Converting from Catholicism to Catholicism?

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I was brought up in the Latin church, would I be allowed to convert to one of the Eastern churches? Would I be allowed to receive the Blessed Sacrament at an Eastern Catholic Divine Liturgy while still in the Latin Rite?
 
Being a Latin rite Catholic, you are free to attend any Catholic church of your choice, be it Western or Eastern-Rite and receive Communion in both freely. There is absolutely no restriction regarding that.

For a formal change of Rite (I’m not sure what this would entail in practice that you couldn’t do just being a Latin-rite Catholic attending an Eastern-rite parish), there is a more complicated and bureaucratic process. It is possible, but you should consider whether you really want this or whether just attending an Eastern-Rite parish while remaining Latin would be good for you.
 
I was brought up in the Latin church, would I be allowed to convert to one of the Eastern churches? Would I be allowed to receive the Blessed Sacrament at an Eastern Catholic Divine Liturgy while still in the Latin Rite?
A Catholic may receive the Holy Mysteries/Sacraments of Confession, Holy Eucharist, and Holy Unction in any of our 23 Catholic Churches. As a member of the Latin Church you can fulfill your “Sunday Obligation” in any Mass or Divine Liturgy. 🙂

To find an Eastern Catholic or an Oriental Catholic parish check in Find-A-Parish → By Location/
 
I was brought up in the Latin church, would I be allowed to convert to one of the Eastern churches? Would I be allowed to receive the Blessed Sacrament at an Eastern Catholic Divine Liturgy while still in the Latin Rite?
Why would you like to “convert” to an Eastern Church? :confused:

I have the impression that you are quite confused by the whole concept of Eastern Churches. You should start reading “Orientale Lumen” by Blessed Pope JPII. After that you can start reading more about the Eastern Catholic Churches and you will see that most of their theology is consistent with the Eastern Orthodox Churches but the big difference is that they are Catholics thus in full communion with Rome. You can find some interesting introductory books on Eastern Catholicism at Theobooks. There is also more material online like at Eastern Christian Media.
 
For a formal change of Rite (I’m not sure what this would entail in practice that you couldn’t do just being a Latin-rite Catholic attending an Eastern-rite parish), there is a more complicated and bureaucratic process.
Changing one’s enrollment from the Latin Catholic Church sui iuris to an Eastern Church sui iuris involves a letter recommending such a change from the priest in the Church which one is transferring in to, and then a letter from one’s Latin Bishop releasing one from the Latin Church and from the appropriate hierarch accepting one. Then the priest and the one who petitioned sign a document which confirms one is making this choice, the signature is witnessed, it’s recorded in the appropriate places and that’s it. Such a change is the option of any Catholic who so desires the change, but of course is not required of the laity in order to actively live in an Eastern Church. The change from East to West involves another level, Rome, because such a move is much discouraged.
 
Changing one’s enrollment from the Latin Catholic Church sui iuris to an Eastern Church sui iuris involves a letter recommending such a change from the priest in the Church which one is transferring in to, and then a letter from one’s Latin Bishop releasing one from the Latin Church and from the appropriate hierarch accepting one. Then the priest and the one who petitioned sign a document which confirms one is making this choice, the signature is witnessed, it’s recorded in the appropriate places and that’s it. Such a change is the option of any Catholic who so desires the change, but of course is not required of the laity in order to actively live in an Eastern Church. The change from East to West involves another level, Rome, because such a move is much discouraged.
Why is such a move discouraged?
 
I was brought up in the Latin church, would I be allowed to convert to one of the Eastern churches? Would I be allowed to receive the Blessed Sacrament at an Eastern Catholic Divine Liturgy while still in the Latin Rite?
  1. You convert to another faith, another religion. You do not convert to another Rite in the same Catholic Church.
  2. To “switch Rites,” so to speak, you need to file for a canonical transfer wherein your canonical enrollment is switched from being Latin Rite to the Rite and sui juris Church you are transferring to. You cannot just apply, you would need to spend time with the other “rite” first and then after about two years you would need to petition the Bishops of the diocese you are leaving and the eparchy you are transferring to.
  3. You can receive the Eucharist and have your Confessions heard at any Catholic Church, regardless of Rite. You also fulfill your Sunday Obligation at any Eucharistic Liturgy of any Catholic Rite.
 
Actually, it can be a conversion of sorts.
I thought that conversion in English simply refers to adoption of a religion, changes in theology does not imply a change in religion. However, if you refer to the Latin origin of the word “convertere” (to change) then you are quite correct. We could even use the word metanoia as used in its original Greek root “metanoiein” (to change one’s mind).

Anyway my point was that it is quite difficult to change to something that you do not know too much about it.
 
Why would you like to “convert” to an Eastern Church? :confused:

I have the impression that you are quite confused by the whole concept of Eastern Churches. You should start reading “Orientale Lumen” by Blessed Pope JPII. After that you can start reading more about the Eastern Catholic Churches and you will see that most of their theology is consistent with the Eastern Orthodox Churches but the big difference is that they are Catholics thus in full communion with Rome. You can find some interesting introductory books on Eastern Catholicism at Theobooks. There is also more material online like at Eastern Christian Media.
I actually like orthodox Christianity more than modern Christianity. The Eastern CATHOLIC churches actually teach the same thing as the rest of the Church. The Eastern churches look like a more sacred place to be than the Latin church.
 
I actually like orthodox Christianity more than modern Christianity. The Eastern CATHOLIC churches actually teach the same thing as the rest of the Church. The Eastern churches look like a more sacred place to be than the Latin church.
What do you mean with orthodox Christianity vs. modern Christianity? :confused:

When you said that the Eastern churches look more like a sacred place to be than the Latin church are you referring to buildings or to the sui juris Churces?:confused:

What really confuses me is that you are not making any statement about something specific.I do not understand if you are discussing objective differences or how you feel about your own idea of Eastern vs. Latin or Orthodox vs. Catholic. I am not saying that discussing how you feel is wrong, I just do not understand what your thinking is about.
 
What do you mean with orthodox Christianity vs. modern Christianity? :confused:

When you said that the Eastern churches look more like a sacred place to be than the Latin church are you referring to buildings or to the sui juris Churces?:confused:

What really confuses me is that you are not making any statement about something specific.I do not understand if you are discussing objective differences or how you feel about your own idea of Eastern vs. Latin or Orthodox vs. Catholic. I am not saying that discussing how you feel is wrong, I just do not understand what your thinking is about.
“orthodox” literally means right or correct teaching. For most people that means teachings from the first millennium of the Church. The East does indeed do a better job of holding to original teachings and traditions than the West.
 
Why is such a move discouraged?
I think it is because the number of Latin Catholics is so much greater than the cumulative number of Eastern Catholics. If their numbers were further depleted by transferring to the Latin rite, it would reduce the influence of Eastern understanding.
 
I think it is because the number of Latin Catholics is so much greater than the cumulative number of Eastern Catholics. If their numbers were further depleted by transferring to the Latin rite, it would reduce the influence of Eastern understanding.
This is not a problem in their home countries, but in places like North America it is indeed a problem. The Pope wants them co keep their canonical membership so that even if they do not have a parish where they migrate to, hopefully in the future there will be one and they can return to their own Church.

By the way, even though the canonical process is difficult, many Eastern Catholics just attend Roman Catholic parishes anyway and life the Western spirituality without applying for any formal transfer.
 
“orthodox” literally means right or correct teaching. For most people that means teachings from the first millennium of the Church. The East does indeed do a better job of holding to original teachings and traditions than the West.
I understand what you say, and I do not fully buy into it. Teachings are one thing and traditions are another. Maybe I am too much of an “Easternized” Latin to believe that some of the differences are real, or maybe to me there is a big difference between “Western” and “Latin”. However, whether we agree or not I still do not know what the O,P. is really talking about.
 
I actually like orthodox Christianity more than modern Christianity. The Eastern CATHOLIC churches actually teach the same thing as the rest of the Church. The Eastern churches look like a more sacred place to be than the Latin church.
Possibly I don’t understand the problem, if there is a problem.

Any Catholic, Latin or whatever, is always free to attend and receive the sacraments in any Eastern Catholic Church. It’s no different from attending a Latin parish when you’re the member of another Latin parish.

But when it comes to officially becoming a member of an Eastern parish, you are, I believe, expected to have the permission of the pastors of both the parish you are going to become a member of, and of the Latin parish of which you would otherwise be a member.

But you have to do that to leave one Latin parish to become, officially, a member of another, and that’s fairly easy to do.

Now, it’s my understanding (and perhaps mistaken) that it isn’t quite as easy to go from a Latin parish to an Eastern Catholic parish as an official thing, though I don’t think you would ever be unwelcome in one. I think the pastor of the Eastern Catholic parish would want to be reasonably assured you really have some knowledge and appreciation of the Eastern church; that you aren’t just on some liturgical lark. I think it’s even more difficult, if you’re a Latin Catholic to become a seminarian in an Eastern Church; perhaps vice versa as well.

I can sympathize with your feeling that the Eastern Churches can be/are more conducive to a particular KIND of worship than are at least some parishes in the Latin Church. More mystical, perhaps. Perhaps more relfective. More given to ornateness in giving glory to God. Absolutely mesmerizing music. I find a LOT of attractiveness in the Eastern Catholic Churches myself.

However, culture is something that likely has a deeper hold on us than we often think it does. As opposed to Greek traditions, Roman ones were always rather spare. Much more simple and less adorned. Romans were a practical people; Greeks perhaps more imaginative; perhaps more dreamy and mystical. Even Latin Church vestments are simply the clothing Romans wore; some slightly adorned, some not at all. Eastern vestments are ornate almost beyond belief. Latin art is realistic, for the most part. Eastern art is idealized and sort of psychologically oriented.

In the West, it’s hard to realize how “Romanized” we really are. Our laws, our lettering, a good half of many of our languages, our building styles, the way we lay out cities, even our absolute insistence on utilities and straight highways. Our nearly pervasive emphasis on practicality. Even some of the things people like me don’t especially like; the unadorned and “modernistic” church buildings. Even that is a reach for practicality; misguided oftentimes in my view, but that’s what it is. We’re profoundly Romanized; probably in ways we don’t even know.

So, while one (including myself) can be fascinated by the Eastern traditions, appreciate them, even grow to live in them and love them, one must ask oneself whether one is going against one’s own deeply inculturated grain to make a full switch. Can Latins really, fully, be Eastern, and for a lifetime? I don’t know. Probably many can. Probably many cannot.

This might seem silly, but if one, say, attends an Easter Liturgy in an Eastern Church, yet feels more elevated by hearing a truly great Latin choir sing something written by Mozart, then one really needs to consider whether his attraction to the Eastern tradition is more aesthetic than anything else.
 
I think it is because the number of Latin Catholics is so much greater than the cumulative number of Eastern Catholics. If their numbers were further depleted by transferring to the Latin rite, it would reduce the influence of Eastern understanding.
Sorry. I thought 5loaves was saying that for latins to enter the eastern rite that this move is discouraged and not the other way around.
 
I understand what you say, and I do not fully buy into it. Teachings are one thing and traditions are another. Maybe I am too much of an “Easternized” Latin to believe that some of the differences are real, or maybe to me there is a big difference between “Western” and “Latin”. However, whether we agree or not I still do not know what the O,P. is really talking about.
Well, our course the faith is the same. But see how many things the Latin Church has dogmatized in recent centuries? And its like they introduced new beliefs, but the definitions they introduced are fairly new. Sometimes its good because it makes things relevant, sometimes it just confuses people. Even the form of Mass has undergone more recent changes, Trent included. The Divine Liturgy comes from the previous millennium.
 
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