Converts, are you more traditional?

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I’m in RCIA now and really I didn’t know anything about the Catholic church until summer this year. Lately on the boards and on the radio they have been discussing liturgical reforms in the Mass. I find this super exciting. Now, I’ve never been to a traditional Mass in Latin (there’s one maybe two churches close that offer it where I live) but I secretly wish every parish would offer at least one service in Latin because I would love to go.

Now to my question, I definitely have leanings toward going a more traditional route. I was wondering if any other converts had the same feelings? Like, maybe do you think more converts choose to go a more hardcore traditional path than the norm of what’s available now? (at least in the US, I can’t speak for other countries)
 
My opinion is that it is a personal decision, maybe based on which faith community a person is coming from.

I came from an Anglo Catholic parish and in my case I am very traditional. Probably more so than cradle Catholics who have never experienced many of the traditions pre Vatican II. Although I find that many younger Catholics seem to be leaning towards a more traditional view. Many are going to the Traditional Latin Mass.

I am very lucky so far in that I found a very traditional parish. They offer the TLM on Sundays and the OF Mass is very reverent.

The changes in the Mass will be a great change I think. I know some feel how can people adapt to the changes, well if they could go from the Latin Mass to the OF without a problem learning it I am sure the transition will not be too difficult at all.

Welcome to Christ’s Church. I am sure that it is exciting to come into the Church. There is so much within the Catholic Church that brings you closer to the Lord.

Yours in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary

Bernadette
 
Welcome to the Church! I’m not an official convert yet, but I will be next year. 🙂

I go to a very traditional Church. They have very reverent Masses in the Ordinary Form, Eucharistic Adoration, Rosary recitations, you name it. The Church is gorgeous, too. I’m very blessed to be in a location where I have a Church that’s so mindful of respectful practices.
 
I’m in RCIA now and really I didn’t know anything about the Catholic church until summer this year. Lately on the boards and on the radio they have been discussing liturgical reforms in the Mass. I find this super exciting. Now, I’ve never been to a traditional Mass in Latin (there’s one maybe two churches close that offer it where I live) but I secretly wish every parish would offer at least one service in Latin because I would love to go.

Now to my question, I definitely have leanings toward going a more traditional route. I was wondering if any other converts had the same feelings? Like, maybe do you think more converts choose to go a more hardcore traditional path than the norm of what’s available now? (at least in the US, I can’t speak for other countries)
I’m in Britain, I was a Methodist (went to a Methodist Church) but then I went to a Roman Catholic Church and I have to say that I love the tradition in it. No other church (protestant) can compare. Even another catholic church that didn’t have the traditions wouldn’t be worth visiting in my opinion. :cool:
 
There does seem to be a tendency for converts to be attracted to traditionalism, same goes for younger Catholics like me (17 here). For converts I suppose it’s because most of you are converting from Protestant traditions and want a Mass that really feels Catholic, while for us young whippersnappers I think it’s because we’re immersed in modern culture and can see how dangerous it is, so we want to react against it by encouraging traditional Catholic practices.

Naturally though it’s going to vary from person to person. I’m not trying to paint you all with one stroke (ex: as mentioned, a lot of Catholic converts are high-church Anglicans who just felt more at home with the traditional mass), just making general observations.
 
There does seem to be a tendency for converts to be attracted to traditionalism, same goes for younger Catholics like me (17 here). For converts I suppose it’s because most of you are converting from Protestant traditions and want a Mass that really feels Catholic, while for us young whippersnappers I think it’s because we’re immersed in modern culture and can see how dangerous it is, so we want to react against it by encouraging traditional Catholic practices.

Naturally though it’s going to vary from person to person. I’m not trying to paint you all with one stroke (ex: as mentioned, a lot of Catholic converts are high-church Anglicans who just felt more at home with the traditional mass), just making general observations.
The culture shock of going into a catholic church for the first time really took me by surprise and made me cringe (especially all the statues), but now it is what I love most! 😃
 
Does the opinion of a revert count??

As one who was born in 1955 (pre-vat II) and saw the changes come in when I was in grade school, I find I am drawn more toward the Traditional now that I have returned. While I am content with the OF at my current parish, I prefer to attend the EF when I can. I too hope for a wider implementation of the EF in the future.

Overall though I really think that it is going to depend on how Christ Draws the individual, and to a lesser extent, on the faith community one is coming from. For instance, a person who is more evangelically oriented might not be drawn toward the contemplative aspects of the Latin mass, Benediction, etc. They might be more comfortable in a more charismatic parish.

Finally I think that in many cases, those who either convert or revert to The Church, are more interested in exploring and learning as much as possible about the faith and a desire to partake of as much as possible. This geneally will lead one into a greater appreciation for, and practice of, the rich and varied liturgies and spiritualities contained within the Church.

Peace
James
 
I’m in the conversion process right now also. What happened to me is that the person who opened my eyes to the beauty of the faith is a very traditional catholic man and I started going to his church. At first, I had absolutely no idea that all masses weren’t done that way! I began to learn a little about the differences in OF vs. EF (from reading this board) and just to see for myself, I went to a Novus Ordo mass last sunday. I was blown away at what I saw. I really, really was. Had the NO mass been my first experience, I don’t know that I would have been captivated at all. I can’t say for sure. I do know that TLM is where it’s at, for ME.
 
I just had to respond.

I’m a convert to the faith from ELCIC Lutheranism, as opposed to one of the offshoots (and there are many). I was born and grew up Lutheran. My mom’s a Lutheran minister, enough said. I came into the faith shortly after graduating from university (or as you Americans put it, college) into a pretty liberal university parish. The priest/chaplain was pretty liberal, although very liturgical (don’t quite get that). Very nice priest, but, let’s just say he had some views on the unorthodox side, but at least he didn’t believe that women should be priests (he was adamant about that). Even then, I definitely had leanings to the traditional side of Catholicism (rosary and all that). When I moved out here I was pretty shocked as to the conservativeness of parish life and the priesthood here, but it was a very welcome change from all the liberalness of back home. The parish I go to is pretty conservative, lots of traditional practices like the Rosary, Adoration, and it’s not too out of the ordinary to see a few women at Masses wear head-coverings, myself included. The converts I’ve seen, especially the younger ones, tend to be more traditional, for sure. I haven’t gotten to the point where I need to go to the EF (too far out of the way for me, considering where I live), but I have priest-friends back home that are definitely traditional (one’s even an Opus Dei priest and does the EF). My family, on the other hand, is pretty liberal. Even my sister who’s married and has a son and also a convert; they’re pretty liberal too. I just don’t get it a lot of times, why don’t Catholics realize just how much history and Tradition they have. 🤷

Chantal
 
My limited contribution to the question is from the perspective of a former Calvinist who became a Catholic convert after visiting a Benedictine monastery and who became an oblate and then a Catholic.

As you may know, Catholic Benedictine monasteries often have oblates who are not Catholic — that fact and other Benedictine practices help give the Benedictines their reputation for ecumenism and outreach to the wider Christian world.

Our oblate classes at the monastery have about 25% Catholic converts and about 5% non-Catholics.

With that background, it might be assumed that the Benedictine oblate outreach to the wider Christian world of Baptists, Methodists, etc. would have a “watered-down” version of Catholic practices to “appeal to” and “be relevant” to non-Catholics. “Gotta speak their language.”

And it might also be assumed that the non-Catholics who are drawn to the Benedictines and the Catholic Church are on the margins and fringes of their particular Protestant denominations — the people who might not be steeped in the Bible study and Sola scriptura (“by scripture alone”).

But in my experience with one Catholic Benedictine monastery — both such assumptions are incorrect.

First, the monastery tends to be traditional even though its Masses are in English and the monastery is getting more traditional in its Benedictine practices of the daily divine office (example of the divine office – liturgy of the hours – for those who have never heard of the term).

Second, the non-Catholics who become oblates and those who go on to become Catholic converts tend to have years of Bible study and were active and deeply committed to their Protestant denominations.

These converts sought MORE from their life as a Christian, not less. They feel the Bible truth they learned well must surely lead to a fuller life in God’s Church, not a lesser one. That leads them to the deep spirituality of the ancient Benedictine practices at the monastery and then, into the Catholic Church as they learn of its rich and beautiful heritage.

So, based on the Catholic converts I know, the converts tend to be more traditional than the typical Catholic — the Catholic convert oblates tend to like the Latin mass, like the direction of Pope Benedict XVI, and like the reverence of tradition although there is also a good percentage who do like Mass in English while liking the beauty of traditional practices.

The one thing all these converts agree on is the desire for deep spirituality in the fullness of the Catholic Church. That’s what tends to make them more traditional.

And congratulations on your RCIA and coming home to Christ’s one true Church! You are on the right track.
 
My wife, a cradle Catholic, and I were married in 1966 in the church. At the time I was a “heathen”. But I had been interested in the Cathloc church for quite a while. I saw how the Mass had been and watched it change. By 1970 I could stand it no more and became Catholic. Then the REAL changes hit. I struggled with it until 1974 or so when I found a small church that still did the old Rite. So for the next several years we attended the Tridentine Mass. Then in 1980 our old priest was worried that his flock would have no priest if he died so he affiliated with an Archbishop named Marcel Lefevbre. The Archbishop came to our parish and confirmed about 150 people and gave First Communion to about as many.

Well that lasted until 1988 when of course, Pope JP2 did the excommunication thingy. So I came back to the NO church. I have struggled with this decision ever since. But three years ago we formed a group and began to petition for the TLM.which we have finally received. Its a small step but I feel like I have a cause to dedicate my life to now.

So now we are heavily involved in trying to get more TLMs in the state.

The Novus Ordo was never an anchor point in my life. It has always been the old Mass.
 
These converts sought MORE from their life as a Christian, not less.

The one thing all these converts agree on is the desire for deep spirituality in the fullness of the Catholic Church. That’s what tends to make them more traditional.

And congratulations on your RCIA and coming home to Christ’s one true Church! You are on the right track.
I think you’ve probably hit the nail on the head for me there! I DO want more for my life as a Christian. That’s what’s really started me this direction anyway, I was not brought up in a very “active” church, and really I think my Mom just took us so we could get some kind of “churching”… she doesn’t really go that much anymore now that most of her kids have moved out. So I was very poorly brought up as a Christian, and my original thoughts when I got a spiritual kick in the pants to get back in church was “well…I need discipline, I need strict rules if I’m going to be able to stick with being a good Christian, and hey…those Catholics are pretty strict” 😃 Of course after learning what it’s all about I know there’s more to it than that and I’m in the place I was meant to be. So thanks for your insight! 👍
 
I’m in RCIA now and really I didn’t know anything about the Catholic church until summer this year. Lately on the boards and on the radio they have been discussing liturgical reforms in the Mass. I find this super exciting. Now, I’ve never been to a traditional Mass in Latin (there’s one maybe two churches close that offer it where I live) but I secretly wish every parish would offer at least one service in Latin because I would love to go.

Now to my question, I definitely have leanings toward going a more traditional route. I was wondering if any other converts had the same feelings? Like, maybe do you think more converts choose to go a more hardcore traditional path than the norm of what’s available now? (at least in the US, I can’t speak for other countries)
I can say as a convert and now a twice over revert that I have always felt a pull to the traditional
 
Im of the younger generation of Catholics, and a revert to boot, and im pulled to the traditional, so the trend holds for me as well.🙂
 
I’m a convert too, and yes I’d say I’m more on the traditional side too… 🙂
 
I am a convert (was received into the Church Easter '08) and I was attracted to traditionalism right from the start. And my husband’s RCIA class had two other people besides himself who wound up joining the traditional parish.
 
I’d have to say yes to the more traditional theme. For even though I’m going through RCIA and have a long way to go I do think its good to have strong roots. In my case I’m a little different for I follow the Maronite tradition. When I say I’d like to go back to the traditions I really do mean the traditions before the mass Latinization that occurred within my beloved eastern church. I understand why it happened. They made the best decisions they could to stay within Romes good graces and as such something(s) unique to the Maronites were lost. For instance the way one signs the cross is left to right in the Roman Catholic tradition but right to left in the maronite tradition. Its a small difference but believe me when I say i’ve been corrected ALOT by my beloved RC friend. She thinks I’m doing it wrong when reality I’m just following a Tradition different from hers and she brought me to my church. I owe her a debt I can never repay. So, when she’s with me I do it her way. This is how the Latinizations started.

Sorry I got side tracked I do like the more Traditional aspects of my Maronite Catholic church and thus; I feel more Traditional. I feel that many Roman Catholics that leave the church would probably still remain in it if they knew about the other Catholic churches. They could check them out and probably remain a faithful Catholic though they may change their suri irius (I think thats how you say it). Anyway thats just my 2 cents.
 
Of course posting this thread in the Traditional Catholicism forum means it’s likely most folks posting are going to agree. I wonder if the results might be different if this same question were asked on one of the other forums, such as liturgy.

Just a thought.

Peace
James
 
How would I do that? Do I just start a new one with the same question? I’m not sure how to link another post in… :confused:
 
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