issues

[Oreoracle]

We are talking about two different things. I am talking about spiritual judgement. We can’t be the judge, Jesus is the judge. You seem to be talking about a temporal court with temporal judgement. Apples and oranges. As far as I know, nothing in Scripture forbids weighing evidence to see if man’s laws have been broken.

I’m not talking about just observing actions as evidence to use in a court of law. I am talking about interpreting the actions. If I claim that a suspect killed with malice aforethought, that is an interpretation of the act of killing. It goes beyond the mere fact of killing, and requires us to judge a person’s motives, their consent to the action, and their knowledge of its wrongfulness. In short, it requires us to judge the very conditions under which mortal sins are committed. You said we cannot establish when someone has committed a mortal sin, therefore you must disagree with the necessary conditions for first-degree murder convictions.

The two judgments you mention are inseparable in some cases because some of our charges, such as first-degree murder, require judgments that would also inform us of a person’s state of mortal sin. If criminal justice never cared about intentions for the purpose of these charges or for establishing a possible motive for a case, then perhaps you could have a judgment-free legal system. But this isn’t so.

The type of judgment He spoke against is the notion that one is somehow better than another.

I feel like “better” is a pretty vague notion. Certainly I am “better” than a murderer in the sense that I lack a negative quality which he does not; namely, being guilty for a serious moral offense. I am “better” than a murderer in the sense that, by most people’s standards, I would be more likely to be spared than the murderer if for some reason someone had to choose which of us would live in a variant of the Trolley Problem.

I suspect you will somehow compare me and the murderer to God and argue that, relative to him, we are on equal ground in some sense. And if you choose such a defense, I would assert that I mustn’t have ever judged anyone in my life. I don’t believe in God, so I don’t make claims about him, which means I don’t compare my relative worth to others by God’s standard.

 

[Prayer_Warrior]

I’ve explained the difference, you disagree; there really isn’t anything more that I can offer.

 

[Vico]

What is the truth anyways? There are Catholics, Jehovah Witnesses, Christians. I have a fairly open mind and listen to anyone’s opinion. Protestant think Catholics are not following. Muslims believe Allah is God. Even within the Catholic community, people disagree on how serious a particular sin or what should be considered a sin. “Cafeteria Catholics” pray for the intolerance by the “traditional Catholics.” “Traditional Catholics” pray for “cafeteria Catholics.” What exactly makes someone a bigot? I am even surprised. People have different definitions of what constitutes gossip. Some Christians are so against being judgmental and all for Jesus’s love. Some are more judgmental. I just do not understand. Why can’t people respect other people’s opinions without name-calling? No matter what position, I take I will be a bad person to someone. If I think homosexuality is a sin, I am narrow-minded bigot. If I do not, I am a cafeteria Catholic. If I do not agree with abortion, I am not for women’s reproductive rights, if I do, I am condoning murder. If I speak out against sin, IT IS NOT MY PLACE TO TELL OTHERS WHAT TO DO IN THEIR PERSONAL LIFE. If I do not speak out against sin, what type of friend are you to watch someone sin mortally? IF I evangelize, I am being annoying. Religion is supposed to be personal. If I don’t evangelize, then I have failed.

• What is the truth anyways?

John 14:6
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

• What exactly makes someone a bigot?

Collins Dictionary, bigot: a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race

• Why can’t people respect other people’s opinions without name-calling?

Collins dictionary: name-calling: verbal abuse, esp as a crude form of argument
They are inclined to the sins of pride, envy, and hate.

• If I do not speak out against sin, what type of friend are you to watch someone sin mortally?

Matthew 18:15-17
A Brother Who Sins.

“If your brother sins [against you], go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have won over your brother. If he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, so that ‘every fact may be established on the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ If he refuses to listen to them, tell the church. If he refuses to listen even to the church, then treat him as you would a Gentile or a tax collector.

**John 15:18-25

**The World’s Hatred.“If the world hates you, realize that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, the world would love its own; but because you do not belong to the world, and I have chosen you out of the world, the world hates you. Remember the word I spoke to you,

‘No slave is greater than his master.’
If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you. If they kept my word, they will also keep yours. And they will do all these things to you on account of my name, because they do not know the one who sent me.

If I had not come and spoken to them, they would have no sin; but as it is they have no excuse for their sin. Whoever hates me also hates my Father. If I had not done works among them that no one else ever did, they would not have sin; but as it is, they have seen and hated both me and my Father. But in order that the word written in their law might be fulfilled,‘They hated me without cause.’
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