Converts from Islam: Questions for Muslims

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Some Questions:

What is your view on people who convert from Islam to Christianity.
What is your view of Sharia Law?
 
Hello

as a Muslim , peopel who have converted to Christianity from Islam has made a wrong move.

Sharia Law is set of rules for Muslims in which non muslim nearly know nothing about except the section of Punishments.

Peace
 
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meedo:
Hello

as a Muslim , peopel who have converted to Christianity from Islam has made a wrong move.

Sharia Law is set of rules for Muslims in which non muslim nearly know nothing about except the section of Punishments.

Peace
Ok but does Islam approve of violence against converts from Islam to Christianity? I was a Godfather to a convert from Iran.

Do you think Sharia Law is acceptable? In England or America. Would you like to see it?
 
I would like to see the sharia law applied in Muslim countries Only . If any muslims wish to live in the west they should abide by the laws of the west .

Unless it discriminates against them ofcouirse then that wouldnt be right .

As for the convert in Iran . If he would convert and incite hatred in Iran and be allied with countries that want harm to it then i would think he should be punished by death as sharia and as a traitor . But Muslims should never take law in their own hands. That means that this isnt a punishment that any body just do. If the government doesnt decide it should do that then its over. Or else it would be chaious.

If he would convert and doesn’t incite for hatred then he should be free to live peacefully.

Peace

Meedo
 
Non Muslims usually know nothing of sharia law except Punishments.

So in the light of this fact , i would understand your question. But as someone who is a muslim , i like sharia law and i think its very much near secular law.

Meedo
 
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meedo:
Hello

as a Muslim , peopel who have converted to Christianity from Islam has made a wrong move.

Sharia Law is set of rules for Muslims in which non muslim nearly know nothing about except the section of Punishments.

Peace
As a Catholic, I would say the same thing in reverse; that any Christian who becomes a Muslim has definitely made a big mistake!
 
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Booklover:
As a Catholic, I would say the same thing in reverse; that any Christian who becomes a Muslim has definitely made a big mistake!
as someone who you’d consider to have definitely made a big mistake, i can honestly and gladly say that i’m very glad 😃 i made that “big mistake” and embraced the religion my Lord and Creator sent His prophets and messengers with.
 
John of Woking:
Ok but does Islam approve of violence against converts from Islam to Christianity? I was a Godfather to a convert from Iran.

Do you think Sharia Law is acceptable? In England or America. Would you like to see it?
As someone who had to leave Cuba to escape Communism, I certainly wouldn’t like to see that happen here or in England or anywhere else. It smacks too much of totalitarianism and loss of freedom!
 
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r.gonzales:
as someone who you’d consider to have definitely made a big mistake, i can honestly and gladly say that i’m very glad 😃 i made that “big mistake” and embraced the religion my Lord and Creator sent His prophets and messengers with.
Good! I’m glad you’re happy in your choice and hope you’ll never regret it, but I beg to differ. I do not and never will accept Mohammed as a real prophet, or the Qur’an as the word of God, or accept that Islam is the religion that God intended for all mankind!
 
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meedo:
I would like to see the sharia law applied in Muslim countries Only . If any muslims wish to live in the west they should abide by the laws of the west .

Unless it discriminates against them ofcouirse then that wouldnt be right .

As for the convert in Iran . If he would convert and incite hatred in Iran and be allied with countries that want harm to it then i would think he should be punished by death as sharia and as a traitor . But Muslims should never take law in their own hands. That means that this isnt a punishment that any body just do. If the government doesnt decide it should do that then its over. Or else it would be chaious.

If he would convert and doesn’t incite for hatred then he should be free to live peacefully.

Peace

Meedo
This notion that being a Christian is somehow being allied to the ‘West’ is totally incomprehensible. I could and do hate the secular ethics of the west and be a proud Saudi/Iranian/North Sudanese citizen but If I convert from Islam to the Gospel of Christ and the Catholic Faith my life is over and I would be tortured to death. If a Christian converts to Islam in the West however he is allowed freedom and respect. The fact is that the Jew and the Christian are hated by Islam and this makes me very uncomfortable especially being a Londoner
 
well it isnt about bieng hated by islam really . The problem is that here we in the middle east have had bad experiences Fresh from colonialism .This experience is equated in our mind with evangelism and christianity to an extent . May be you wouldnt feel it but we do . Same thing with Jews. We took Jews in Morroco when the inquisition happened and the Catholic expuled us both Jews and muslims. If we really hatred them why did we take them in ? ever asked yourself that ?

You an disagree with Islam as a belief and thats your choice. But if you review history through an unbiased lesne you will find that it was muslims who always were the most tolerant .

Peace
 
Apparently there is a movement in Canada to have Canadian Muslims live under Shar’ia Law. See this article.

If this is the case, will Canadian Muslims who convert to Christianity be subject to penalties under Shar’ia law or will the fact of their conversion place them back under Canadian law?
 
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JimG:
Apparently there is a movement in Canada to have Canadian Muslims live under Shar’ia Law. See this article.

If this is the case, will Canadian Muslims who convert to Christianity be subject to penalties under Shar’ia law or will the fact of their conversion place them back under Canadian law?
In my province, Quebec, the movement has been stopped. I don’t know to much about it and it his true in my case that I am only aware of the sanctions it imposes.

It his being stopped here on account mostly of the treatment of women compared to our secular standards.
 
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JimG:
Apparently there is a movement in Canada to have Canadian Muslims live under Shar’ia Law. See this article.

If this is the case, will Canadian Muslims who convert to Christianity be subject to penalties under Shar’ia law or will the fact of their conversion place them back under Canadian law?
read the article again.
  1. the laws that they’ll be ruling by are those pertaining to civil cases(i.e., divorce, personal disputes, etc.).
  2. the muslim council judging over the case only delivers the ruling. the government court enforces it. the court does not have to enforce it if they don’t see it as being a fit judgement. stoning and executions will not be carried out as there is no capital punishment in canada.
also, if you do a search on this issue, i’m sure you’ll find that muslims don’t have to go to these muslim councils to get their cases settled. it’s being considered as an option for those muslims who don’t want to take their cases to the regular courts.
 
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meedo:
Non Muslims usually know nothing of sharia law except Punishments.

So in the light of this fact , i would understand your question. But as someone who is a muslim , i like sharia law and i think its very much near secular law.

Meedo
😃 😃 😃

Meedo is a muslim male.

Ask a western muslim female if she wants to live under sharia?

My fiance who still remains muslim, essentially, but who attends mass with me, says she would never want to go back to living with sharia.

Not because she hates it, but because it is simply inconvenient to her, no more, no less…
 
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hawk:
Meedo is a muslim male.

Ask a western muslim female if she wants to live under sharia?
my wife is a muslim, born and raised in london, england, which makes her a western muslim female. if you were to ask her if she wants to live under the sharee’ah of islam, she’d tell you yes. why? because it is Allah’s legislation.

and i know many, many other western muslim females, born and raised in the west who would love to make hijrah to a muslim country where the sharee’ah is implemented.
 
From an Indian newspaper-

PTI PRINT EMAIL
POLL-DARUL
Muslim women must contest elections under veil: Darul Uloom
MUZAFFARNAGAR/NEW DELHI, AUG 17 (PTI)
In yet another controversial fatwa, Islamic seminary Darul Uloom has ruled that Muslim women should not contest elections and if they have to do they must do it under veil, evoking sharp reactions from political parties.

“Muslim women are not allowed to appear before men without a veil and under the Islamic law ‘pardanashin’ women are only allowed to contest elections,” the Darool Uloom of Deoband said in the edict issued yesterday.

It said those who are contesting panchayat elections must cover their faces.

Various political parties have reacted sharply to the edict with Congress leader and Law Minister H R Bharadwaj saying edicts coming from the religious groups have no significance under the constitution and it is upto the people whether they want to abide by them or not.

Congress MP Rashid Alvi said if Muslim women do not contest elections entire community will lag behind. They have to progeress if the country has to progress.

CPI(M) leader Sitaram Yechury condemned it by saying the Constitution has given women equal rights as their male counterpart and we will not let this right be infringed.

Calling the edict wrong, BJP Vice President Venkaiah Naidu said women should get equal rights in every sphere. When the world is progressing, this kind of edict is wrong.

The fatwa has come at a time when hundreds of Muslim women are contesting panchayat elections in Uttar Pradesh and 33 per cent seats have been reserved for women in the local bodies.
 
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meedo:
well it isnt about bieng hated by islam really . The problem is that here we in the middle east have had bad experiences Fresh from colonialism .This experience is equated in our mind with evangelism and christianity to an extent . May be you wouldnt feel it but we do . Same thing with Jews. We took Jews in Morroco when the inquisition happened and the Catholic expuled us both Jews and muslims. If we really hatred them why did we take them in ? ever asked yourself that ?

You an disagree with Islam as a belief and thats your choice. But if you review history through an unbiased lesne you will find that it was muslims who always were the most tolerant .

Peace
Tolerant? Look at Iraq: 600,000 Christians excluded from the forthcoming constitution. Djimmah status is accorded them and they are being driven out. Also it was state courts which carried out the Inquisition and not ecclesiastical courts.
 
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